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    Problem? What problem?



    Ethiopia: Thousands of Muslims Rampage After Alleged Koran Desecration, Five Christian Churches Burned Down..

    Washington — International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that in the past two days, thousands of Muslims have razed five churches and the homes of two evangelists in Asendabo, Ethiopia. Christian leaders are asking for protection after the Muslim attackers continued burning churches even after the federal police were sent to the town.
    The Muslims started the attacks yesterday after falsely accusing the Christians of desecrating the Qur’an. More than ten thousand Muslims shouted “Allah Akbar” (Allah is great) as they burned down five evangelical churches. The government sent the federal police force to protect the Christians after the Muslims burned down the first three churches. The Muslims overwhelmed the police force and burned down two more churches today.
    Speaking with ICC, Christian leaders expressed their fear that Muslims will start killing the Christians unless the government sends more security forces to contain the Muslim attackers.
    At the time of the writing of this report, none of the Muslim attackers have been arrested. The government officials detained some Christians and took them to the nearby Jimma town stating that they need to do that for their own security.
    Ethiopia is a Christian majority country and was one of the first nations to accept Christianity. However, in the areas of the country where Muslims are the majority, Christians face attacks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by onmyknees View Post
    http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index...7-ca4e53848127


    From the ranking member of The Homeland Security Committe. Maybe Trish, Hippie and that other reprobate aren't all that concerned, but thankfully someone is.
    The above link undermines the point of your prejudice. Senator Susan Collins, Ranking Republican on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee said...” This plot is yet another example of radicalized extremists working to do us harm from within our borders.” Senator Collins is certainly not warning us that Muslims are despicable, nor is she making the claim that Islam preaches war, nor is she peddling any of the other bigoted shit that you're peddling. Walking into the capitol building and shooting the guards, flying a plane into an IRS building and blowing up a Federal building and a daycare center in Oklahoma are also acts of terrorism by radicalized extremists.

    I pay Senator Collins to be concerned. I'm happy to see her do her job and at the same time stay within the bounds of the rational behavior and the U.S. Constitution. I travel quite a bit in Europe and South America. I have an interest in the safety of airline travel (both from a security standpoint and a safety regulations standpoint). If there were a "scale of concern" I'd be more concerned my flight will crash because of a systems failure than because an explosion triggered by a terrorist on board. Being a black transgender woman, I'm have more concern about encounters with bigots with pickup trucks than any of the above concerns. Still, I'm not so concerned that I'm pissing my pants about it at every fucking opportunity. How many of these threads against Muslim's have you participated in to date??


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    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    One doesn't need a memo to tell you not to walk down a dark alley with a bunch of thugs are hanging out getting high, you just inherently know the deal...and you don't need a memo to know what this was.
    According to your reasoning, those evangelicals didn't need a memo to tell them not to settle in Muslim dominated Asendabo, Ethiopia. When you start treating people equally, we might start to take your arguments seriously.


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    I still haven't seen any evidence of an overt conspiracy with this Texas bozo. Interesting how under current political rhetorical silliness, it's a "plot" when a Muslim does it, but it's almost always a "lone wolf" when a skinhead klan/nazi does it.


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    Hippie how come so many people want to over throw your government.We don't have people wanting to commit terrorism in Australia except for tea towel heads.Is there something wrong with America?


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    Goes back to John Calhoun's nonsense & the southern rebellion. There's always a group of malcontents who want to force others to live by their ideology. Unlike some underpopulated hick outpost like upsidedownunder, there's over 300 million people here. Of course there's going to be some bozos who want to go backward & drag the country with them. They're a woeful minority. There's no actual support for armed rebellion in the US. We have an armed populace. Who's side do you suppose they'd take if these morons actually started shooting the place up?


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    Sorry hippie are these bozos and malcontents are bad because they are against your government or bad for what they believe in and what do they believe in?What should be done with these people?Shoot them or put them in re-education camps or psychiatric facilities or ship them off to the mines or prison?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hippifried View Post
    I still haven't seen any evidence of an overt conspiracy with this Texas bozo. Interesting how under current political rhetorical silliness, it's a "plot" when a Muslim does it, but it's almost always a "lone wolf" when a skinhead klan/nazi does it.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/03/tw...eda-group.html

    Guys like you are asleep at the switch, or in denial. ( see above link) Maybe it's burn out...I'm not sure, but you're ignorant, and your ignorance has beget danger.

    Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano ( both of whom I'm no fans of) have told us more than once that they, and thier departments are extremely concerned about home grown Islamic
    terrorism. But you....well you shrug your shoulders and light up another blunt. I was just watching the evening news...and there to my delight was a gathering in Times Square to protest Congressman King's upcoming hearings. There they were...the well intentioned, yet political neophyte Russell Simmons, The World Trade Center Mosque folks all singing the National Anthem. Strange but I have not seen that before. Where were they holding hands and singing after some of the Islamic attacks? Why do they fear King's hearings so much? We hear this term "moderate Muslims" all the time, but we don't hear the moderate Muslims. That is what Mr. King will be exploring.

