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    Default Re: Usama bin Laden is dead

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    Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:08 am


    Race is an old concept that should probably be discarded. It was

    created by people who had a very limited knowledge of their world. If you

    look at any genetic map (mitochondrial or Y chromosome DNA), you can

    see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian

    race.

    Here's a nice map

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    Quote Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel View Post
    Are you smoking crack?? There's no 'spin' on this one. BHO iced OBL. Something nine years of Bush/Cheney couldn't manage to do.

    Already I can hear the arguments, 'killing OBL isn't THAT big a deal.'

    Turn on a TV. People have been celebrating in front of the WH since 12AM. The FUCKING STOCK MARKET ticked up with news of OBL's murder!!!

    U.S. Navy SEALS put a bullet through Bin Laden's dome and dumped his body at sea.


    WIN.
    Clinton couldn't do it either.



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    Why is natina posting vast swathes of material on race in a thread that I thought was about Osama bin Laden? Way too much to read but shouldn't it be a thread of its own.

    Offer us a two or three sentence summary of what this about natina - please?



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    Natina/TS Brenda is incapable of offering a two or three sentence summary



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    Default Re: Usama bin Laden is dead

    According to a former CIA guy interviewed on the BBC today Clinton didn't really want to catch Bin Laden out of concern for US image at the time. Bush couldn't - though they say that the US Government knew about this location four years ago, but the operation to kill him took a long time to plan in detail.



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    Default Re: Usama bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
    According to a former CIA guy interviewed on the BBC today Clinton didn't really want to catch Bin Laden out of concern for US image at the time. Bush couldn't - though they say that the US Government knew about this location four years ago, but the operation to kill him took a long time to plan in detail.
    I thought in a Clinton interview with someone from Fox News that he wanted to capture/kill bin Laden. He had intel on bin Laden, but just couldn't do it.



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    Lightbulb Re: Usama bin Laden is dead

    This neocon tj347 posted this below,thats why

    Quote Originally Posted by tj347 View Post
    can someone please explain to me how he is an african american? I've been trying to understand that for years. His mother was a white woman, his father was a black african... You know, i suppose that does make him an african american actually, but if that's the case then we need to find another name for everyone else currently called an african american. I'm just going to call myself a black american from now on so that there's no confusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by prospero View Post
    why is natina posting vast swathes of material on race in a thread that i thought was about osama bin laden? Way too much to read but shouldn't it be a thread of its own.

    Offer us a two or three sentence summary of what this about natina - please?



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    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Sadly it isn't. While the presence of large numbers of US and other nato forces in Afghanistan serves two purposes - one to attempt to stabilise a country that has successfully resisted every previous attempt to do so, so good luck with that one, and secondly it means that there are forces available in the region should the situation in Pakistan fall into anarchy or worse. In my view this event potentially changes all the political undertakings to withdraw by 2014.

    Walking away now, however emotionally desirable, would be like pouring petrol on the flames
    Unfortunately, despite my earlier post, I am aware of that. In fact, it is quite possible that if we had stayed around after semi-covertly helping them push the Soviets out of there, bin Laden and his merry band would never have even existed. I am well aware that we are going to be stuck in the region for the foreseeable future if for no other reason then to prevent a disastrous war between Pakistan and India.

    Then again if Mayans are correct, withdrawal by 2014 becomes a moot point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDF View Post

    Then again if Mayans are correct, withdrawal by 2014 becomes a moot point.
    The Mayans didn't predict their own demise, so their record as forecasters is shaky to say the least lol.


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    Default Re: Usama bin Laden is dead

    It is strange this thread has taken on a different tone. From Osama to Politics to Race to future predictions.

    Personally, I feel some redemption over his death. Having deployed 4 times (twice to Iraq) it is as if all that hard work is now justified. Actually, I had given up hope he would ever be caught/found. However, I just continued to do my duty because that is what soldiers do.

    I am not sure what will become of this. Do I feel safer? I never felt unsafe anyway.

    As for politics, my boss is the Commander and Chief, whoever that may be, and my job is to carry out his orders. I have no political leanings, just that the guy in charge do a good job. And I am happy Bin Laden is dead.

    Obama will get the credit for this operation for sure, and so he should. He is the one who authorized the operation.

    On a humorous note, I too cannot believe that I found out about Bin Laden's death on Hung Angles. To me that is kind of crazy.

    Take care all.



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