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cockcraver
09-30-2007, 02:22 PM
The fact is he's been responsible for a huge amount of unesseccary deaths and hasnt acheived much in the progress....Do you think he has been successful as a presedent or not?????

Kriss
09-30-2007, 07:40 PM
Interesting film documenting the links between The Bush family and the Nazi party in germany.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8795795223394289910&q=bush+family+nazi&total=262&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

Prescott bush, father of george h.w. bush and grandfather of george "w" bush, was arrested in 1942 for laundering $3 million of Nazi money , looted from europe. Years later the bank was dissolved and prescott got his money back, this was the start of the bush family fortune.

George "w" bush and john kerry are 9th cousins.
papa geoRge H.W. bush (the rose) and his wife barbera bush are 9th cousins
barbara bush is rumoured to be the illigitimate daughter of satanist Alistair Crowley
The bush family are related to the British winsdor family

Why do you think the hiltler bloodline is obscured thru history?
I can trace my family 250 years thru birth and marrage certificates in england so why is so little known about the ancestors (AND descendants) of such a powerful figure in history?

Hitler was a closet homosexual, let's be honest, the nazi party was about the gayest party in history, all that 'young boys in lederhosen' stuff.
Both George bushes are closet homosexuals.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=336003#336003

The nazi party in germany was originally financed by the THULE society , the german predecessor of the SKULL and BONES society of YALE of which "w" bush and john kerry are both members, as was papa george bush.

In 1933 hitler burnt the reichstag, his OWN house of congress so that he could introduce restrictions in the name of 'national security', then he made ID papers a requirement, then the hunted down the so-called "communists" (any enemy of the nazi party), Then he took voting rights off jews, little by little he created the police state thru propaganda and fear, made the germans paranoid of thier neighbours and the police.

Bush has done and is doing similar things in america, the faked attacks of 911, current crackdown on civil liberties and proection offered to openly racist police who can tase, beat and kill with impunity.

Hilter was a puppet, Bush is a puppet (But H.W. is a lot higher up in the society). They are both instruments of the same puppeteer.

Why are FEMA building Hundreds of empty prison camps all with RAILROAD access? Why is AMTRACK buying hundreds of 'prison rail cars'
with shackles?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=277826260716604258&q=fema+camp&total=104&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

First they will try to provoke martial law thru the financial crisis/ collapse of the dollar, then the 'terrorists' (remember, since the patriot act even using illegal drugs can be called an "act of terror") will be arrested.
Then they will take the arabs, muslims, mexicans and then the jews.
THERE IS A CONSPIRACY AND IT IS A RACIST WHITE CONSPIRACY.

The "zionist" conspiracy is a lie promoted by propaganda professionals to provoke a war between arab and jewish people. The same people run AL quaida. Remember, DIVIDE AND RULE is thier aim. The people who claim to be zionist jews are descended from Kazars, a nation who CONVERTED to Judaism 900 years ago, these people are not descendants of the israelites.

WE ARE RULED BY THE DESCENDANTS OF BABYLONIAN ROYAL FAMILIES

In 2003 ROBIN COOK quit his job in the British government in disgust over the illegal iraq war. Cook described Al-Qaida as a product of a western miscalculation, in a 2005 newspaper column:

"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

Robin Cook was killed weeks later in suspicious circumstances, The government said it was heart failure but paramedics who attended the scene reported that he looked like he deid of a broken neck.

Rogers
09-30-2007, 08:22 PM
I don't think Bush is a Hitler. For one thing, Hitler was a powerful speaker, and Bush is not. The main problem with BushInc. is the Inc. part. It's all about money and cronyism. I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine. Bush is an oilman and has served his kind well, it's that simple! America is the New Roman Empire, and Iraq is just another foreign war for loot. Idealogy has nothing to do it. The invasion of Iraq was on the cards the day Bush was first elected.

Occam's razor
"All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor

trish
09-30-2007, 10:05 PM
Right on Rogers. That pretty well sums it up. But given the choice...

a. Modern Hitler
b. Good Honest American

I choose (a). He's certainly not good and he's not within a kiloparsec of honest. He has invaded two countries and threatens a third. Hundreds of thousands have lost their lives to his greed and he remains unmoved. He's a little tiny Hitler. He's evil without vision.

tsmandy
09-30-2007, 10:25 PM
Bush is certainly no Adolf Hitler, but that doesn't lessen the damage he has done to this planet and the evil perpetrated on the people that live on it. All American presidents have perpetrated acts of great evil to protect their way of life and the great opulence of the wealthy, that is what those with power do. Bush is just an asshole so people hate him much more than say Bill Clinton, even if Bill Clinton's administration openly claimed responsibility for the deaths of half a million children under the age of 5 due to sanctions in Iraq.

Point being, governments tend to act on behalf of those with the power to influence them, which in the US remains the super-rich and a small coterie of millionaires who benefit tremendously from so much death and destruction.

Kriss
09-30-2007, 11:39 PM
More Info on prescott bush and the Nazi party.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/240707fascistcoup.htm

cockcraver
10-01-2007, 12:59 AM
Kriss said:
Cook described Al-Qaida as a product of a western miscalculation, in a 2005 newspaper column

very true

rogers said:
Bush is an oilman and has served his kind well, it's that simple! America is the New Roman Empire, and Iraq is just another foreign war for loot.

i think thats the wrong attitude to have considering its at the expense of others. but uve hit the nail on the head by saying usa is the new roman empire and i think bush is nero reincarnated!

hippifried
10-02-2007, 11:45 AM
Occam's razor
"All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one"

Hmmmm... Looks like the President put a big hole in that theory. The simpler he gets, the more complicated & fucked up it is for everybody else.

Rogers
10-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Occam's razor
"All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one"

Hmmmm... Looks like the President put a big hole in that theory. The simpler he gets, the more complicated & fucked up it is for everybody else.
You're confusing cause with effect, hippifried. The simplest actions taken for the simplest of reasons can have complex effects; read "Chaos Theory". That being said, Occam's razor IS flawed like virtually every theory under the sun. That's because theories are HUMAN constructs.

InHouston
10-06-2007, 06:16 PM
Right on Rogers. That pretty well sums it up. But given the choice...

a. Modern Hitler
b. Good Honest American

I choose (a). He's certainly not good and he's not within a kiloparsec of honest. He has invaded two countries and threatens a third. Hundreds of thousands have lost their lives to his greed and he remains unmoved. He's a little tiny Hitler. He's evil without vision.

Wuss.

Rogers
10-06-2007, 10:57 PM
Right on Rogers. That pretty well sums it up. But given the choice...

a. Modern Hitler
b. Good Honest American

I choose (a). He's certainly not good and he's not within a kiloparsec of honest. He has invaded two countries and threatens a third. Hundreds of thousands have lost their lives to his greed and he remains unmoved. He's a little tiny Hitler. He's evil without vision.

Wuss.
Being a top myself, InHouston, I think girls should be wusses. I can tell you're not a top, wuss. :lol:

Kriss
10-06-2007, 10:58 PM
Excellent film by Greg Pallast about bush family money, dubya's fraudulent war record and election fraud

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8187301869971500776&q=bush+family+fortunes&total=34&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

It's a bit old (2003) so he hadn't found out about the $3 million of nazi money that prescott bush laundered which founded the current busch dynasty

trish
10-06-2007, 11:46 PM
Damn right george bush is a wuss. He and just about the entire republican party is running around in circles crying, "they're going to fight us here...there going to fight us here...they're soooo terrifying!! take my rights...invade my privacy...hell with habeas corpus and the constitution....just save me....save me, jesus, save me!" yep....WUSS about covers 'em all.

chefmike
10-07-2007, 12:16 AM
Interesting film documenting the links between The Bush family and the Nazi party in germany.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8795795223394289910&q=bush+family+nazi&total=262&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

Prescott bush, father of george h.w. bush and grandfather of george "w" bush, was arrested in 1942 for laundering $3 million of Nazi money , looted from europe. Years later the bank was dissolved and prescott got his money back, this was the start of the bush family fortune.

George "w" bush and john kerry are 9th cousins.
papa geoRge H.W. bush (the rose) and his wife barbera bush are 9th cousins
barbara bush is rumoured to be the illigitimate daughter of satanist Alistair Crowley
The bush family are related to the British winsdor family

Why do you think the hiltler bloodline is obscured thru history?
I can trace my family 250 years thru birth and marrage certificates in england so why is so little known about the ancestors (AND descendants) of such a powerful figure in history?

