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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    HARD4JANIRA REFUTE THIS IF YOU CAN!!!!

    According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 910,200 of the men and women behind bars last year were black, 777,500 were white and 395,400 were Hispanic.

    In 1997, about 9 percent of the black population in the U.S. was under some form of correctional supervision compared to 2 percent of the white population and over 1 percent of other races.

    Blacks were two times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.

    But those numbers count only those who were jailed for a crime. In 2003, more than twice as many whites as blacks were arrested and charged with a crime, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports.

    Of 9.5 million offenses charged, 6.7 million whites were arrested, compared to 2.5 million blacks.

    The most common crimes were drug abuse violations, resulting in arrest of 770,430 whites and 381,006 blacks.

    Whites were far more likely to be arrested driving under the influence. Of 998,035 total offenses, 877,810 of those arrested where whites.

    Blacks, meanwhile, were more than twice as likely as whites to be arrested for gambling, 5,153 to 1,964.

    And while blacks comprise about 13 percent of the population, they were charged with most of the robberies, 40,993 compared to 33,070 for whites, and nearly as many homicides--4,395 black and 4,454 white.

    Whites outnumbered blacks about 2-1 in arrests for other crimes, including rape (11,766-6,114), aggravated assault (203,076-103,697), burglary (143,889-103,697) and larcey/theft (556,215-233,806.)

    Whites also were most often arrested for motor vehicle theft, arson, other assaults, fraud, embezzlement, dealing in stolen property, vandalism, weapons charges, prostitution, sex offenses, crimes against families and children, liquor laws, drunkenness, disorderly conduct, vagrancy, curfew and loitering, suspicion, as runaways and all other offenses not including traffic.



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    Lightbulb THE FBI does not have the state of the art voice analysis technology ZIMM LIED!

    THE FBI does not have the state of the art voice analysis technology ZIMM LIED!

    look below!
    *two forensic voice identification experts

    *"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence

    *Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.









    Quote Originally Posted by AmyDaly View Post
    ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - An FBI expert found crucial evidence in the Trayvon Martin case was inconclusive, saying it was impossible to tell if the voice screaming for help belonged to the black Florida teenager or his shooter George Zimmerman just before the neighborhood watch captain pulled the trigger.

    joe oliver exposed as fraud (Trayvon Martin case)






    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ated-community





    Quote Originally Posted by natina View Post
    Zimmerman lied claiming he was the one hollering for help a witness collaborated it then...






    after information leaked that the voice forensically analyzed and it wasn't Zimmerman hollering for help the witness took back there story that it Zimmerman hollering for help Zimmerman caught in a lie cause he did not know the incident was being recorded on 911 tapes


    * ZIMMERMAN IS A LIER
    * ZIMMERMAN LIED ABOUT CRYING FOR HELP
    ** ZIMMERMAN LIED ABOUT CRYING FOR HELP HE DID NOT KNOW THE INCIDENT WAS BEING RECORDED

    Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims

    lies coming back to haunt you and destroy your defense zimmerman

    Trayvon Martin case 911 call: Screams not George Zimmerman's, 2 experts say

    The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.

    "The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
    Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.




    The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.

    "The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
    Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.
    The conclusions of Owen and another audio expert were first reported by the Orlando Sentinel on Saturday.
    Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims the shooting was self-defense.
    The 911 call, reposted in this YouTube clip, came on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.
    In the recording of her phone call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.


    Key witness in Trayvon Martin shooting changed story
    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ged-story?lite

    Mary Cutcher, Witnesses in the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman Shooting


    Witness in Trayvon Martin murder fingers police


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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Wouldn't it be wonderful, if the notion of race did not exist. If it was against the law to track and report a person's race either by the government or private enterprise?

    I would love to see a movement to do away with race categories, so we can get on with the business of just getting along. Especially, with all the mixed race people in the world, President Obama included. To be exact, he is not our first black president he is our first mixed race president. But, if race wasn't an issue, he would be known as our first president from Hawaii. Wouldn't that be refreshing?



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    You know how I know it was Trayvon yelling because instantly when the shot went off the yelling stopped, I mean instantly, and being Trayvon was the one shot, it was him. If it was Zimmerman you would of heard a little bit more screaming and it would of been calming down it wouldn't have automatically shut off like that because Zimmerman was alive. A witness said he he/she saw Zimmerman he was just over Trayvon, not saying nothing with his hand on his head. If it was really Zimmerman he would of made more noise and he would of been scrambling than what the witness said.

    Remember John as they called him was the one who said she closed his door and ran for the phone, that's the one that closed his door and you hear the first pop noise. He was standing ground level when that went down, I believe he could of seen who threw he first punch.


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    Lightbulb Tim Wise on the "Dominant Historical Narrative"

    Tim Wise on the "Dominant Historical Narrative"
    http://redroom.com/member/tim-wise/m...ical-narrative

    Tim Wise on the Creation of Whiteness
    http://redroom.com/member/tim-wise/m...whiteness-clip

    Tim Wise on White Privilege
    http://redroom.com/member/tim-wise/m...ivilege-teaser



    Quote Originally Posted by jamesedwards View Post
    HARD4JANIRA REFUTE THIS IF YOU CAN!!!!

    According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 910,200 of the men and women behind bars last year were black, 777,500 were white and 395,400 were Hispanic.

    In 1997, about 9 percent of the black population in the U.S. was under some form of correctional supervision compared to 2 percent of the white population and over 1 percent of other races.

