Black Transphobia and Homophobia...MCDONALDS beating

[joeninety]

save some for me !!

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[LittleGuy]

pmsl is there a reason why you are called little guy, you wouldn't happen to have the syndrome that goes with such an affliction..............

Hi gimmick account

[natina]

http://www.concordmonitor.com/articl...r-transsexuals


Committee votes 5-0 against rights for transsexuals


Backers of legal protections for transgender people mounted an all-out campaign for widening New Hampshire's anti-discrimination laws yesterday, holding a press conference to present personal cases, turning out en masse for a Senate hearing on the bill and excoriating opponents who weeks ago dubbed the measure the "bathroom bill."
But their late push appeared to fall short: The Senate Judiciary Committee voted unanimously, 5-0, to recommend killing the bill, which would forbid landlords, employers and others from discriminating against transgender individuals. The whole Senate will vote on the bill as early as Wednesday, along with a raft of other social issues.
The vote followed hours of emotional testimony, including from several transgender people - people born into one biological sex but who identify with the other - who said they live in fear of losing their jobs or worse when they go public with their struggles over gender.
Toni Maviki of Danbury choked up as she described being "harassed verbally and physically assaulted" by fellow Carroll County corrections officers who found out she was a man becoming a woman.
"I carried a badge, and I protected all you people, and there was no law to protect me from harm," said Maviki, who said she now works in law enforcement in Vermont.
Sarah Blanchette of Somersworth read aloud the letter she received from her company shortly after she told her bosses that she's transgender. "Upon consideration, you are immediately relieved of your duties," she read.
Opponents of the bill said they feared the bill would give carte blanche to predators or mischievous men to enter women's bathrooms or locker rooms. Several weeks ago, House Bill 415 burst on the public stage, with opponents, mostly Republicans, blasting it as the "bathroom bill."
"I am here in 2009 as a woman fighting for my rights," said Ann Marie Banfield of Bedford at the hearing yesterday. "Where are my rights? Where are my daughter's rights? I'm angry."
Others said the concept of gender identity as separate from biological sex violates their core beliefs.
"This bill actually discriminates against those who believe gender neutrality is morally wrong," said Rachel Robinson, a pigtailed ninth-grader from New Boston.
Supporters of the bill fought back hard against the "bathroom" label. Co-sponsor Sen. Martha Fuller Clark, a Portsmouth Democrat, said opponents had brought "the debate literally to the toilet by frivolously nicknaming this bill the bathroom bill."
"These objections are outright lies," Fuller Clark said. Of all the 13 states and dozens of municipalities that passed similar laws over the past three decades, she said, there's been "not one reported instance of bathroom miscontact."
Fuller Clark cited the fact that the New Hampshire Coalition Against Domestic and Sexual Violence had come out for the bill, and she read from a letter co-signed by that group and the New Hampshire Women's Lobby.
The letter read in part: "We are saddened by those individuals and groups that are deliberately misleading legislators and the public by creating an unfounded fear about women's safety in connection with this legislation. Not only does this scare tactic detract from the very real issues of violence facing women in New Hampshire, it also ignores the serious threat to personal safety that many transgender and gender non-conforming people in New Hampshire experience on a daily basis."
Betsy Janeway of Webster told senators that one of her five children may be transgender. "I have enormous fears for her and pray for her," said Janeway, whose husband, Harold Janeway, is a state senator. "It is dangerous that there are no laws protecting her."
She urged people to read up on the matter - "close the bathroom door and open the library door."
All five members of the Senate Judiciary Committee voted against the bill, although Democrats on the committee spoke in favor of protections for transgender individuals

Sen. Matthew Houde, a Plainfield Democrat, said the bill had been "horrendously mischaracterized as something other than a nondiscrimination bill." He voted against the bill, saying he thinks the New Hampshire Commission for Human Rights - which judges cases of discrimination against factors such as sex, race and religion - already has the tools it needs to help transgender individuals.
Commission Executive Director Joni Esperian disagreed, telling senators that there are no state laws protecting transgender people and that the commission has been able to take only some cases of transgender individuals on the basis of a 1986 court case.
"It is a thread by which only one sector of the transgender population can seek the protection of the commission," Esperian said.
http://www.concordmonitor.com/articl...r-transsexuals

