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Thread: Muslims
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02-16-2011 #71
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02-16-2011 #72
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Re: Muslims
Religion is often contemptible. But more often its just sad. But in the sense that they're all equally contemptible when they're contemptible and they're all equally sad, I co-sign as well ... with the stipulation that we let religion wilt of its own accord; i.e. of its own moral failure and its own contradictions with itself and with the world of verifiable facts.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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02-16-2011 #73
Re: Muslims
Look....I think the poll speaks for itself, and I think all the
controversy surrounding Juan Williams firing from NPR accurately reflects how many Americans feel, as does the poll numbers.............. and he's a black liberal, so save your right wing condemnation bullshit. The two groups you sight are far from some type of moral equivalency. There're hiding in the woods of Idaho for Christ sakes playing army. Look at some of the reputable polling outfits who have taken polls in even moderate Muslim countries like Saudi Ariba...they hate us. They teach it in their schools. Why the fuck is that so hard for some of you to understand? It's a fact. Ok OK ...here comes the obligatory disqualifier........."Not all, but Many" and certainly enough to kill a whole lot of us !! Those rednecks in the woods of Idaho might have a beef with the government, but I'm not worried about then for a second, as fucked up as they are. And save that Timothy McVey trump card you all love to use . Christians are being slaughtered in nearly every Muslim country on earth....do the research and get literate. If that fucker in Times Square wasn't such a clumsy fool, we'd of had hundreds of dead and maimed folks guilty of nothing but walking around NYC during the holidays. Do I hate all Muslims???? No...but I'm certainly apprehensive. As I've said on the other posts....the Blind Sheik ( convicted for his involvenment in the first World Trade Center bombing) was preaching hate and destruction from 3 mosques right in NYC !! If you feel better by calling me Islamaphobic....have at it, but I have a strong sense of self preservation.
If you got a beef with all religions....I get that, but don't try blowing smoke up my ass about Christians being equally as violent or corrupted as Muslims. When Muslims aren't killing other Muslims, they're plotting to kill us. Let's hope they stay preoccupied with each other ! We may have preists doodling little boys and they should be hung by thier thumbs, but they're not plotting to smuggle a dirty bomb into NYC as far as I can tell. Moderate and peaceful Muslims may have an unfair burden seperating themselves from the fanatics, but unless they do.....they're always going to be looked upon with caution. Where are all the moderate muslims speaking out by the way.....?
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02-16-2011 #74
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02-16-2011 #75
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02-16-2011 #76
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02-16-2011 #77
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02-16-2011 #78
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Re: Muslims
Where did the Provisional IRA get a lot of the money from to buy weapons and make bombs that killed men, women and children across Ireland, the UK and continental Europe many more times than we have been attacked by so-called Jihadis? How many people in the 1970s and 1980s viewed Irish people as terrorists simply because they were Irish and their name was Sean or Patrick or Mary, how many were arrested and beaten up by the police because they were Irish, imprisoned on dubious evidence and locked up for years because though innocent, they were Irish. And so on. Americans are struggling with all this because Oklahoma aside they haven't been used to dealing with acts of violence which sadly were all too common in the UK (and in the case of the Basque separatists in Spain); demonising everyone because of the actions of the few is part of the strategy of tension the radicals use, but the truth is that the Official and the Provisional IRA lost more support for a United Ireland than they every gained through their bombs and assassinations; the Palestinians lost years of sympathy because of their idiotic hi-jackings in the 1970s; al-Qaeda itself lost half its membership because of 9/11, and so on. We can do better than this, but its going to be a struggle.
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02-16-2011 #79
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http://newsblaze.com/story/200902211.../topstory.html
-- You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane
-- You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack
--You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack
-- You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack
--You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack
--You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack
--You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist
--You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack
-- You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack
SOURCE: The Progressive Review
Like someone else here said, there is nothing like the fear of some group taking over the world, to control ones own popultion. Now that the two biggest Communist nations are our friends, we need a new, threat to project our fears. So now we have the media to report from around the world, incidents of stupidy by people who are Muslims. Yes there some radicals out there, and some backward practices. But they are not trying to establish Sharia Law, in Oklahoma, despite what you may have heard.
The issues can be addressed, but not by giving away Palestinian land to Israel. Issues may seem that they're about religion, but deeper examination will show it's really about the usual failings in all humanity, greed for money and power, ethinic hatred, etc.
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02-16-2011 #80
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lol what... you mean exactly the same way that 'we' hate 'them'? polls in america would be anti islam so how is that different?
that number is tiny compared to the number of innocent muslim lives lost. not any less significant and each one is tragic... but we hate them for killing our civilians. it's not really any different from their people dying.
and that's really the main problem... people can't differentiate between muslims and terrorists. the extremists are a massive minority (in the context of the whole religion) who have a warped view of their faith. but as if there is no christian secs with fucked up views as well?
that is a decent point. i dunno... maybe some of them are scared. and from my experience religious people are the most hypocritical anyway. as i said before my dad is muslim, mum is christian... i don't agree with any religion and especially many aspects of islam. but i still know enough about it so say that the way muslim people are portrayed is not all true. the terrorists obviously are fucked in the head but i haven't met a single muslim person who condones them.
not really... public opinion really only depends on how the media portrays the story. and since the government owns the media i don't need to say any more. and listen i'm not taking sides or defending terrorist etc. i'm just saying it's not one side who is evil... that's on both sides and innocent people also suffer on both sides.
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