what makes a person gay?

[Coroner]

Boring.

[giovanni_hotel]

That's funny.

Why is that??

[RubyTS]

@mari
and thats my point. Gender is black and white to society, male or female and nothing in between, therefore what is defined as being gay is blanketed and applied to all ts lovers, whether they like getting fucked or or dont even wanna see the cock, because we are genetically male. im not saying i agree with it, i dont feel that men who like ts women are gay, but i do understand why people who argue the opposite feel so strongly about it, and thats because TS women are recognized by society as male, no matter how cunt, how pretty, how passable she is, a person arguing that its gay will always say "but that's a man." Until Transexuals are recognized as a sex seperate from male and female, the majority of people will continue to maintain the frame of mind that liking tgirls is gay

[LaCosa]

as defined by the bible sodomy.

Actually I read something interesting on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy several days back.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity-politics/#5

Michel Foucault's work, especially his History of Sexuality, is the most widely cited progenitor of this view: Foucault famously argues that “homosexuality appeared as one of the forms of sexuality when it was transposed from the practice of sodomy onto a kind of interior androgyny, a hermaphrodism of the soul. The sodomite had been a temporary aberration; the homosexual was now a species” (Foucault 1980, 43).

[Mari_Mar]

I know what you're saying Ruby. But, the medical community already recognizes people that are transgender to be a variation within the gender binary paradigm that a majority of society wants to recognize. Researchers have found a gene that they believe to be linked to causing transexuality, and study of brain chemistry shows that a trans-brain works in a way as the gender that we identify ourselves to be.

I feel that it's only a matter of time before what the uneducated or uninformed masses want to believe, will change. You are a woman, and I believe that whole-heartedly.

[LaCosa]

I said this in another post...i think it really boils down to a lack of terminology. It doesn't really seem like the gay/straight dichotomy gives us the right tools to really discuss it.

I'm not sure if a lot of tgirls want to be considered a third sex. I can't really comment on it besides that it makes a little sense to me, especially considering those girls who want to live as women but don't want to get SRS (i'm not wrong in thinking there are girls like this, right?).

It seems clear to me that an attraction to tgirls is something different than an attraction to males...just what to call it, I have no idea. Queer, maybe?

I remember a mayor of a large suburb (> 100,00) of Rio de Janeiro proposed his town create a 3rd sex public restrooms to deal with the tensions between T-girls and biological women using the same public bathrooms. Apparently, the town had a waaaaaay many T-girls.

I don't think the thing ever picked up enough support to be implemented though.

[PomonaCA]

This a loaded question


A more tolerant question is "what makes a girl gay" etc

[LaCosa]

Being gay is more accurately defined as being sexually attracted to people who are your same gender. Gender is defined by more characteristics than just genitalia. So, I don't think it's correct to consider men who are attracted to transwomen as gay.

True. That's what my introductory sociology book stated in so many words.

[happychris]

I had a friend who said it "was only gay if the other guy cums"

[RubyTS]

i remember seeing something about that study, giselle xtravaganza took a part in it from what i remember. that was a while ago