[natina]

http://new.bangordailynews.com/2011/...tional-debate/


Bill on transgendered restroom use draws heated, emotional debate


Russ Dillingham | AP
Jennifer Levi, transgender rights project director for Gay & Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, addresses the Judiciary Committee Tuesday, in Augusta as they took up a bill to let businesses, schools and other agencies make their own decisions on who should use their restrooms and showers. Two adjacent rooms were filled with people on both sides of the issue patiently waiting to weigh in on the proposed bill

AUGUSTA, Maine — A bill concerning transgendered people’s right to choose which restroom they use generated heated debate at a public hearing Tuesday.
Dozens of people gave impassioned, emotional testimony on LD 1046, which would allow the operator of a restroom or shower facility to decide who can use which gender’s restroom.
The bill’s sponsor, Rep. Kenneth Fredette, R-Newport, served on the Maine Human Rights Commission when it decided that Orono schools and an Auburn Denny’s Restaurant discriminated against transgendered females by not allowing them to use women’s restrooms. Fredette vocalized his dissent against the ruling then and again at Tuesday’s meeting of the Legislature’s Judiciary Committee.
A transgendered person generally is considered someone of one biological sex who identifies himself or herself as belonging to the opposite gender.
According to Fredette, his bill would prevent the Maine Human Rights Commission from being able to find that public and private entities discriminate when they force transgendered people to use restrooms that correspond with their biological sex, but not gender. This then would prevent those transgendered people from suing, as the people in the Orono schools and Denny’s situations did, Fredette argued.
“The concept here is there is not an absolute right for a transgender to go into the bathroom they identify with,” Fredette said in front of the overflowing crowd Tuesday. “We have to draw lines in this society so we balance rights with the rights of everyone else.”
For example, he said, “What situation do we put young children in when they go into a private place and then what they perceive to be the person of the opposite sex comes into that bathroom? That could be quite shocking.”
But Tuesday morning Fredette was by far in the minority. During approximately four hours of public testimony, 30 minutes was taken up by the people supporting Fredette’s bill.
People against the bill argued the rest of the time that the measure would cause discrimination and force people who look and act like women to use the men’s room, which would make most people involved feel unsafe or uncomfortable.
Wayne Maines was one of the first to speak against the bill.
“Like many of you I doubted transgender children could exist,” he said. “However I never doubted my love for my child.”
Maines’ 13-year-old daughter knew she was a girl at age 6, even though she’d been born a boy, he said. She was happy and her friends accepted her. But by fifth grade things got scary and the family had to “go into hiding” to protect the girl.
“‘She came to me crying and asked, ‘Daddy, what did I do wrong? Daddy, please fix this.’ That’s what dads do, we fix things. I had to break her heart and say, ‘You have not done anything wrong sweetie, but Mommy and I do not know how to fix this,’” Maines said Tuesday, crying. “This bill places transgender children in a position of doom and hopelessness.”
Several organizations spoke against the bill, including the Maine Civil Liberties Union.
The bill puts businesses and schools in the position of “trying to figure out what someone’s biological sex is and if they’re wrong they open themselves up to liability,” said MCLU executive director Shenna Bellows. “It places the decision on the business owner and it places them in danger of legal action from all sides.”
While many people discussed the precarious situation of restaurant owners, Dick Grotton of the Maine Restaurant Association stood up for them.
Grotten took neither side of the argument.
“We need guidelines that we can follow that help us to not break any laws or break anybody’s rights,” he said to the judiciary committee. “Please, give us some direction.”
About 10 people spoke in favor of the bill, including Gov. Paul LePage’s legal counsel, Dan Billings.
“The governor’s position is that [the current regulations] really put businesspeople in a bad position with the law,” Billings said. “When they’re presented with one of these situations you have to presume the [transgendered] person is acting in good faith and if you don’t presume that you open yourself up to litigation.”
As Sydney resident Tim Russell said, “[Current law] has created a legal access that predators can use in order to accost women and children in public restrooms.”
“It is impossible for young children and women to safely determine whether or not the man — dressed as a woman — is a peeping tom, a rapist or a pedophile; and to continue to permit such a scenario to legally exist is unconscionable and inviting disaster,” Russell said.