Hitler was a closet homosexual, let's be honest, the nazi party was about the gayest party in history, all that 'young boys in lederhosen' stuff.
Both George bushes are closet homosexuals.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=336003#336003

The nazi party in germany was originally financed by the THULE society , the german predecessor of the SKULL and BONES society of YALE of which "w" bush and john kerry are both members, as was papa george bush.

In 1933 hitler burnt the reichstag, his OWN house of congress so that he could introduce restrictions in the name of 'national security', then he made ID papers a requirement, then the hunted down the so-called "communists" (any enemy of the nazi party), Then he took voting rights off jews, little by little he created the police state thru propaganda and fear, made the germans paranoid of thier neighbours and the police.

Bush has done and is doing similar things in america, the faked attacks of 911, current crackdown on civil liberties and proection offered to openly racist police who can tase, beat and kill with impunity.

Hilter was a puppet, Bush is a puppet (But H.W. is a lot higher up in the society). They are both instruments of the same puppeteer.

Why are FEMA building Hundreds of empty prison camps all with RAILROAD access? Why is AMTRACK buying hundreds of 'prison rail cars'
with shackles?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=277826260716604258&q=fema+camp&total=104&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

First they will try to provoke martial law thru the financial crisis/ collapse of the dollar, then the 'terrorists' (remember, since the patriot act even using illegal drugs can be called an "act of terror") will be arrested.
Then they will take the arabs, muslims, mexicans and then the jews.
THERE IS A CONSPIRACY AND IT IS A RACIST WHITE CONSPIRACY.

The "zionist" conspiracy is a lie promoted by propaganda professionals to provoke a war between arab and jewish people. The same people run AL quaida. Remember, DIVIDE AND RULE is thier aim. The people who claim to be zionist jews are descended from Kazars, a nation who CONVERTED to Judaism 900 years ago, these people are not descendants of the israelites.

WE ARE RULED BY THE DESCENDANTS OF BABYLONIAN ROYAL FAMILIES

In 2003 ROBIN COOK quit his job in the British government in disgust over the illegal iraq war. Cook described Al-Qaida as a product of a western miscalculation, in a 2005 newspaper column:

"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

Robin Cook was killed weeks later in suspicious circumstances, The government said it was heart failure but paramedics who attended the scene reported that he looked like he deid of a broken neck.

LMFAO...break out the tinfoil hats. I'm beginning to suspect that you and Jamie Michelle are sharing the same padded cell.

Kriss
10-07-2007, 01:09 AM
In 2003 ROBIN COOK quit his job in the British government in disgust over the illegal iraq war. Cook described Al-Qaida as a product of a western miscalculation, in a 2005 newspaper column:

"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

Robin Cook was killed weeks later in suspicious circumstances, The government said it was heart failure but paramedics who attended the scene reported that he looked like he died of a broken neck.

LMFAO...break out the tinfoil hats. I'm beginning to suspect that you and Jamie Michelle are sharing the same padded cell.

So are you telling me that ROBIN COOK , A Member of Tony B liar's government did not write that about AL Qaida?

Why mention tin foil hats mike? that is the first thing you DISINFORMATION bots always say, yet I havent posted anything regarding ELF , HAARP, or any other electro-magnetic research or weapons. So where's the tin-foil hat link?

WHY DOES IT UPSET YOU SO MUCH CHEFMIKE? don't worry about people thinking you are paranoid, speak up, what 's on your mind?
Why broadly try to discredit EVERYTHING in my post when certain aspects (anti Busch,illegality of war) are in line with your particular brand of truth.

ARE you telling me that F.E.M.A. is NOT diverting billions into building mass work camps in case of 'civil emergencies'?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=277826260716604258&q=fema+camp&total=104&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I'm sure that the criticisms of bush you posted here are enough to get you onto the 'blue list'. I'm probably 'red list' by now, straight to the camps, before MARTIAL LAW is even declared suspending the constitution for 6 MONTHS. It's ALL in the patriot act.

watch democrat Brooks warned off questioning Oliver North over plans for 'continuity of government'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c&mode=related&search=

guyone
10-07-2007, 09:42 PM
watch democrat Brooks warned off questioning Oliver North over plans for 'continuity of government'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c&mode=related&search=


Funny...that's all happening in Venzuela right now led by the benevolent leader Hugo Chavez and he just gets praise!

chefmike
10-08-2007, 05:18 AM
How was jesus camp, gumpone? I certainly hope that you didn't drop the soap around Ted Haggard, Tom Foley, Larry Craig, or any of the other bible-banging butt pirates that were being "saved" there...

Kriss
10-08-2007, 07:13 AM
watch democrat Brooks warned off questioning Oliver North over plans for 'continuity of government'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c&mode=related&search=


Funny...that's all happening in Venzuela right now led by the benevolent leader Hugo Chavez and he just gets praise!

Do you live in Venezuela? NO? Then shouldn't you be more concerned with it happening in YOUR COUNTRY? Are you not worried that large standing batallions of german and russian troops are manning these un-used facilities? Does it not occur that while most American troops are overseas FEMA are using foreign soldiers to deal with states of emergency and PRIVATE armies like BLACKWATER dealt with KATRINA.

Rep. Peter DeFazio gives a speech on the house floor to fellow members discussing the fact that Bush Administration has denied the entire Dept of Homeland Security Committee access to the so called detailed plans that the White House has drafted to ensure the continuity of government in case of a major "terrorist" attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdfjsS9Wqk8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eprisonplanet%2Ecom%2Fartic les%2Foctober2007%2F071007Continuity%2Ehtm

qeuqheeg222
10-08-2007, 11:18 AM
where are the f.e.m.a. workkampfs,,i'm a katrina refugee myself...

guyone
10-08-2007, 04:41 PM
Kriss,

Your diatribe is simply the ramblings of your own paranoid delusions. I have yet to encounter any of the crap you spew. Why? Because it's all in your head!

BTW-is the 'gayone' tag supposed to be derogatory? My conclusion is that not only are you paranoid but homophobic as well.

Night Rider
10-08-2007, 04:54 PM
He's Hitler in disguise!

Rogers
10-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Kriss,

Your diatribe is simply the ramblings of your own paranoid delusions. I have yet to encounter any of the crap you spew. Why? Because it's all in your head!

BTW-is the 'gayone' tag supposed to be derogatory? My conclusion is that not only are you paranoid but homophobic as well.
I agree with you, guyone. :o But your bolshevik/commie/anti-Chavez diatribe makes YOU sound paranoid as well!

BTW, it's good to see you back. Seriously! I was afraid you'd commited suicide in your (NORAD) bunker after your Eastern (Pantywaisted) Front collapsed. :)

Kriss
10-09-2007, 01:22 AM
where are the f.e.m.a. workkampfs,,i'm a katrina refugee myself...

Where are these camps?

ALABAMA
Opelika - Military compound either in or very near town.
Aliceville - WWII German POW camp - capacity 15,000
Ft. McClellan (Anniston) - Opposite side of town from Army Depot;
Maxwell AFB (Montgomery) - Civilian prison camp established under Operation
Garden Plot, currently operating with support staff and small inmate
population.
Talladega - Federal prison "satellite" camp.


ALASKA
Wilderness - East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only.
Estimated capacity of 500,000 Elmendorf AFB - Northeast area of Anchorage -
far end of base. Garden Plot facility.
Eielson AFB - Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.
Ft. Wainwright - East of Fairbanks


ARIZONA
Ft. Huachuca - 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales Rex '84
facility.
Pinal County - on the Gila River - WWII Japanese detention camp. May be
renovated.
Yuma County - Colorado River - Site of former Japanese detention camp (near
proving grounds). This site was completely removed in 1990 according to
some reports.
Phoenix - Federal Prison Satellite Camp. Main federal facility expanded.
Florence - WWII prison camp NOW RENOVATED, OPERATIONAL with staff & 400
prisoners, operational capacity of 3,500.
Wickenburg - Airport is ready for conversion; total capacity unknown.
Davis-Monthan AFB (Tucson) - Fully staffed and presently holding
prisoners!!
Sedona - site of possible UN base.


ARKANSAS
Ft. Chaffee (near Fort Smith, Arkansas) - Has new runway for aircraft, new
camp facility with cap of 40,000 prisoners Pine Bluff Arsenal - This
location also is the repository for B-Z nerve agent, which causes
sleepiness, dizziness, stupor; admitted use is for civilian control. Jerome
- Chicot/Drew Counties - site of WWII Japanese camps Rohwer - Descha County
- site of WWII Japanese camps Blythville AFB - Closed airbase now being
used as camp. New wooden barracks have been constructed at this location.
Classic decorations - guard towers, barbed wire, high fences. Berryville -
FEMA facility located east of Eureka Springs off Hwy. 62. Omaha - Northeast
of Berryville near Missouri state line, on Hwy 65 south of old wood
processing plant. Possible crematory facility.