    Blacks were two times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.

    But those numbers count only those who were jailed for a crime. In 2003, more than twice as many whites as blacks were arrested and charged with a crime, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports.

    Of 9.5 million offenses charged, 6.7 million whites were arrested, compared to 2.5 million blacks.

    The most common crimes were drug abuse violations, resulting in arrest of 770,430 whites and 381,006 blacks.

    Whites were far more likely to be arrested driving under the influence. Of 998,035 total offenses, 877,810 of those arrested where whites.

    Blacks, meanwhile, were more than twice as likely as whites to be arrested for gambling, 5,153 to 1,964.

    And while blacks comprise about 13 percent of the population, they were charged with most of the robberies, 40,993 compared to 33,070 for whites, and nearly as many homicides--4,395 black and 4,454 white.

    Whites outnumbered blacks about 2-1 in arrests for other crimes, including rape (11,766-6,114), aggravated assault (203,076-103,697), burglary (143,889-103,697) and larcey/theft (556,215-233,806.)

    Whites also were most often arrested for motor vehicle theft, arson, other assaults, fraud, embezzlement, dealing in stolen property, vandalism, weapons charges, prostitution, sex offenses, crimes against families and children, liquor laws, drunkenness, disorderly conduct, vagrancy, curfew and loitering, suspicion, as runaways and all other offenses not including traffic.



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    Lightbulb Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    2 forensic experts will testify that it was not George Zimmerman crying for help. THE ONLY OTHER REASONABLE EXPLANATION IS THAT ITS trayvon martin screaming for help

    Zimmerman lied claiming he was the one hollering for help a witness collaborated it then...


    after information leaked that the voice wforensicallyaanalyzedied and it was nZimmermanman hollering for help the witness took back there story that it wZimmermanman hollering for heZimmermanerman caught in a lie cause he did not know the incident was being recorded on 911 tapes


    * ZIMMERMAN IS A LIER

    * ZIMMERMAN LIED ABOUT CRYING FOR HELP

    Mary Cutcher, Witnesses in the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman Shooting


    Witness in Trayvon Martin murder fingers police


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesedwards View Post
    You know how I know it was Trayvon yelling because instantly when the shot went off the yelling stopped, I mean instantly, and being Trayvon was the one shot, it was him. If it was Zimmerman you would of heard a little bit more screaming and it would of been calming down it wouldn't have automatically shut off like that because Zimmerman was alive. A witness said he he/she saw Zimmerman he was just over Trayvon, not saying nothing with his hand on his head. If it was really Zimmerman he would of made more noise and he would of been scrambling than what the witness said.

    Remember John as they called him was the one who said she closed his door and ran for the phone, that's the one that closed his door and you hear the first pop noise. He was standing ground level when that went down, I believe he could of seen who threw he first punch.



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by fastingforlife View Post
    Wouldn't it be wonderful, if the notion of race did not exist. If it was against the law to track and report a person's race either by the government or private enterprise?

    I would love to see a movement to do away with race categories, so we can get on with the business of just getting along. Especially, with all the mixed race people in the world, President Obama included. To be exact, he is not our first black president he is our first mixed race president. But, if race wasn't an issue, he would be known as our first president from Hawaii. Wouldn't that be refreshing?
    I like how you threw that PRESIDENT FROM HAWAII in there lol You gotta prove that buddy.

    What you said is nice, I like it, and it was like that back in Africa being that's the place of civilization. People were not scene based on their complexion though they loved their complexion due to the science and the sun. They primarily went by Nation as a sovereign place and by personal names. Personal names would basically be given to carve out a wonderful character for you and some times wretched names also, mostly good names.

    Racism makes money in the capitalistic country, the govt want it like this because of how they began their constitution with Mulatto and Quad Mulatto and one drop blood rule and all that bullshit. That's how white supremacy works they are not trying to be lumped into one, they feel they are better and it should be a category of who's who. That's the realism of it, what you are talking once happened and it's gone due to slavery and racism.



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Yep Natina Mary Cutcher is saying basically what I am saying, it's common sense, yet the police didn't even want her FACTUAL AND LOGICAL statement, that's why I don't trust shit they say!!!



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    Default Re: Tim Wise on the "Dominant Historical Narrative"

    See Natina, what did I say? Didn't I say Caucasians are not white people that when they came here they were known as Christians and white became a status classification identity prop? And Africans never called themselves black, that's why I don't use that term, I gave the break down of it and I wish my people would stop using that term BLACK.

    Great video I seen him back in the day, now people it's coming from a Caucasian and he's right they were fighting each other in Europe, ala Russia Caucus Mountains. These people here have no idea what type of knowledge I have a lot of these racist are ignorant to the bone, literally!!

    Quote Originally Posted by natina View Post
    Tim Wise on the "Dominant Historical Narrative"
    http://redroom.com/member/tim-wise/m...ical-narrative

    Tim Wise on the Creation of Whiteness
    http://redroom.com/member/tim-wise/m...whiteness-clip

    Tim Wise on White Privilege
    http://redroom.com/member/tim-wise/m...ivilege-teaser



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Once the two forensic experts show it wasn't Trayvon it's a wrap for Zimmerman!!! Because that will show he lied and if you lie one time your credibility is shot!!! So now they are working on getting old footage of Tray in his high pitch sounds like playing football or some sport or just playing around yelling. See they not going to get in court and the defense ask them did they do a test on Trayvon and they say no, they will be able to say yes. They are doing that now.



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