US Elections 2020

[blackchubby38]

Breaking News:

Amy Klobuchar is forced out...I mean takes herself out of consideration for Joe Biden's VP pick.

[blackchubby38]

I often heard that one of the things that Biden is going to have to answer for with black voters is his writing of the 1994 crime bill. So I decided to do a little research about it to see what he exactly needs to apologize for.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act

Just a quick overview, the only parts of the law that I have an issue with would be:

Fifty new federal offenses were added, including provisions making membership in gangs a crime.
Violent Offender Incarceration and Truth-in-Sentencing Incentive Grants Program

The feeling is that that last one may have led to an increase in the prison population. But it even seems that maybe open to debate.

So if I'm Biden, I concentrate on the positives of the bill and talk about the incidences that led to the bill being passed.

Two things I do find interesting is that bill passed the Senate 95-4 and the fact inmates used to be able to receive a Pell Grant for higher education while incarcerated. I couldn't even get a Pell Grant when I was applying for financial aid in the early 1990s.'

[broncofan]

Blackchubby,
thanks for posting that. I've heard Biden criticized for voting on that bill before but didn't know the provisions so I'll read it later. I have to say, punishing membership in any organization is usually suspect, even if it's a gang. It is something we do for terrorist organizations but generally we want to prosecute people for acts they've taken or particular conspiracies they've been a part of.

[blackchubby38]

Blackchubby,
thanks for posting that. I've heard Biden criticized for voting on that bill before but didn't know the provisions so I'll read it later. I have to say, punishing membership in any organization is usually suspect, even if it's a gang. It is something we do for terrorist organizations but generally we want to prosecute people for acts they've taken or particular conspiracies they've been a part of.

That part of the law really didn't make sense to me. Especially since if they wanted to prosecute street gangs as an organization, they could have done it under a RICO indictment.

[Laphroaig]

This is brutal but absolutely on the money...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1275081110897057795

[CaptainSteel]

Well i'm pro Trump.

[Laphroaig]

Well i'm pro Trump.

Better out than in...

[Stavros]

If the poll numbers get worse, he will resign, as he never loses. Then he can write a book about himself as the Greatest Undefeated President in the History of the World.

[KnightHawk 2.0]

This is brutal but absolutely on the money...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1275081110897057795

Completely Agree.

[Laphroaig]

If the poll numbers get worse, he will resign, as he never loses. Then he can write a book about himself as the Greatest Undefeated President in the History of the World.

What were the poll numbers before the 2016 election?

Sadly I don't think a Trump loss is a done deal yet by any means. Plus, if it's a close vote he'll claim corruption and probably have to be removed from the White House bunker, kicking and screaming "unfair", by the National Guard.