CALIFORNIA
Vandenburg AFB - Rex 84 facility, located near Lompoc & Santa Maria.
Internment facility is located near the oceanside, close to Space Launch
Complex #6, also called "Slick Six". The launch site has had "a flawless
failure record" and is rarely used. Norton AFB - (closed base) now staffed
with UN according to some sources. Tule Lake - area of "wildlife refuge",
accessible by unpaved road, just inside Modoc County. Fort Ord - Closed in
1994, this facility is now an urban warfare training center for US and
foreign troops, and may have some "P.O.W. - C.I." enclosures. Twentynine
Palms Marine Base - Birthplace of the infamous "Would you shoot American
citizens?" Quiz. New camps being built on "back 40". Oakdale - Rex 84 camp
capable of holding at least 20,000 people. 90 mi. East of San Francisco.
Terminal Island - (Long Beach) located next to naval shipyards operated by
ChiCom shipping interests. Federal prison facility located here. Possible
deportation point. Ft. Irwin - FEMA facility near Barstow. Base is
designated inactive but has staffed camp. McClellan AFB - facility capable
for 30,000 - 35,000 Sacramento - Army Depot - No specific information at
this time. Mather AFB - Road to facility is blocked off by cement barriers
and a stop sign. Sign states area is restricted; as of 1997 there were
barbed wire fences pointing inward, a row of stadium lights pointed toward
an empty field, etc. Black boxes on poles may have been cameras.


COLORADO
Trinidad - WWII German/Italian camp being renovated. Granada - Prowers
County - WWII Japanese internment camp Ft. Carson - Along route 115 near
Canon City


CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE
No data available.


FLORIDA
Avon Park - Air Force gunnery range, Avon Park has an on-base "correctional
facility" which was a former WWII detention camp. Camp Krome - DoJ
detention/interrogation center, Rex 84 facility Eglin AFB - This base is
over 30 miles long, from Pensacola to Hwy 331 in De Funiak Springs. High
capacity facility, presently manned and populated with some prisoners.
Pensacola - Federal Prison Camp Everglades - It is believed that a facility
may be carved out of the wilds here.


GEORGIA
Ft. Benning - Located east of Columbus near Alabama state line. Rex 84 site
- Prisoners brought in via Lawson Army airfield. Ft. Mc Pherson - US Force
Command - Multiple reports that this will be the national headquarters and
coordinating center for foreign/UN troop movement and detainee collection.
Ft. Gordon - West of Augusta - No information at this time. Unadilla -
Dooly County - Manned, staffed FEMA prison on route 230, no prisoners.
Oglethorpe - Macon County; facility is located five miles from Montezuma,
three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staff and no
prisoners. Morgan - Calhoun County, FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed
- no prisoners. Camilla - Mitchell County, south of Albany. This FEMA
facility is located on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of
Camilla. Unmanned - no prisoners, no staff. Hawkinsville - Wilcox County;
Five miles east of town, fully manned and staffed but no prisoners. Located
on fire road 100/Upper River Road Abbeville - South of Hawkinsville on US
route 129; south of town off route 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility
is staffed but without prisoners. McRae - Telfair County - 1.5 miles west
of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St.,
manned & staffed - no prisoners. Fort Gillem - South side of Atlanta - FEMA
designated detention facility. Fort Stewart - Savannah area - FEMA
designated detention facility


HAWAII
Halawa Heights area - Crematory facility located in hills above city. Area
is marked as a state department of health laboratory. Barbers Point NAS -
There are several military areas that could be equipped for detention /
deportation. Honolulu - Detention transfer facility at the Honolulu airport
similar in construction to the one in.Oklahoma (pentagon-shaped building
where airplanes can taxi up to).


IDAHO
Minidoka/Jerome Counties - WWII Japanese-American internment facility
possibly under renovation. Clearwater National Forest - Near Lolo Pass -
Just miles from the Montana state line near Moose Creek, this unmanned
facility is reported to have a nearby airfield. Wilderness areas - Possible
location. No data.


ILLINOIS
Marseilles - Located on the Illinois River off Interstate 80 on Hwy 6. It
is a relatively small facility with a cap of 1400 prisoners. Though it is
small it is designed like prison facilities with barred windows, but the
real smoking gun is the presence of military vehicles. Being located on the
Illinois River it is possible that prisoners will be brought in by water as
well as by road and air. This facility is approximately 75 miles west of
Chicago. National Guard training area nearby. Scott AFB - Barbed wire
prisoner enclosure reported to exist just off-base. More info needed, as
another facility on-base is beieved to exist. Pekin - This Federal
satellite prison camp is also on the Illinois River, just south of Peoria.
It supplements the federal penitentiary in Marion, which is equipped to
handle additional population outside on the grounds. Chanute AFB - Rantoul,
near Champaign/Urbana - This closed base had WWII - era barracks that were
condemned and torn down, but the medical facility was upgraded and
additional fencing put up in the area. More info needed. Marion - Federal
Penitentiary and satellite prison camp inside Crab Orchard Nat'l Wildlife
Refuge. Manned, staffed, populated fully. Greenfield - Two federal
correctional "satellite prison camps" serving Marion - populated as above.
Shawnee National Forest - Pope County - This area has seen heavy traffic of
foreign military equipment and troops via Illinois Central Railroad, which
runs through the area. Suspected location is unknown, but may be close to
Vienna and Shawnee correctional centers, located 6 mi. west of Dixon
Springs. Savanna Army Depot - NW area of state on Mississippi River.
Lincoln, Sheridan, Menard, Pontiac, Galesburg - State prison facilities
equipped for major expansion and close or adjacent to highways & railroad
tracks. Kankakee - Abandoned industrial area on west side of town (Rt.17 &
Main) designated as FEMA detention site. Equipped with water tower,
incinerator, a small train yard behind it and the rear of the facility is
surrounded by barbed wire facing inwards.


INDIANA
Indianapolis / Marion County - Amtrak railcar repair facility (closed);
controversial site of a major alleged detention / processing center.
Although some sources state that this site is a "red herring", photographic
and video evidence suggests otherwise. This large facility contains large
3-4 inch gas mains to large furnaces (crematoria??), helicopter landing
pads, railheads for prisoners, Red/Blue/Green zones for
classifying/processing incoming personnel, one-way turnstiles, barracks,
towers, high fences with razor wire, etc. Personnel with government
clearance who are friendly to the patriot movement took a guided tour of
the facility to confirm this site. This site is located next to a closed
refrigeration plant facility. Ft. Benjamin Harrison - Located in the
northeast part of Indianapolis, this base has been decomissioned from
"active" use but portions are still ideally converted to hold detainees.
Helicopter landing areas still exist for prisoners to be brought in by air,
land & rail. Crown Point - Across street from county jail, former hospital.
One wing presently being used for county work-release program, 80% of
facility still unused. Possible FEMA detention center or holding facility.
Camp Atterbury - Facility is converted to hold prisoners and boasts two
active compounds presently configured for minumum security detainees.
Located just west of Interstate 65 near Edinburgh, south of Indianapolis.
Terre Haute - Federal Correctional Institution, Satellite prison camp and
death facility. Equipped with crematoria reported to have a capacity of
3,000 people a day. FEMA designated facility located here. Fort Wayne -
This city located in Northeast Indiana has a FEMA designated detention
facility, accessible by air, road and nearby rail. Kingsbury - This
"closed" military base is adjacent to a state fish & wildlife preserve.
Part of the base is converted to an industrial park, but the southern
portion of this property is still used. It is bordered on the south by
railroad, and is staffed with some foreign-speaking UN troops. A local
police officer who was hunting and camping close to the base in the game
preserve was accosted, roughed up, and warned by the English-speaking unit
commander to stay away from the area. It was suggested to the officer that
the welfare of his family would depend on his "silence". Located just
southeast of LaPorte. Jasper-Pulaski Wildlife Area - Youth Corrections farm
located here. Facility is "closed", but is still staffed and being
"renovated". Total capacity unknown. Grissom AFB - This closed airbase
still handles a lot of traffic, and has a "state-owned" prison compound on
the southern part of the facility.


