Four dipshits murdered a girl

[Laphroaig]

Completely off topic again

As far as I can see your "topic" was "Four dipshits murdered a girl......this should stop."

Ok then, back on topic.

Agreed. Anyone disagree with that? No, though not.

Carry on with the other conversations everyone.

[Dudedude12345]

As far as I can see your "topic" was "Four dipshits murdered a girl......this should stop."

Ok then, back on topic.

Agreed. Anyone disagree with that? No, though not.

Carry on with the other conversations everyone.

The topic is on the title, whats should be discussed is the murder of a transgender teen. It became a gun debate when somebody made a dumbass statement about Vegas that triggered gun nuts. I meant these transgender murders has to stop because if they cant accept that other people exist. Life isn't about you

[James neville]

Mental, I'm going to discuss gun control and civil liberties on what is basically a transgender porn and escort site...

A suggestion over here in the UK is along the lines of what we have already. If you own a firearm you have to take out third party insurance. This kicks in when you shoot someone or if your firearm is used to shoot someone else (you for example) so all medical and in the worst case scenario, funeral costs, are covered or contributed to. Its utterly mad that you have a right to own guns but not a right to free medical care. Totally nuts.

Yours, a UK based gun owner (and insurance holder!)

[Aticus100]

Life isn't about you

Without wishing to be pedantic, yes, it literally is about me.

[tacocorpv2]

The topic is on the title, whats should be discussed is the murder of a transgender teen. It became a gun debate when somebody made a dumbass statement about Vegas that triggered gun nuts. I meant these transgender murders has to stop because if they cant accept that other people exist. Life isn't about you

Well the problem here is that I can't really do anything about this matter, because me (nor the people that are in my circles) would ever hurt a woman, ts or otherwise. As for these others I can't really answer for, I mean not only that, the world is full of rapists, murderers of random people, burglars, people that should be in mental asylums and so on. To be honest, I rather avoid watching the news because it's too much negative.

[Telvin]

Well the problem here is that I can't really do anything about this matter, because me (nor the people that are in my circles) would ever hurt a woman, ts or otherwise. As for these others I can't really answer for, I mean not only that, the world is full of rapists, murderers of random people, burglars, people that should be in mental asylums and so on. To be honest, I rather avoid watching the news because it's too much negative.

You cannot even say that. I thought the same thing, no one in my circle of friends or family would be a pedophile, at least not until my cousin was charged (and convicted) with sexually assaulting his two boys. You cannot speak definitively about anyone else in this world but yourself. If there was anything I learned in my life (and career) is that anyone, and I mean anyone, is capable of doing the unthinkable given the right set of circumstances.

[sassygirl]

Driving is a privilege owning a gun is a right. The AR-15 isn't evil people are. Lots of people defend themselves and their families against evil with AR -15's . It's a dangerous world. One must protect themselves.im sure anybody in Orlando wished at the least for somebody with a gun.
There will always be evil in the world the latest mad man could have easily loaded a truck with explosives and killed thousands.

[Dudedude12345]

Driving is a privilege owning a gun is a right. The AR-15 isn't evil people are. Lots of people defend themselves and their families against evil with AR -15's . It's a dangerous world. One must protect themselves.im sure anybody in Orlando wished at the least for somebody with a gun.
There will always be evil in the world the latest mad man could have easily loaded a truck with explosives and killed thousands.

Cry me a river, some of the people in Vegas were armed (including the performers) and none of them did shit. One of the performers said that his bands crew were licensed and stocked firearms in their bus yet they hid just like those who were unarmed. Spare me the NRA BS and im ending this whole gun debate on this thread

[filghy2]

The logical contortions of the gun nuts would be hilarious if this wasn't so serious. The same right-wingers who are normally strong law and order types turn around and argue that evil is not something that can be regulated. The same 'logic' would imply that we should not outlaw bombs, because 'bombs are not evil people are', and if they didn't use bombs they would find some other way to kill.

The facts are that the rate of gun ownership in the US (relative to population) is 4 times higher than in any other advanced country, and the rate of gun homicides is also at least 4 times higher. Compared to most countries the disproportion is even larger. Is that just a coincidence, or does it tell you that more guns makes things more dangerous not safer? The level of danger is not something that cannot be changed - it is a result of laws and attitudes.

[tacocorpv2]

Cry me a river, some of the people in Vegas were armed (including the performers) and none of them did shit. One of the performers said that his bands crew were licensed and stocked firearms in their bus yet they hid just like those who were unarmed. Spare me the NRA BS and im ending this whole gun debate on this thread

To be fair a handgun wouldn't be of any use in that situation and could even do more harm than good, ~400 yards and 32nd floor (so ''uphill''),you do the math.

As for Telvin, I guess you're right, one can be 100% sure only about him/her self. Well, if everyone was like me, there would be no reason for anyone to carry a gun. All the big factories would go out of the business
But yea, I am not sure we can change this kind of thing from happening ( I mean the murders)