http://new.bangordailynews.com/2011/...tional-debate/

[robertlouis]

You can be a bad knobhead regardless of race or colour. trust me having grown up in a 99% white area ...

Classic definition of equal opportunity, Sammi.

Let's get it on the statute book. Will you call Shiny-faced Dave or will I do it?

[natina]

Texas trans woman arrested for using female toilet



A trans woman in Houston, Texas, has been arrested after using a female toilet in a library.
Tyjanae Moore was arrested by police last Wednesday for “knowingly entering a restroom of the opposite sex” but trans groups say her arrest was unlawful.
Ms Moore said she told police she was in the process of transitioning.
She pleaded guilty to using an opposite gender restroom and was given credit for the two nights she spent in jail.
Speaking to Fox News, Ms Moore said: “I felt so belittled going to a jail over something so simple and stupid.
“When I came out, the female [officer] told me I wasn’t supposed to be and I asked if there was any particular reason why not. She said I’m a transgendered female and I was really shocked that they even stopped me for this.”
Trans groups say her arrest was unlawful because a city ordinance passed by Houston this year allows trans people to use the toilets which correspond to their new sex.
The ordinance says: “It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly and intentionally enter any public restroom designated for the exclusive use of the sex opposite to such person’s sex without the permission of the owner, tenant, manager, lessee or other person in charge of the premises, in a manner calculated to cause a disturbance.
Cristan Williams, executive director of the Transgender Foundation of America, which is based in Houston, said: “The arrest should have never happened.
“The City of Houston has given this victim explicit permission to use a restroom consistent with their gender.
“This means that the library patron was acting in a manner consistent with both state and local law. Since she broke no law, this is a case of unlawful arrest and imprisonment.”

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/11/24/texas-trans-woman-arrested-for-using-female-toilet/

[Willie Escalade]

Its all about the numbers.
What do they say?
The numbers say it all and there is no getting around that.
Its not about "portrayal" its about actions and attitudes.
Blacks have a BIG problem gays and trans people....
Im so sick of these fake and phony ass negros on HA ALWAYS coming up with excuses.
Blacks will NEVER denounce violence because we are violent.
Im saying it and its 1000 percent true and I dont care who doesnt like it.

Bullshit. The media is sure going out of their way to state that the attackers were black...and that's WITHOUT showing the video. On other reports I searched for where the attackers were not black, race was pretty much ignored.

And numbers can be skewed to gain the results you want. EVERYONE knows that. So fuck the numbers.

Plus, if I had problems with gays and trans people, I wouldn't be on this forum. Why would I? They're humans just like you and me. I can give a fuck about what someone does in their bedroom; as long as it doesn't affect MY well-being I don't care. But I DO care when people still decide to group in ALL people of a race, including those who try to live their lives in a good way. You think I like going out and being watched all the time? If I want something, I'll buy it; I don't have to steal anything. And no, I wasn't in a gang or anything; I know the chances you take and the results of being around that scene.

So don't give me that shit about blacks NOT denouncing violence. Violence isn't the only way to decide things. That's the fucked up thing about America. We just go to war without talking out our problems and trying to come to a solution. That's why this country has such a negative reputation. Not everywhere and everyone share this opinion though; I realize that.

And just as another poster said, ALL races are violent. Other countries have blood on their hands as well.

I signed the position, and I'm doing my part to let everyone else know about that position.