UNICOR
. Jefferson Proving Grounds - Southern Indiana - This facility was an
active base with test firing occuring daily. Portions of the base have been
opened to create an industrial park, but other areas are still highly
restricted. A camp is believed to be located "downrange". Facility is
equipped with an airfield and has a nearby rail line. Newport - Army Depot
- VX nerve gas storage facility. Secret meetings were held here in 1998
regarding the addition of the Kankakee River watershed to the Heritage
Rivers Initiative. Hammond - large enclosure identified in FEMA-designated
city.


IOWA
No data available.


KANSAS
Leavenworth - US Marshal's Fed Holding Facility, US Penitentiary, Federal
Prison Camp, McConnell Air Force Base. Federal death penalty facility.
Concordia - WWII German POW camp used to exist at this location but there
is no facility there at this time. Ft. Riley - Just north of Interstate 70,
airport, near city of Manhattan. El Dorado - Federal prison converted into
forced-labor camp, UNICOR industries. Topeka - 80 acres has been converted
into a temporary holding camp.


KENTUCKY
Ashland - Federal prison camp in Eastern Kentucky near the Ohio River.
Louisville - FEMA detention facility, located near restricted area US naval
ordnance plant. Military airfield located at facility, which is on south
side of city. Lexington - FEMA detention facility, National Guard base with
adjacent airport facility. Manchester - Federal prison camp located inside
Dan Boone National Forest. Ft. Knox - Detention center, possibly located
near Salt River, in restricted area of base. Local patriots advise that
black Special Forces & UN gray helicopters are occasionally seen in area.
Land Between the Lakes - This area was declared a UN biosphere and is an
ideal geographic location for detention facilities. Area is an isthmus
extending out from Tennessee, between Lake Barkley on the east and Kentucky
Lake on the west. Just scant miles from Fort Campbell in Tennessee.


LOUISIANA
Ft. Polk - This is a main base for UN troops & personnel, and a training
center for the disarmament of America. Livingston - WWII German/Italian
internment camp being renovated?; halfway between Baton Rouge and Hammond,
several miles north of Interstate 12. Oakdale - Located on US route 165
about 50 miles south of Alexandria; two federal detention centers just
southeast of Fort Polk.


MAINE
Houlton - WWII German internment camp in Northern Maine, off US Route 1.


MARYLAND, and DC
Ft. Meade - Halfway between the District of Criminals and Baltimore. Data
needed. Ft. Detrick - Biological warfare center for the NWO, located in
Frederick.


MASSACHUSETTS
Camp Edwards / Otis AFB - Cape Cod - This "inactive" base is being
converted to hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown. Ft. Devens
- Active detention facility. More data needed.


MICHIGAN
Camp Grayling - Michigan Nat'l Guard base has several confirmed detention
camps, classic setup with high fences, razor wire, etc. Guard towers are
very well-built, sturdy. Multiple compounds within larger enclosures.
Facility deep within forest area. Sawyer AFB - Upper Peninsula - south of
Marquette - No data available. Bay City - Classic enclosure with guard
towers, high fence, and close to shipping port on Saginaw Bay, which
connects to Lake Huron. Could be a deportation point to overseas via St.
Lawrence Seaway. Southwest - possibly Berrien County - FEMA detention
center. Lansing - FEMA detention facility.


MINNESOTA
Duluth - Federal prison camp facility. Camp Ripley - new prison facility.


MISSISSIPPI
These sites are confirmed hoaxes. Hancock County - NASA test site De Soto
National Forest. "These two supposed camps in Mississippi do not exist.
Members of the Mississippi Militia have checked these out on more than one
occasion beginning back when they first appeared on the Internet and
throughout the Patriot Movement." - Commander D. Rayner, Mississippi
Militia


MISSOURI
Richards-Gebaur AFB - located in Grandview, near K.C.MO. A very large
internment facility has been built on this base, and all base personnel are
restricted from coming near it. Ft. Leonard Wood - Situated in the middle
of Mark Twain National Forest in Pulaski County. This site has been known
for some UN training, also home to the US Army Urban Warfare Training
school "Stem Village". Warsaw - Unconfirmed report of a large concentration
camp facility.


MONTANA
Malmstrom AFB - UN aircraft groups stationed here, and possibly a detention
facility.


NEBRASKA
Scottsbluff - WWII German POW camp (renovated?). Northwest, Northeast
corners of state - FEMA detention facilities - more data needed. South
Central part of state - Many old WWII sites - some may be renovated.


NEVADA
Elko - Ten miles south of town. Wells - Camp is located in the O'Niel basin
area, 40 miles north of Wells, past Thousand Springs, west off Hwy 93 for
25 miles. Pershing County - Camp is located at I-80 mile marker 112, south
side of the highway, about a mile back on the county road and then just off
the road about 3/4mi. Winnemucca - Battle Mountain area - at the base of
the mountains. Nellis Air Force Range - Northwest from Las Vegas on Route
95. Nellis AFB is just north of Las Vegas on Hwy 604. Stillwater Naval Air
Station - east of Reno . No additional data.


NEW HAMPSHIRE / VERMONT
Northern New Hampshire - near Lake Francis. No additional data.


NEW JERSEY
Ft. Dix / McGuire AFB - Possible deportation point for detainees. Lots of
pictures taken of detention compounds and posted on Internet, this camp is
well-known. Facility is now complete and ready for occupancy.


NEW MEXICO
Ft. Bliss - This base actually straddles Texas state line. Just south of
Alomogordo, Ft. Bliss has thousands of acres for people who refuse to go
with the "New Order". Holloman AFB (Alomogordo)- Home of the German
Luftwaffe in Amerika; major UN base. New facility being built on this base,
according to recent visitors. Many former USAF buildings have been torn
down by the busy and rapidly growing German military force located here.
Fort Stanton - currently being used as a youth detention facility
approximately 35 miles north of Ruidoso, New Mexico. Not a great deal of
information concerning the Lordsburg location. White Sands Missile Range -
Currently being used as a storage facility for United Nations vehicles and
equipment. Observers have seen this material brought in on the Whitesands
rail spur in Oro Grande New Mexico about thirty miles from the Texas, New
Mexico Border.


NEW YORK
Ft. Drum - two compounds: Rex 84 detention camp and FEMA detention
facility. Albany - FEMA detention facility. Otisville - Federal
correctional facility, near Middletown. Buffalo - FEMA detention facility.


NORTH CAROLINA
Camp Lejeune / New River Marine Airfield - facility has renovated, occupied
WWII detention compounds and "mock city" that closely resembles Anytown,
USA. Fort Bragg - Special Warfare Training Center. Renovated WWII detention
facility. Andrews - Federal experiment in putting a small town under siege.
Began with the search/ hunt for survivalist Eric Rudolph. No persons were
allowed in or out of town without federal permission and travel through
town was highly restricted. Most residents compelled to stay in their
homes. Unregistered Baptist pastor from Indiana visiting Andrews affirmed
these facts.


NORTH DAKOTA
Minot AFB - Home of UN air group. More data needed on facility.


OHIO
Camp Perry - Site renovated; once used as a POW camp to house German and
Italian prisoners of WWII. Some tar paper covered huts built for housing
these prisoners are still standing. Recently, the construction of multiple
200-man barracks have replaced most of the huts. Cincinnati, Cleveland,
Columbus - FEMA detention facilities. Data needed. Lima - FEMA detention
facility. Another facility located in/near old stone quarry near Interstate
75. Railroad access to property, fences etc.


OKLAHOMA
Tinker AFB (OKC) - All base personnel are prohibited from going near
civilian detention area, which is under constant guard. Will Rogers World
Airport - FEMA's main processing center for west of the Mississippi. All
personnel are kept out of the security zone. Federal prisoner transfer
center located here (A pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up
to). Photos have been taken and this site will try to post soon! El Reno -
Renovated federal internment facility with CURRENT population of 12,000 on
Route 66. McAlester - near Army Munitions Plant property - former WWII
German / Italian POW camp designated for future use. Ft. Sill (Lawton) -
Former WWII detention camps. More data still needed.


OREGON
Sheridan - Federal prison satellite camp northwest of Salem. Josephine
County - WWII Japanese internment camp ready for renovation. Sheridan -
FEMA detention center. Umatilla - New prison spotted.


PENNSYLVANIA
Allenwood - Federal prison camp located south of Williamsport on the
Susquehanna River. It has a current inmate population of 300, and is
identified by William Pabst as having a capacity in excess of 15,000 on 400
acres.
Indiantown Gap Military Reservation - located north of Harrisburg. Used for
WWII POW camp and renovated by Jimmy Carter. Was used to hold Cubans during
Mariel boat lift.
Camp Hill - State prison close to Army depot. Lots of room, located in Camp
Hill, Pa. New Cumberland Army Depot - on the Susquehanna River, located off
Interstate 83 and Interstate 76.
Schuylkill Haven - Federal prison camp, north of Reading.


