Am i the only one

[FIRSTTIMER]

I have more respect for the thug being dicked down on the regular over dudes like the OP any day

At least they know who they are and what what they like,right?

[Birgitta]

Lol i like vanessa's humor and attitude, its inspiring and uplifting, and i do think she is right, its 2011, and we are much more known and emancipated now, we have the right to want respect and wit from lovers, we dont have to put up with being treated like a dirty little secret anymore lol

[Birgitta]

probably enough for you to see that your world view is far too simplistic



the issue was never with who you choose to bed with but with how judgemental you are about anyone who you choose not to and the women that choose to bed with aforementioned guys

I called it gay, perhaps thats judgemental in your eyes but it is not in my eyes. I feel perfectly fine if someone called me gay while it would be more appropiate to call me straight....

My thoughts about what a straight men is, differs from yours. And i may feel like a woman, even be a woman in heart and soul, im rational and playfull enough to accept that for some i am not...i respect how they feel about it, why cant you have respect for the way i feel, without calling me judgemental or getting angry about it.

In my eyes a straight men will never ask me to fuck him, a straight men also shows little to no interest in my genitals...what i am saying is that i believe in gender and sexual identity, and that in my eyes we are not just dealing with personal preference in these matters

[TsVanessa69]

At least they know who they are and what what they like,right?

To me thats the definition of a REAL man.

[TsVanessa69]

I called it gay, perhaps thats judgemental in your eyes but it is not in my eyes. I feel perfectly fine if someone called me gay while it would be more appropiate to call me straight....

My thoughts about what a straight men is, differs from yours. And i may feel like a woman, even be a woman in heart and soul, im rational and playfull enough to accept that for some i am not...i respect how they feel about it, why cant you have respect for the way i feel, without calling me judgemental or getting angry about it.

In my eyes a straight men will never ask me to fuck him, a straight men also shows little to no interest in my genitals...what i am saying is that i believe in gender and sexual identity, and that in my eyes we are not just dealing with personal preference in these matters

when a man has sex with me he see's me as a woman not a man. so how did that make him less straight? or are you saying you are less of a woman than a female?

[Birgitta]

when a man has sex with me he see's me as a woman not a man. so how did that make him less straight? or are you saying you are less of a woman than a female?

Not less of a woman but different though. I think most truely straight men will not be able to deal with the idea that i was born male let alone enjoy my genitals.

I like men and men only. I dont like a guy with womans clothes on him, i dont like a guy that looks to feminine, i dont like guys with a pussy and i dont like guys that want to bttm for my natural genitals.

If i did like any of those things i would not call myself straight lol

[rockabilly]

I can see you as a woman and enjoy your body alot Gitta.

[robertlouis]

Not less of a woman but different though. I think most truely straight men will not be able to deal with the idea that i was born male let alone enjoy my genitals.

I like men and men only. I dont like a guy with womans clothes on him, i dont like a guy that looks to feminine, i dont like guys with a pussy and i dont like guys that want to bttm for my natural genitals.

If i did like any of those things i would not call myself straight lol

Well said, Birgitta. One of the things that has bugged me about this thread from the outset is the constant and unwanted imposition of one set of sexual values on another person simply because of that person's combination of gender outlook and genitals. I would never try to impose my set of sexual preferences on a partner - surely this is about simple respect for another individual's integrity and what in essence makes for civilised relationships.

Yes, I consider myself "straight", (whatever that means lol), with a preference for topping if I'm with a tgirl, but essentially, tgirl or genuine girl, I'll always consider that person's preferences too and never insist on doing things "my way". It's only fair.

[onmyknees]

Yeah its fucked up to expect the guys i date with to be open and honest about their sexuality...i lived full time as a gay boy and do so now as a ts...if i liked pussy on male partners i would openly identify as bisexual, that the difference...
And if you ocassionally bttm for a ts but live a straight married wife you are not supporting any cause except for the wallet of the tgirl involved

You lived full time as a gay boy? And now you're a TS ??( scratches head) . Why do you think this is about suppotting a cause ? This is about sexual attraction.........pure and simple. You're pretty rigorous in your definations Brigitta. I'm fortunate I'm not bound by the same orthodoxy as you.

[GrimFusion]

Well said, Birgitta. One of the things that has bugged me about this thread from the outset is the constant and unwanted imposition of one set of sexual values on another person simply because of that person's combination of gender outlook and genitals. I would never try to impose my set of sexual preferences on a partner - surely this is about simple respect for another individual's integrity and what in essence makes for civilised relationships.

Yes, I consider myself "straight", (whatever that means lol), with a preference for topping if I'm with a tgirl, but essentially, tgirl or genuine girl, I'll always consider that person's preferences too and never insist on doing things "my way". It's only fair.

I disagree. The point of having GOOD sex IS imposing your set of sexual preferences on a partner and accepting theirs. I guess I just don't understand how someone could be so uncomfortable with themselves as to pass-up sex in whatever form. When life deals me a bad hand, I work with what I got, but I'm not exactly in Birgitta's shoes.