[onmyknees]

[QUOTE=sweet485;921622]The McDonald's beating of a transwoman is emblematic of a deeper cultural problem among a lot of Americans, but especially Black Americans. None of the negroes in the restaurant did anything to help the woman getting beat by the two savages.
From my personal experience, 95% of the time I get harrassed is by a black person, the rest is mostly latino fools trying to act like them. Homophobia and transphobia (not that they can even distinguish) is a serious problem among African-Americans. Enough of being politically correct and not say it like it is...Is not racist, is the fucking truth. Black people need to be taught how to mind their own fucking business and stay the fuck out of other people's sexuality or gender, and I don't see white people having as much problems as they do with minding their own fucking business.[/QUOTE

Yea...I saw the race of everyone involved, and anyone that protests to the contrary is straight up full of shit. It's an interesting question....not the way you framed it, and not on this forum, and you might have been better advised to ask the question if the African American communities have a history of intolerance against LGBT people, notwithstanding your problem with the harassment. I don't know the answer, but when you state the case as you did...undoubtedly it's going to be met with hostility...espicially with black folks, and frankly I wouldn't blame them for being offended.
Having said that, one must be on guard about sweeping in indictments about any particular race or religion. It takes work no question about it. The easy route is to traffic in those old stereotypes that every one of us is guilty of from time to time, me included.... but in thinking about the incident, I'm left with the impression that it's probably more about socio-economic conditions, education, upbringing, and ignorance than race.
Even college campuses once the headquarters of liberal tolerance are no longer safe. Ever hear about the incident at Seton Hall in NJ and the gay kid that leaped to his death after a You Tube of him surfaced? If I'm not mistaken the people that posted the vids were white and educated, so the issue of hate is as complex as the human brain. I still think it's more about upbringing that any other factor. If you're taught tolerance and respect as a child, it doesn't take Dr. Freud to tell me that chances are you're be more accepting of others sexuality, race and gender than if you were raised in a chaotic, violent, disrespectful, poverty ridden atmosphere.
I can't imagine this happening in Beverly Hills or Scarsdale NY, or the Hamptons or San Francisco...is that because those are largely white communities? I'm guessing not. It's because thier affluent, and education and affluence have a direct correlation. The race aspect of this incident cannot be overlooked to be sure, but all I'm saying is tread lightly. I don't know what the laws are in Maryland, but in many municipalities these slugs would be looking at a hate crime...regardless of the race aspect. And the by standers could have been protected by a statute similar to the Good Smaratian Law had they chose to come to the gurls defense, but they didn't. Shame on them, but I believe in karma...and thier day will come !

[giovanni_hotel]

If you don't think that same kind of attack could have happened on a Saturday night in a tiny redneck town in Alabama, Whites only, you're crazy.

If anything you should know being on HA, transwomen face more discrimination and public abuse than any other subset of the LGBT community.

The only difference between this attack and countless others that have happened in the past is, an idiot recorded the whole thing on his cell.

No recording and that story wouldn't have even made it into the local B'more news rag.

[arnie666]

It's obvious many people on HA hate black people. Most(if not all) ts don't see black men.

I don't hate Black people in fact I happen to like one or two ,although I must say going by the african americans on this site and other places I do find their attitudes quite amusing. And I have noticed with the black guys on here a real need to prove themselves'straight'. Making sure we all know they don't take it in the ass.In fact one or two do it in every topic.

But no,Gay bashing occurs in white communities as well. And please stop stereotyping just the rednecks, in england we had the case of a man who got beaten to death in london on the square because he dared to defend himself against homophobic language. But anyway, turns out according to the tranny the fight was over her talking to one of the girls boyfriends. That using the ladies bathroom story was told by the idiot who filmed it,obviously to try and show the tranny had bad character. (dirty pervert using the ladies toilet) etc etc. So it might not have been a gay/tranny bashing, or a hate crime at least because of her transexualism. but of course some are bad mouthing the victim now they find out she is a transexual. The police apparently are thinking of charging them with a race hate crime.