    Here is what Mr. Holder said . I urge you to read it and get educated.......Seems he's worried, But some others on here.........Nah....what's the big deal ??.....they're just lone wolves. What...me worry ? Get your heads ouuta your asses !


    Attorney General Eric Holder: Threat of Homegrown Terrorism "Keeps Me Up At Night"


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    In an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder spoke of the ongoing fight to protect American national security and expressed his growing concern with the threat of homegrown terror - a danger which he said "keeps me up at night."

    "What I am trying to do in this interview is to make people aware of the fact that the threat is real, the threat is different, the threat is constant," Holder told ABC's Pierre Thomas, in an interview that aired Tuesday morning.

    "The threat has changed from simply worrying about foreigners coming here, to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens -- raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born," Holder added.

    The attorney general said that of 126 people who have been charged with allegations related to terrorism in the past 24 months, 50 had been American citizens.

    "It is one of the things that keeps me up at night," Holder said. "You didn't worry about this even two years ago -- about individuals, about Americans, to the extent that we now do. And -- that is of -- of great concern."

    Holder noted that while he was confident in the United States' counter-terrorism efforts, Americans "have to be prepared for potentially bad news."

    "The terrorists only have to be successful once," he said.

    Holder pointed to Anwar Al Awlaki, a radical Islamic cleric and dual U.S.-Yemeni citizen, as so dangerous as to be considered among the ranks of Osama bin Laden.

    "He would be on the same list with bin Laden," Holder said of Al Awlaki. "He's up there. I don't know whether he's one, two, three, four -- I don't know. But he's certainly on the list of the people who worry me the most."

    As a U.S. citizen, Holder said, Awlaki possesses a degree of familiarity with American culture that most foreign terrorists lack. And he has been a common link, Holder says, among many American-bred converts to al Qaeda-tied groups.

    "He's an extremely dangerous man," Holder said. "He has shown a desire to harm the United States, a desire to strike the homeland of the United States... He is a person who -- as an American citizen -- is familiar with this country and he brings a dimension, because of that American familiarity, that others do not."

    "The ability to go into your basement, turn on your computer, find a site that has this kind of hatred spewed ... they have an ability to take somebody who is perhaps just interested, perhaps just on the edge, and take them over to the other side," Holder added of Awlaki and his associates' ability to reach potential converts through the Internet.

    Holder dismissed criticism of recent FBI sting operations, which some have argued employed the use of illegal "entrapment," offering that "options are always given all along the way for them to say, 'You know what, I have changed my mind. I don't want to do it.'"

    "I have to have all those tools available to me to try to keep the American people safe, and to do the job that I'm supposed to do as a 21st century attorney general," Holder said. "We are doing everything that we possibly can to keep the American people safe...We are vigilant, we are doing everything we can to keep our homeland secure."

    When asked about WikiLeaks and the potential prosecution of Julian Assange, Holder said, "it's an ongoing investigation."

    "What Wikileaks did, at the end of the day, was harmful to American security, put American agents and properties ... at risk ... and I think for arrogant and misguided reasons," he said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by russtafa View Post
    Sorry hippie are these bozos and malcontents are bad because they are against your government or bad for what they believe in and what do they believe in?What should be done with these people?Shoot them or put them in re-education camps or psychiatric facilities or ship them off to the mines or prison?
    They're bad because they're stupid & too stupid to know it. They're bad because they want to cause the United States to become disunited, & broken into a bunch of independent countries with no commonality. They want to destroy the country by "Balkanizing" it. They want to create cultural separations where there aren't any & keep the States in perpetual conflict with each other. The klan/nazis are organized terrorists. The only difference between them & alQaeda is language & who they've chosen to hate & take their insecurities out on.

    But this is the USA, where it's not illegal to be stupid or even insane. You can pretty much talk all the smack you want as long you don't carry out the actions. This isn't Europe or the British Empire, where people get locked up for being assholes. We don't "grant" rights. The founding principle of the US is that rights are innate, & governance is just a tool for making things easier on the general population. Granted, fascism has taken a big bite of the general mindset, but I refuse to buy the idea that it's a consensus. It'll pass. There won't be a shootin' revolution, because we have the choice to overthrow the government every 2 years. The klan/nazis will continue to piss & moan. They managed to infest the teaparty movement, but that won't last. Basically, they're cowards. When the hype dies down, they'll crawl back under their rocks & hide like they always do when they return to the irrelevance they earned. Don't believe everything you see on the internet or the idiot box. In the end, all the ideology is horseshit as long as the founding principle remains.


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    The British empire! Hippie king George the fifth is dead and you guys won your war of independence.The British empire is over it no longer exists.


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