SOUTH CAROLINA
Greenville - Unoccupied youth prison camp; total capacity unknown.
Charleston - Naval Reserve & Air Force base, restricted area on naval base.


SOUTH DAKOTA
Yankton - Federal prison camp
Black Hills Nat'l Forest - north of Edgemont, southwest part of state. WWII
internment camp being renovated.


TENNESSEE
Ft. Campbell - Next to Land Between the Lakes; adjacent to airfield and US
Alt. 41.
Millington - Federal prison camp next door to Memphis Naval Air Station.
Crossville - Site of WWII German / Italian prison camp is renovated;
completed barracks and behind the camp in the woods is a training facility
with high tight ropes and a rappelling deck.
Nashville - There are two buildings built on State property that are
definitely built to hold prisoners. They are identical buildings - side by
side on Old Briley Parkway. High barbed wire fence that curves inward.


TEXAS
Austin - Robert Mueller Municipal airport has detenion areas inside
hangars.
Bastrop - Prison and military vehicle motor pool.
Eden - 1500 bed privately run federal center. Currently holds illegal
aliens.
Ft. Hood (Killeen) - Newly built concentration camp, with towers, barbed
wire etc., just like the one featured in the movie Amerika. Mock city for
NWO shock- force training. Some footage of this area was used in "Waco: A
New Revelation" Reese AFB (Lubbock) - FEMA designated detention facility.
Sheppard AFB - in Wichita Falls just south of Ft. Sill, OK. FEMA designated
detention facility.
North Dallas - near Carrolton - water treatment plant, close to interstate
and railroad.
Mexia - East of Waco 33mi.; WWII German facility may be renovated.
Amarillo - FEMA designated detention facility
Ft. Bliss (El Paso) - Extensive renovation of buildings and from what
patriots have been able to see, many of these buildings that are being
renovated are being surrounded by razor wire.
Beaumont / Port Arthur area - hundreds of acres of federal camps already
built on large-scale detention camp design, complete with the double rows
of chain link fencing with razor type concertina wire on top of each row.
Some (but not all) of these facilities are currently being used for low-
risk state prisoners who require a minimum of supervision.
Ft. Worth - Federal prison under construction on the site of Carswell AFB.


UTAH
Millard County - Central Utah - WWII Japanese camp. (Renovated?)
Ft. Douglas - This "inactive" military reservation has a renovated WWII
concentration camp.
Migratory Bird Refuge - West of Brigham City - contains a WWII internment
camp that was built before the game preserve was established.
Cedar City - east of city - no data available. Wendover - WWII internment
camp may be renovated.
Skull Valley - southwestern Camp William property - east of the old bombing
range. Camp was accidentally discovered by a man and his son who were
rabbit hunting; they were discovered and apprehended. SW of Tooele.


VIRGINIA
Ft. A.P. Hill (Fredericksburg) - Rex 84 / FEMA facility. Estimated capacity
45,000.
Petersburg - Federal satellite prison camp, south of Richmond.


WEST VIRGINIA
Beckley - Alderson - Lewisburg - Former WWII detention camps that are now
converted into active federal prison complexes capable of holding several
times their current populations. Alderson is presently a women's federal
reformatory.
Morgantown - Federal prison camp located in northern WV; just north of
Kingwood.
Mill Creek - FEMA detention facility.
Kingwood - Newly built detention camp at Camp Dawson Army Reservation. More
data needed on Camp Dawson.


WASHINGTON
Seattle/Tacoma - SeaTac Airport: fully operational federal transfer center
Okanogan County - Borders Canada and is a site for a massive concentration
camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of people for slave labor.
This is probably one of the locations that will be used to hold hard core
patriots who will be held captive for the rest of their lives.
Sand Point Naval Station - Seattle - FEMA detention center used actively
during the 1999 WTO protests to classify prisoners.
Ft. Lewis / McChord AFB - near Tacoma - This is one of several sites that
may be used to ship prisoners overseas for slave labor.


WISCONSIN
Ft. McCoy - Rex 84 facility with several complete interment compounds.
Oxford - Central part of state - Federal prison & staellite camp and FEMA
detention facility.


WYOMING
Heart Mountain - Park County N. of Cody - WWII Japanese interment camp
ready for renovation.
Laramie - FEMA detention facility
Southwest - near Lyman - FEMA detention facility
East Yellowstone - Manned internment facility - Investigating patriots were
apprehended by European soldiers speaking in an unknown language. Federal
government assumed custody of the persons and arranged their release.


OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES
There are many other locations not listed above that are worthy of
consideration as a possible detention camp site, but due to space
limitations and the time needed to verify, could not be included here.
Virtually all military reservations, posts, bases, stations, & depots can
be considered highly suspect (because it is "federal" land). Also fitting
this category are "Regional Airports" and "International Airports" which
also fall under federal jurisdiction and have limited-access areas. Mental
hospitals, closed hospitals & nursing homes, closed military bases,
wildlife refuges, state prisons, toxic waste dumps, hotels and other areas
all have varying degrees of potential for being a detention camp area. The
likelihood of a site being suspect increases with transportation access to
the site, including airports/airstrips, railheads, navigable waterways &
ports, interstate and US highways. Some facilities are "disguised" as
industrial or commercial properties, camouflaged or even wholly contained
inside large buildings (Indianapolis) or factories. Many inner-city
buildings left vacant during the de-industrialization of America have been
quietly acquired and held, sometimes retrofitted for their new uses.


CANADA
Our Canadian friends tell us that virtually all Canadian military bases,
especially those north of the 50th Parallel, are all set up with
concentration camps. Not even half of these can be listed, but here are a
few sites with the massive land space to handle any population:
Suffield CFB - just north of Medicine Hat, less than 60 miles from the USA.
Primrose Lake Air Range - 70 miles northeast of Edmonton.
Wainwright CFB - halfway between Medicine Hat and Primrose Lake.
Ft. Nelson - Northernmost point on the BC Railway line.
Ft. McPherson - Very cold territory ~ NW Territories. Ft. Providence -
Located on Great Slave Lake. Halifax - Nova Scotia. Dept. of National
Defense reserve.... And others.


OVERSEAS LOCATIONS
Guayanabo, Puerto Rico - Federal prison camp facility. Capacity unknown.
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba - US Marine Corps Base - Presently home to 30,000
Mariel Cubans and 40,000 Albanians. Total capacity unknown.

FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and
ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by
full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass
exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be
quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84
allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into
prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from
the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of
the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the
largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The
Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold
approximately 2 million people.

Now let's review the justification for any actions taken...

Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990

allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995

allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997

allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum,
fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998

allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including
personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all
highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999

allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000

allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under
government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001

allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare
functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002

designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all
persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005

allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public
storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051

specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives
authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased
international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310

grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out
in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial
and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and
correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049

assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and
agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921

allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to
establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of
energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S.
financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides
that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress
cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947

allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and
other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements
for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act

gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916

authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of
any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other
purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Act

enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or
national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

hippifried
10-09-2007, 09:57 AM
He's Hitler in disguise!
Nah. He's Alfred E Newman & doesn't even bother with a disguise, except for the replacement tooth. What? Me worry?

chefmike
10-09-2007, 02:47 PM
There coming to take me away! But not to worry, I'm wearing my trusty tinfoil hat!

Kriss
10-10-2007, 01:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmXlj01p1zM

Kriss
10-10-2007, 01:03 AM
EVERYONE LOVES HIDDEN MESSAGES

chefmike
10-10-2007, 05:44 AM
Say cheese, Krisp!

Kriss
10-10-2007, 07:42 AM
MIKE LIKES NEWS..........

tsafficianado
10-11-2007, 02:52 AM
where are the f.e.m.a. workkampfs,,i'm a katrina refugee myself...

Where are these camps?

Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.



so, Krisp, hopefully you have a very warm winter coat. be careful of the bears and DO NOT eat the yellow snow.

seriously chicken little, if you bothered to check into ANY of these executive orders you would realize that you are fronting for a bunch of delusional half-wits. perhaps they will make you their king?
king bat-boy, the guano savant

qeuqheeg222
10-11-2007, 08:29 AM
detention facilities for the convicts flooded out of O.P.P during the flood would not need all of these military jails,airport hangers,alaskan work camps where they housed the "japs" in ww2...i do know a few people who where incarcerated during katrina or rita that where shipped to regular state run facilities in other states..no mein kampf und der kriegen situation has occurred...no bushism mental retraining or anything....the are just moved to one shithouse prison to another...

chefmike
10-11-2007, 04:38 PM
You'll never convince batshit-crazy Krisp of that.

