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    It's chemical/hormonal. Whether it's genetic or not is a matter of debate. Personally, I think it's more likely deveopmental in the womb. Regardless, none of it's cut & dry or definable. It's a matter of degrees across the board, with all kinds of social interference that changes the dynamics with each individual. If you put a dozen transexuals in a room, no 2 of them will agree on exactly what they're going through. Now multiply that by a couple billion people of every conceivable bent...

    Butt what the hell. Carry on. Maybe we'll all fully understand everybody else & be singing Kum-bi,y'all by page 27.


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    The whole concept of sexual orientation is problematic to begin with. No one is completely straight, or completely gay. We can all posture and pretend all day, but that is just the reality. Who gives a shit what anyone "is"? Why box people in? It only serves to a create a sense of "other" and divide us from one another.



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    I don't know. I have had gay friends who are not even remotely attracted to transsexuals and I have had straight friends (who never tried anything with a guy) who like transsexuals. The outside world view transsexuals and their admirers as part of the gay community, while people who are transsexuals and admirers do not see themselves as being part of the gay community. It all comes down to perception. Perception is reality.

    In my opinion, a person is gay if they like the same gender. Man liking another man is gay. A man liking a transman (who has a vagina) is gay. A man liking a transwoman is not gay.


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    i think it was the church god bless all them choir boys


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    By definition, what we do here is homosexual--- 2 dicks , same sex, homosexual. I don't like to hear that but that is the definition of the word. However, it's not necessarily GAY. Gay is something that occurs in the mind. It is not merely an act. Anyone can have a homosexual experience, but that doesn't define them as gay. Of course society will say otherwise, but society has a low median IQ.
    The transsexual is monkey wrench, the proverbial fly in the ointment. Throw on top of that the varying degrees of transition and you have a question that I don't think can ever be answered!! Is he gay if he likes post-ops? Pre-ops? Girls with pretty faces but manly bodies? Girls with manly faces but fem bodies? Part-timers? There are far to many variables for society to come to a consensus on when it's ok to like transsexuals. So it'll probably remain the concensus that it's never ok (you'll always be considered gay because that's much easier!)


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    I think Ashley that post on here said that any man that has sex with her is gay.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGuy View Post
    I think Ashley that post on here said that any man that has sex with her is gay.

    Dude, you're totally George Jefferson with a lobotomy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel View Post
    Why is that??

    You had written, "Again, a guy into Ts should really only be concerned with what a T thinks about YOU, no one else's opinion really counts much anyway."

    That's a fine and noble ideal, but not one to which you're even close to aspiring. You're one of the thinnest-skinned guys on here, so much so that if someone whispers COCKHOUND, you've got your hands on your hips and you're huffing and puffing. And you care too much what you're family thinks too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by libertyharkness View Post
    i think it was the church god bless all them choir boys

    lol.......



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    Quote Originally Posted by sucka4chix View Post
    By definition, what we do here is homosexual--- 2 dicks , same sex, homosexual. I don't like to hear that but that is the definition of the word. However, it's not necessarily GAY. Gay is something that occurs in the mind. It is not merely an act. Anyone can have a homosexual experience, but that doesn't define them as gay.


    Yeah that's an important point. Gay is not the same as homosexual.



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