Grooby Legal Action against Piracy ...

[Faldur]

Sure where u wanna go?

I know a great Italian joint in Bothell, authentic.. really cozy. Seeing how breakfast has past, we can do lunch.

[ELAGESE]

This can make a good scene:

Tranny knocks on door of geeky downloader and enters the his residence to punish him for downloading her work!

Now, who will be the first company to film this theme?

[BellaBellucci]

This is the last time I'll answer your questions as I'm not here to debate the issue and I've been pretty open about it all.

RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!



~BB~

[Trans-Promo]

The most enlightened comment yet. Thank you Danielle. I agree.

~BB~

We cannot forget what America is founded on after all. We give a little so that everyone gets a fair share. At least that is how it should work anyway.

Take North Korea for instance - they have no freedom or privacy at all. They have no choice as to watching porn or not - THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.

Our PRIVILEGE of choice is based on everyone pitching in equally - it is unwise to think anyone will comply with the constitution, however it is also unwise for them to think there aren't consequences for their actions.

We must make examples, create fear and warn those who harm us. We must take legal action against those who break the law so that we can make better laws, so that we grow not only as business people but as humans as well.

Stealing is one humanity's oldest sins - it is immoral as immoral gets. You are taking from another to benefit yourself - and your selfish secretive escapades.

We must protect our business as our rights as artists so that we can continue to produce.

I do this as a business but I do it because I like to do it - all drama aside - which is a lot to handle at times, we all do it because we love to, and we make money off of it.

I got into adult work for many reasons, and I have been in the business since before the internet, as a boy... so that is quite a while. When we actually send in out pictures to Newspapers and magazines to place ads.

My reasons are very basic:

1- I am an exhibitionist
2- I like the attention
3- Easy money that allows me to focus on transition and getting a better education
4- It feeds every actor's psychological need of being loved and cared for.

I would do it for free if you all payed my bills, but above all this is my job.

[deepthroater]

Danielle, I'm sure I've come across as confusing throughout this thread and my rambling replies. I do actually support the fight against piracy, especially sites that just blatantly host stolen content for their own profit at the expense of the originators.

I just feel quite strongly that suing casual filesharers for dissproportionate amounts of money under the guise of anti-piracy while ignoring the people actually responsible for depleting revenue is not going to solve anything.

Sorry if I've somehow added to your problems and reinforced a belief that no-one gives a shit.

[SmashysmashY]

Recording a television program for your personal use does not violate IP laws, when you start selling that tape or having public showings where you charge money for tickets and making merchandise is. There is nothing wrong with recording anything for your own personal use.

It's not considered a violation of intellectual property rights now, but at the time it was frowned upon. I already said that in my opinion artists should be credited and paid but that's not to be elevated above guaranteed popular rights. You seem to think I believe that artists should make things for everyone to have free of charge but that's not what I'm saying at least.

The only way you can stop copyright infringement is to end all private correspondence and that's not fair either. I'm suggesting that people try to meet these challenges in innovative ways instead of suing people which doesn't seem to work very well anyway.

There might be ways to capitalize off free distribution. For example, there are torrent sites that distribute copyright material, and these sites generate revenue but there's not a system for them to easily share that revenue directly with the artists.

Until then people should probably use irc to avoid being sued I guess.

[Trans-Promo]

Sorry if I've somehow added to your problems and reinforced a belief that no-one gives a shit.

Not at all darling,

I always say this: There are people on this earth who just populate, kinda like an ant farm. There are also those who have a higher understanding of life and their own existence, no matter how small or big their action is, they know there is always someone on the other end.

I come across a lot of assholes while in my public persona, however I know many many more personally, people who actually give a shit, not only for their own selfish needs ( that is human ) but for others as well.

At the end I have a higher existence because I give a shit and I don't internalize other's problems.

Not that this has anything to do with what this thread is about but I do care about your misguided understanding of me as a person.

[deepthroater]

This is the last time I'll answer your questions as I'm not here to debate the issue and I've been pretty open about it all.

No worries, I don't think I have anything to debate anyway. (Plus I can no longer read or write any analogies about apples without breaking into laughter). I do actually agree with you and if I was in your position I'd probably be doing the same. It sucks that it's the 'little guys' getting the punishment rather than the scrapers and cloners, but you're right they knew what they were doing and have no excuses.

I've got to say, I'm pretty impressed at how straight to the point and no bullshit you've been in discussing everything. I think you may have even talked me onto your side, maybe. I'm glad you called it like it is and didn't just try to spout talking points that the defendants have actively and specifically cost you money that you're just trying to recoup.

I admit I underestimated your problems and thought you were just jumping on the anti-piracy band wagon to try and make some easy cash. Thanks for sharing the other side of the story.

[BellaBellucci]

I admit I underestimated your problems and thought you were just jumping on the anti-piracy band wagon to try and make some easy cash.

Gee. Even I never thought it was about that. Lawsuits against individuals are losing propositions financially, even if you win. If they're serious about stopping piracy they need to 'nut up or shut up.' Go after the guy enabling the illegal downloads, not the fans who will now never buy a Grooby product after being sued.

Grooby = Metallica, not only for attacking its own fans, but because Shemale Yum started pretty much right after Steven's own personal foray into content piracy on newsgroups, by his own admission. Metallica gained popularity after its fans were taping its live shows and spreading the word around - perhaps one of the earliest forms of viral marketing.

And of course Steven is the guy who first insensitively used the word 'shemale' for his own selfish internet marketing purposes, then later explained that he didn't know better. Well I'm sorry, but not even considering the feelings of his models or doing any kind of research on their lifestyles is a pretty good indicator of exploitation to me.

~BB~

[Trans-Promo]

Gee. Even I never thought it was about that. Lawsuits against individuals are losing propositions financially, even if you win. If they're serious about stopping piracy they need to 'nut up or shut up.' Go after the guy enabling the illegal downloads, not the fans who will now never buy a Grooby product after being sued.

Grooby = Metallica, not only for attacking its own fans, but because Shemale Yum started pretty much right after Steven's own personal foray into content piracy on newsgroups, by his own admission. Metallica gained popularity after its fans were taping its live shows and spreading the word around - perhaps one of the earliest forms of viral marketing.

And of course Steven is the guy who first insensitively used the word 'shemale' for his own selfish internet marketing purposes, then later explained that he didn't know better. Well I'm sorry, but not even considering the feelings of his models or doing any kind of research on their lifestyles is a pretty good indicator of exploitation to me.

~BB~

Oh drop it already - you are so bitter - Steven Steven Steven