Kriss
10-12-2007, 06:29 PM
You'll never convince batshit-crazy Krisp of that.

WHY ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH ME MIKE?

Check ou baby georges reptilian tongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVIglDQpb50&mode=related&search=Reptilian%20Eye%3A%20Nancy%20Pelosi

papa George bush is a reptilian.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaaubr3nnHI&mode=related&search=

Night Rider
10-20-2007, 01:02 AM
http://www.v7n.com/forums/attachments/forum-lobby/2588d1151108723-funny-pictures-269.jpg

Kriss
10-20-2007, 02:32 AM
Don't insult the chimps man. monkeys are cool

It's well known that chimps can learn skills and use simple technology such as breaking nuts open with stones. this level of intelligence is WAY beyond Caligua Bush

Night Rider
10-20-2007, 07:28 PM
good point!

Don Ho
10-27-2007, 01:59 AM
Interesting film documenting the links between The Bush family and the Nazi party in germany.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8795795223394289910&q=bush+family+nazi&total=262&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=1


Prescott bush, father of george h.w. bush and grandfather of george "w" bush, was arrested in 1942 for laundering $3 million of Nazi money , looted from europe. Years later the bank was dissolved and prescott got his money back, this was the start of the bush family fortune.

George "w" bush and john kerry are 9th cousins.
papa geoRge H.W. bush (the rose) and his wife barbera bush are 9th cousins
barbara bush is rumoured to be the illigitimate daughter of satanist Alistair Crowley
The bush family are related to the British winsdor family

Why do you think the hiltler bloodline is obscured thru history?
I can trace my family 250 years thru birth and marrage certificates in england so why is so little known about the ancestors (AND descendants) of such a powerful figure in history?

Hitler was a closet homosexual, let's be honest, the nazi party was about the gayest party in history, all that 'young boys in lederhosen' stuff.
Both George bushes are closet homosexuals.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=336003#336003

The nazi party in germany was originally financed by the THULE society , the german predecessor of the SKULL and BONES society of YALE of which "w" bush and john kerry are both members, as was papa george bush.

In 1933 hitler burnt the reichstag, his OWN house of congress so that he could introduce restrictions in the name of 'national security', then he made ID papers a requirement, then the hunted down the so-called "communists" (any enemy of the nazi party), Then he took voting rights off jews, little by little he created the police state thru propaganda and fear, made the germans paranoid of thier neighbours and the police.

Bush has done and is doing similar things in america, the faked attacks of 911, current crackdown on civil liberties and proection offered to openly racist police who can tase, beat and kill with impunity.

Hilter was a puppet, Bush is a puppet (But H.W. is a lot higher up in the society). They are both instruments of the same puppeteer.

Why are FEMA building Hundreds of empty prison camps all with RAILROAD access? Why is AMTRACK buying hundreds of 'prison rail cars'
with shackles?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=277826260716604258&q=fema+camp&total=104&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

First they will try to provoke martial law thru the financial crisis/ collapse of the dollar, then the 'terrorists' (remember, since the patriot act even using illegal drugs can be called an "act of terror") will be arrested.
Then they will take the arabs, muslims, mexicans and then the jews.
THERE IS A CONSPIRACY AND IT IS A RACIST WHITE CONSPIRACY.

The "zionist" conspiracy is a lie promoted by propaganda professionals to provoke a war between arab and jewish people. The same people run AL quaida. Remember, DIVIDE AND RULE is thier aim. The people who claim to be zionist jews are descended from Kazars, a nation who CONVERTED to Judaism 900 years ago, these people are not descendants of the israelites.

WE ARE RULED BY THE DESCENDANTS OF BABYLONIAN ROYAL FAMILIES

In 2003 ROBIN COOK quit his job in the British government in disgust over the illegal iraq war. Cook described Al-Qaida as a product of a western miscalculation, in a 2005 newspaper column:

"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

Robin Cook was killed weeks later in suspicious circumstances, The government said it was heart failure but paramedics who attended the scene reported that he looked like he deid of a broken neck.I will agree with you on this one Kriss. I read a book by Greg Palast called "Fortunate Son" that was all about the history of the Bush family. Interesting stuff.

Kriss
11-26-2007, 04:09 AM
Check this ILLUMINATING video of speech by George busch

http://www.thesmokehammer.com/

endo79
11-26-2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.sexhamster.com/weblog/macropics/tinfoil-hat.jpg

Hilarious thread, some of you folks are just crazy.

Hitler started a world war, causing the deaths of millions of soldiers, and pursued and tried to exterminate an entire race of people.

George W Bush has been fiscally inept; he has started one entirely justified war (Afghanistan) and one dodgy one over oil (Iraq) but the death tolls are nothing compared to Hitler!

George Bush: rubbish President, yes. Insane mass-murdering dictator, no.

(and I've served with the British Army in Afghanistan and ISAF forces are doing a great humanitarian and peacekeeping job there)

Night Rider
11-26-2007, 08:36 PM
George Bush: rubbish President, yes. Insane mass-murdering dictator, no.

:what

George Bush isn't in the same league as Hitler but he is an insane mass-murderer

q1a2z3
11-27-2007, 05:27 AM
Bush is simply an idiot. He should have nuked mecca, riyad, and tora bora on the 12th of September, 2001 and taught his fellow idiots in the middle east that they need to overthrow their own governments and not to screw with America. There may not be any real men left in America who can push the button. Republicans and Democrats alike, like Bush, are enjoying growing a vagina. The feminization of American men continues under the communist rule of the public school system.The last laugh will be had by conservatives if the muslem (scum) caliphate does come to America in that they can watch the left get to know their "new friends." How many bathhouses are in the middle east?

What's my oil doing under their soil?

trish
11-27-2007, 05:48 AM
q1, why are you such a COWARDLY BABY? you really are AFRAID of the "muslem caliphate" aren't you? what a PUSSY! what an IDIOT!! I can see our communistic school system left you behind...way behind. But I bet you know how to push a button though, don't you? You practice on the busy box in your crib every day, don't you? Tell me, are you potty trained yet? If so, why do you leave these little baby loads of poop all over the place at HA?

hippifried
11-27-2007, 06:09 AM
:shock:

Rogers
11-27-2007, 06:59 AM
Bush is simply an idiot. He should have nuked mecca, riyad, and tora bora on the 12th of September, 2001 and taught his fellow idiots in the middle east that they need to overthrow their own governments and not to screw with America. There may not be any real men left in America who can push the button. Republicans and Democrats alike, like Bush, are enjoying growing a vagina. The feminization of American men continues under the communist rule of the public school system.The :wink: last laugh will be had by conservatives if the muslem (scum) caliphate does come to America in that they can watch the left get to know their "new friends." How many bathhouses are in the middle east?

What's my oil doing under their soil?
Quite_a_zealot won't directly answer you trish, because he IS a pussy... a pussy with an obssession for vaseline :lol: . He's just here to stir. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed his constant use of words which effectively attack everyone on this board. It's actually quite clever for a retarded pussy. I would not be surprised if that's Closet_Case_Canada back to pedal his hatred for himself because let's face it, he never actually left. If it is him, he's actually been quite cute in his choice of handle this time as it's difficult to make fun of it.

Anyhoo, last time I checked Saudi has been a key ally of the West since before 9/11 and still has U.S. Forces on its territory, and if its government is overthrown by its people it will most likely go the way of Iran. Plus, getting any oil out of a radioactively contaminated Saudi would jack the price of a barrel of oil to an unacceptable level and trigger a global recession. But then nuking Saudi is the kind of logic we can only expect from a retarded pussy... with an obssession for vaseline. :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

Bush certifies Saudi Arabia as 'war on terror' ally
Saturday, October 20, 2007
http://dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=86104

chefmike
11-27-2007, 08:51 AM
Bush is simply an idiot. He should have nuked mecca, riyad, and tora bora on the 12th of September, 2001 and taught his fellow idiots in the middle east that they need to overthrow their own governments and not to screw with America. There may not be any real men left in America who can push the button. Republicans and Democrats alike, like Bush, are enjoying growing a vagina. The feminization of American men continues under the communist rule of the public school system.The last laugh will be had by conservatives if the muslem (scum) caliphate does come to America in that they can watch the left get to know their "new friends." How many bathhouses are in the middle east?

What's my oil doing under their soil?

Is this putz swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool or what? :roll:

thx1138
11-28-2007, 02:50 AM
Radiation tends to be blown about in the wind. Eventually a lot of it will turn up here in North America adding to the environmental toxins. That doesn't seem to bother q1a2z3. Perhaps he has a death wish.

arnie666
11-28-2007, 03:10 AM
I don't think Bush is any worse than most modern day politicians. They are all slimy backstabbing ,megalomancial , psychopaths. Whether they be left wing, right wing , communist or fascist. It is just depending upon your political persuasion some are more palatable than others. Bush can just cause more havoc because he is the leader of the most powerful country in the world... for now.

I do in fact vote but I don't trust any of them. They are all the same to me scum.Just different colours. They all fuck you ijn arse in the end.Just some use lube and give you a reach around. And others go dry. Blair is the later... The man and others like him should be shackled and hung for treason. .

Oli
11-28-2007, 04:45 AM
What's my oil doing under their soil?

What's their money doing in your wallet?

Asshole

thx1138
11-28-2007, 11:06 AM
Abu Dhabi just bailed out Citibank. Apparently some Arab states have humaintarian instincts.

q1a2z3
11-29-2007, 07:57 AM
AIDS is a disease where the immune system can't tell friend from foe. The left has the same problem, they can't tell friend from foe. Considering the "hobbies" represented on this site you would think they could get a clue as to who the enemy is. Bush is not a Hitler. The muslem world is the Hitler trying to take over the world. "Monkey boy", the president of iran is far crazier than Bush. The muslem world backed germany in two world wars and lost big time. Arafat had ties to the nazis.

The U.S. state department has one policy, maintain stability across the globe - regardless of who is being enslaved. It's perfectly OK if sadam was gassing Kurds. The left in our congress has tried their best to reduce the power of the President by trying to make departments in the Executive branch independent of the President! U.S. state department retirees go to work for saudi arabia as contractors. What information are they passing on? saudi arabia spreads the filth of wahhabism across the world and Bush calls them our "friend." This is crap!

Bush and his gang of globalists are after one thing, cheap labor. The left should focus on organizing unions across the globe to stop cheap labor. Bush and his gang of idiots would love to have people working for scrapes from the dumpster. America has the best of everything including citizen rights, human rights, free speech, etc... And America gets better every day.

Rogers
11-29-2007, 10:45 AM
I detect considerable backsliding from Quite_A_Zealot. Looking for some friends are we? What a pussy!

AIDS is a disease where the immune system can't tell friend from foe. The left has the same problem, they can't tell friend from foe. Considering the "hobbies" represented on this site you would think they could get a clue as to who he enemy is. Bush is not a Hitler. The muslem world is the Hitler trying to take over the world. "Monkey boy", the president of iran is far crazier than Bush. The muslem world backed germany in two world wars and lost big time. Arafat had ties to the nazis.
I thought you said that,

...multiculturalism and perversity are the enemy.
That's exactly the same BS that comes out of Tehran. That would make you the enemy as well, q1a2z3. I'm perfectly capable of knowing who the enemies of a tolerant society are, and don't need any lessons from a retarded pussy thank you very much.


The U.S. state department has one policy, maintain stability across the globe - regardless of who is being enslaved. It's perfectly OK if sadam was gassing Kurds. The left in our congress has tried their best to reduce the power of the President by trying to make departments in the Executive branch independent of the President! U.S. state department retirees go to work for saudi arabia as contractors. What information are they passing on? saudi arabia spreads the filth of wahhabism across the world and Bush calls them our "friend." This is crap!
And invading Iraq in search of W.M.D.'s that weren't there is maintaining global stability is it? What YOU SAY is crap!


Bush and his gang of globalists are after one thing, cheap labor. The left should focus on organizing unions across the globe to stop cheap labor. Bush and his gang of idiots would love to have people working for scrapes from the dumpster. America has the best of everything including citizen rights, human rights, free speech, etc... And America gets better every day.
I thought you said that America was deteriorating, q1a2z3?

There may not be any real men left in America who can push the button. Republicans and Democrats alike, like Bush, are enjoying growing a vagina. The feminization of American men continues under the communist rule of the public school system.
So which is it, Einstein? Is America getting better or worse?

I think you had too much wine tonight, q1a2z3. Do us all a favor and fucking quit the incoherent, bigoted and retarded rants, pussy!

Quinn
11-29-2007, 09:00 PM
Modern day Hitler? No. The worst president of the post-war era? Yes, and that's saying a lot when you consider how phenomenally bad Carter was.

-Quinn

danaleigh
12-03-2007, 04:48 AM
i've not read what anyone else has put forth just throwing my two cents wroth in with a question .... i'll start with my question please define unwarrented deaths after the towers fell and all those innocent men and women died for just being americans the responce that came was way more controled then if i'd been left in the room with football alone for more the a few seconds now my opinon on mr bush's run as president he gets an A for effort a man can only do what he feels is right personally
to that end he's done a good job remember he grew up in the shadow of Ronald Reagan the single greatest leader the US has since in modern times if you know how the Reagan adminastration ended the cold war and you look at how mr.bush has approuch the war on terror you'll see the simulities as well as bushes own thumb print on the whole situation he didn't come to do battle nor dd he come to kill saddam the latter was just an opputunity that presented its self and could not be passed up evil men desevre to swing on a rope but i digress just cause his politics don't run completily with the goals of transgender rights is no reason to hate him if it wasn't for men like him we'd not be able to sit here and have this conversation nor could we even make our personal walk towards becoming female remember freedom is not free and we all could be put through shocks and averstion therapy insead of getting to dress like we choose and follow our hearts

danaleigh
12-03-2007, 04:48 AM
i've not read what anyone else has put forth just throwing my two cents wroth in with a question .... i'll start with my question please define unwarrented deaths after the towers fell and all those innocent men and women died for just being americans the responce that came was way more controled then if i'd been left in the room with football alone for more the a few seconds now my opinon on mr bush's run as president he gets an A for effort a man can only do what he feels is right personally
to that end he's done a good job remember he grew up in the shadow of Ronald Reagan the single greatest leader the US has since in modern times if you know how the Reagan adminastration ended the cold war and you look at how mr.bush has approuch the war on terror you'll see the simulities as well as bushes own thumb print on the whole situation he didn't come to do battle nor dd he come to kill saddam the latter was just an opputunity that presented its self and could not be passed up evil men desevre to swing on a rope but i digress just cause his politics don't run completily with the goals of transgender rights is no reason to hate him if it wasn't for men like him we'd not be able to sit here and have this conversation nor could we even make our personal walk towards becoming female remember freedom is not free and we all could be put through shocks and averstion therapy insead of getting to dress like we choose and follow our hearts

danaleigh
12-03-2007, 04:49 AM
damn it double posted that sorry folks lol

hippifried
12-03-2007, 08:01 AM
What a bunch of crap.

Oli
12-03-2007, 09:26 AM
i've not read what anyone else has put forth just throwing my two cents wroth in with a question .... i'll start with my question please define unwarrented deaths after the towers fell and all those innocent men and women died for just being americans the responce that came was way more controled then if i'd been left in the room with football alone for more the a few seconds now my opinon on mr bush's run as president he gets an A for effort a man can only do what he feels is right personally
to that end he's done a good job remember he grew up in the shadow of Ronald Reagan the single greatest leader the US has since in modern times if you know how the Reagan adminastration ended the cold war and you look at how mr.bush has approuch the war on terror you'll see the simulities as well as bushes own thumb print on the whole situation he didn't come to do battle nor dd he come to kill saddam the latter was just an opputunity that presented its self and could not be passed up evil men desevre to swing on a rope but i digress just cause his politics don't run completily with the goals of transgender rights is no reason to hate him if it wasn't for men like him we'd not be able to sit here and have this conversation nor could we even make our personal walk towards becoming female remember freedom is not free and we all could be put through shocks and averstion therapy insead of getting to dress like we choose and follow our hearts

Giving George Bush an A for effort nullifies anything else you have to say.
The man, for lack of a better word, is a catastrophe. Record budget deficits, a military divorced from the population and spread far too thin, partisan politics the like of which haven't been seen in generations, defunding of social programs, tension with our allies because of his "Your either with us or against us" stance, absolute neglect of climate change and his latest is an attempt to slash Homeland Security funding to major metro areas by $1,800,000,000 in 2009 (that's right, after he leaves office).

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jQ0Ao4X0-a32dSRsZ9upSawSrPdgD8T8VS000

This was in todays edition of the New York Daily (Toilet paper) News. This is how George and the Republican congress spent our limited Homeland Security funds last year.

My personal favorite is a $36,000 Homeland Security grant to the Kentucky Office of Charitable Gaming "to prevent terrorists from trying to raise money for their plots at the state's bingo halls."

"The potential there, to me, is huge," John Holiday of the Office of Charitable Gaming was quoted as saying.

Another personal favorite is a $3,000 Homeland Security grant to Converse, Tex., to purchase a "secure trailer" to ferry riding lawn mowers to lawn mower races. The races accompany the local volunteer fire department's annual barbecue fund-raiser.

"Souped-up lawn mowers topping speeds of 70 mph on a 150-foot track," an Internet tour guide reports. "This community truly comes together around slow-cooked barbecue and fast-paced lawn mowers."

And then there is the $7,348 grant to Columbus, Ohio, to buy 11 bulletproof vests for dogs.

"These aren't wooly sweaters we bought them to walk in the park," a Columbus fire official was quoted as saying in defense of the grant. "These are flak vests."

And how about a $3,500 grant to Modoc County in California for "small crate and kennels to hold stray animals"?

"When we have many stray animals, they may bite someone in fear or panic," a local humane society official has said.

There is also a $30,000 grant to Madisonville, Tex., for a "customized trailer" to be used at its annual Mushroom Festival. A town official said the trailer would be "a place where people can go if they get overheated or get lost or injure themselves."

Anyone with access to the Internet can check out the result of a $202,000 Homeland Security grant for 80 "downtown surveillance cameras" in Dillingham, Alaska, population 2,400. That equates to one camera for every 30 residents.

"Well, these terrorists won't win here!" a resident named Jillian said online. "Is this town turning into a reality show or what? Should I be auditioning or does everybody get on the show? Not even a streetlight, still have dirt roads, the local school is falling apart, but yet we have 80 surveillance cameras."

The Dillingham police chief, Richard Thompson, has said the invasion of privacy will be limited because his six-member department cannot monitor the camera feeds for hours at a time.

"We haven't got the time or the energy or desire," Thompson said.

You are entitled to your opinion, mine is George Bush is a terrible President.

q1a2z3
12-04-2007, 07:25 AM
Rogers needs a reading lesson. The state department did not invade Iraq - Bush invaded Iraq with the help of our military. The current state of America is OK, it was much better back in the 1930's but it is deteriorating, which is what we call a process. The process is continuing to some as yet unknown final state - probably to one where people think like rogers then it will be doomed. Bigoted? Rants? I have said nothing bigoted. Liberals want you to believe that Multiculturalism and Perversity exist to allow all viewpoints to be heard without judgment, unless they are conservative viewpoints. As for mental retardation, rogers couldn't run a fever much less contribute to a dialog. America is a tolerant society (too tolerant) and the enemy (the middle east) needs to be de-fanged. Meanwhile scholastics like rogers is running around with tinfoil on his head worried about Bush and the evil American empire.
Ha!

Night Rider
12-04-2007, 01:09 PM
America is a tolerant society (too tolerant)!

:lol: have you been sniffing glue?

Rogers
12-04-2007, 02:44 PM
Now we’re getting somewhere, q1a2z3, you’re now actually addressing the people that have taken the trouble to reply to you.

Rogers needs a reading lesson. The state department did not invade Iraq - Bush invaded Iraq with the help of our military.
The State Department sets and maintains foreign policies. It is the tool of the Executive and does its bidding. And since we’re trying to be so smart, q1a2z3, Bush didn’t “invade” Iraq either… ha!


The current state of America is OK, it was much better back in the 1930's but it is deteriorating, which is what we call a process.


And America gets better every day.
Shitting and thinking are processes also, q1a2z3, and going from what you’ve posted to date they seem to go hand in hand with you. And on your defecation goes,


The process is continuing to some as yet unknown final state - probably to one where people think like rogers then it will be doomed. Bigoted? Rants? I have said nothing bigoted.


multiculturalism and perversity are the enemy.
Bigot: a prejudiced person who is intolerant of lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own.
You’ve still not answered my question from way back, q1a2z3, what precisely is perversity?


Liberals want you to believe that Multiculturalism and Perversity exist to allow all viewpoints to be heard without judgment, unless they are conservative viewpoints.
“Multiculturalism and perversity” as you call them are in fact always understandable, q1a2z3. They’ve only been held in place in the past by fear. Just because you don’t understand why some people want to change their sex doesn’t mean there is not a good reason for it to occur. But then you do seem to know all about fear, q1a2z3, because you’re heart seems to be full of it… oh, the Moslems are after us, I’m sooo fucking scared… lets nuke them all, blah, blah, blah.


America is a tolerant society (too tolerant) and the enemy (the middle east) needs to be de-fanged.
De-fanged of what… some AK-47’s?
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=28079
Any logical person should be at least starting to think that the increasing hatred Moslems are showing to the West is largely down to the way that we have bullied them. Which side is the one with a massive nuclear arsenal, numerous bases around the globe, and a large fleet cruising up and down the Persian Gulf?


Meanwhile scholastics like rogers is running around with tinfoil on his head worried about Bush and the evil American empire.
Ha!
I’m as obsessed with Bush as I am with Moslems, i.e. not very. Someone once said that, “when you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy“. When that happens to a person they become a fanatic or zealot. I am neither. I’ll leave it to others to decide if you fit that profile, q1a2z3.
Creating the enemy
http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/0000000CA492.htm
Constitutional Law For Dummies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXz_x5-Xpb4

You’ve said about as much about Bush on this board in your measly 12 posts, q1a2z3, as I’ve said in 250.

Double ha, ya pussy!!!

g826665
12-09-2007, 12:37 AM
Bush and Hitler are similar in respect that they are both fascists. Both have rendered their respective legislatures useless(by force and capitulation) and are autocrats. If Bush decides to invade another country(Iran, Syria) the Congress will not stop him. There are no checks and balances left within the American system. He decides, Congress gives in.

The authorization to go to war with Iraq and the Patriot Act are worded in such a broad way that it gives him nearly unchecked power. Anything Bush chooses to do can done under the guise of National Security. The unitary executive didn't start with W, it has been a steadily evolving process since Harry Truman signed the National Security Act in 1945. But Bush has kicked the ball so far down the road to fascism during his term that there is very small likelihood of turning back.

Impeachment is the responsibility the Congress has to make sure the President upholds the laws of the Constitution, and they will not do their job as they watch what used to be a democracy crumbles.

CORVETTEDUDE
12-28-2007, 04:19 AM
The fact is he's been responsible for a huge amount of unesseccary deaths and hasnt acheived much in the progress....Do you think he has been successful as a presedent or not?????

Bush is most certainly not the best President we've elected. But to assume he is a 'Modern Day Hitler', is a bit over the top. You're on this forum flappin' your lips, aren't you?!

vegasboy
12-29-2007, 04:38 AM
When unserious threads like this are made about very serious issues it devolves into meaningless drivel. There are serious and honest ways of making the comparison or making a contrast. First of all it's unserious because the poll options are polarized and anyone who thinks Bush isn't Hitler is forced into choosing an option they find almost as abhorrent. This is straight out of the the Dubya playbook of you're with us or against us.

Second of all, the comparison shouldn't just be of casualty figures. You have to look at the internal politics within the country. Long before the Anschluss, Hitler and the Nazi party passed the Nuremberg laws. Actually, I think it was in 1935, two years after the Nazis were voted in by a plurality. This act effectively stripped a substantial portion of the population of citizenship rights and forbade marriages between Jews and Germans, based I believe on the notion that 1/4 Jewish was Jewish enough to delegitimize one as a citizen and as a human being. It wasn't merely chauvinism, but unadulterated racial pseuodoscience and an attempted genocide first on the Jews but eventually on the rest of the non-Aryan world.

You can also look at the death tolls. The casualty figures from the Nazi era are different from what we've seen from U.S policy. The deaths perpetrated by the Nazis were carried out with direct intent. It wasn't colonialism, or colonialism in practice but an attempt to first occupy and eventually exterminate every native population. This was not immediately obvious but everyone familiar with Nazi propaganda should know anyone not Aryan would have eventually gotten the axe if the Germans were successful. Many, if not most, of the casualties in Iraq have been the result of sectarian violence after the region was destabilized. Can you make the argument that they're still our government's responsibility? Of course, but there's still a major qualitative difference to be grasped.

I'm sorry, but the anti-Americanism of some is so reflexive that they're happy to discredit themselves in a serious argument. Hating George Bush and disagreeing with his policies does not mean you have to compare him to the Nazis and disgrace the millions they killed.