Thoughts on Obama SO FAR?

[goku]

if america started to stop its rich from buying expensive foriegn cars it might help and importing cheap labour

What made America great was it didn't have to go outside of it's borders for anything. We made our own cars. Provided for our own oil. Grew our own crops, and manufactured our own products.


Slowly but surely we have signed away all of those things. When you are doing all those things it means that the country is working, and everyone is making money. Now we are a country of middle men, pushing papers around on a desk for products we don't make here.

[Kramer]

As for Kramer, turn on your brain and leave it there.
If Obama was a communist( the biggest joke about BHO's presidency there is), he wouldn't have all these corporate giveaways to the healthcare industry and Wall Street investment banks.

And trust me, knowing someone as a youth does not make you...THEM.
I've had plenty of life 'mentors' as a teen who've lived totally different life experiences than me, but their lives weren't ever mine

Hey giovanni hotel..............so you say his mentor when he was young and the fact that he was a commie means nothing? Then how about Rev Wright and the racist phony religion called "black liberation theology" that the lying bastard claims he knows nothing about because he was deaf for 20 years?! Does he get a pass in your biased eyas there too!!! Wake up and see the truth!

[Solitary Brother]

It seems I know more than you think, because it was a combination of all of the above that got us in this mess. I just cited the bills passed, and (I believe) the years also.

The loans people drew up were the problem, but that had been going on since the 90's, and even the Bush admin tried unsuccessfully in both 03 and 05 to regulate that sector. They were met with harsh opposition from the Pelosi/Frank camp both times.

Couple that with people losing their jobs to outsourcing, and you have a recipe for disaster.

Now factor in that the banks that sold people the loans had grown to the point were they were too big to fail. You had bank after bank swallowing each other since the signing of that bill in 98.

People didn't default on their bad loans 6 months in. They had those loans for a few years, until the rates kicked up, and then they defaulted after awhile. Which means the meat of the damage started way before W got in office.

I don't think I said minorities were the problem.

Please go educate yourself...please.
Thank you.

[giovanni_hotel]

I've had coaches that spent time in prison who were HUGE influences on my life, doesn't make me a future felon for knowing them.

Reverend Wright has hours upon hours of sermons on DVD, yet don't you think if he was preaching some insanity from the pulpit for decades, BHO's opponents would have been able to pull more than a snippet where he says, 'God damn America!!'??

20 such clips would have doomed Obama's presidential aspirations.

Like most fire and brimstone preachers, Rev. Wright went off the reservation sometimes, but for the most part he was a mainstream Baptist style preacher.

Oprah Winfrey for years was a member of his church, for chrissakes, and you know how she LOVES white folks to death!!lol

[PomonaCA]

Please go educate yourself...please.
Thank you.

Hello friend,

I just wanted to point out that you say the same thing every time someone says something you don't agree with.


Yours Truly,

PomonaCA

[Kramer]

I've had coaches that spent time in prison who were HUGE influences on my life, doesn't make me a future felon for knowing them.

Reverend Wright has hours upon hours of sermons on DVD, yet don't you think if he was preaching some insanity from the pulpit for decades, BHO's opponents would have been able to pull more than a snippet where he says, 'God damn America!!'??

20 such clips would have doomed Obama's presidential aspirations.

Like most fire and brimstone preachers, Rev. Wright went off the reservation sometimes, but for the most part he was a mainstream Baptist style preacher.

Oprah Winfrey for years was a member of his church, for chrissakes, and you know how she LOVES white folks to death!!lol

The liberal media hid everything about the bum so most voters didnt know what they were getting. Now he and congress pass bills without telling us everything that in it.

And I know Oprah is a phony that hates whites as much as any black person does. She is a phony too, but the media loves her act!

[goku]

Please go educate yourself...please.
Thank you.

lol


I can tell you don't get the big picture. You need to do your own homework. Meanwhile China is the old US, and getting richer by the minute. Meanwhile we will keep making bullshit excuses as to why we can't get the job done, and keep building on our "sense of entitlement" society.

I gave you the raw reasons as to why our society continues on a decline, and you say go educate yourself. Thanks for clearing that up. Notice you are the only one arguing this. I am a college graduate, and I have traveled abroad. I see what other countries are doing, what works, and what doesn't.

As old fashioned as it sounds, America needs to go back to building American and buying American. It's the reason wars always made us a richer country. Now that we are even getting our defense products/weapons from overseas, not even starting a war will pull us out of a recession. I think YOU need to do your homework SB, real talk.

[giovanni_hotel]

The liberal media hid everything about the bum so most voters didnt know what they were getting. Now he and congress pass bills without telling us everything that in it.

And I know Oprah is a phony that hates whites as much as any black person does. She is a phony too, but the media loves her act!

It was the liberal media that kept replaying those clips of Rev. Wright. You think Faux would have sat on more damning video of Rev. Wright just to benefit BHO's campaign??


But you are right, ALL Black folks HATE all white, brown, Asian, Euro and Spanish people.

Please don't tell anybody.

[flabbybody]

The man is an economic moron---runaway unemploynent ---a crashing economy---those of you who voted for change you got it----how do you like it ?

a crashing economy occurred during the prior administration.
runaway unemployment began 14 months before Obama was sworn in.
You have every right to call him whatever you want, but if we're going to debate his record we need to get the right sequence of events

[Norma]

Again, I think you have to go back to Aug. 15, 1971 to find the real culprit here. That was the day that Richard Nixon, by executive fiat, debased the dollar. It ended 25 years of stabile growth & started the inflationary spiral that we're still caught up in, even during the recurring recessions. The purchasing power of the currency is now less than 10% of what it was, & it's all artificial. There's no standards. There's no way to judge value, & the rate of currency decline (inflation) is set by the whims of international speculators who aren't regulated by anybody. Every currency in the world is in decline, & "FOREX" is just where you bet on the rate. It's not even real money. It's all derivatives. You have to use derivatives for any kind of international trade because you don't know what the exchange rate might be tomorrow. Whenever somebody mentions "the value of a dollar" anymore, the first thing that comes to mind is "compared to what?".

What to do? Simpliify. Start negotiating a new agreement on the lines of Bretton Woods, without the gold peg. Can't go bck to a gold standard because there's no reserves. I think that was the fatal flaw in Bretton Woods to begin with. But if you fix the exchange rates by pegging the currencies to each other, inflation could become manageable. Right now, it's not, & you can blame everything that's happening today on the financial industry trying to hedge against it.

Exactly , all this unemployment and the economy slowly but surely going down the tubes goes back that far.

Except most people think it was Bush's or Obama's doing or ineptitude. Trouble is, most people can not see more than 5 feet in front of them or more than 5 minutes ahead, Everything is about NOW NOW NOW or fairly recent.

America's adherence to an outdated capitalistic system is actually what has been causing the gradual decline since the seventies, Factories have been going overseas since that time.

The American Way has actually become very Un-American for the current/future generations of America. A company surviving has actually become more important than keeping the jobs in the states. Exactly how American capitalism states it should be. Make your competition fail, and you do whatever you have to for survival.

That stuff was good when the USA was riding the high wave of a ruined economic japan, germany, europe, and china after ww2, but now it's redundant and came back to bite us in the ass. The glory days are over.

America is going to fall harder, before Obama or any president within a 10 year period (just guessing) really fixes anything. Right now everything is just patch ups.

Obama is not better or worse than anyone recently. McCain would've looked the same, If clinton had run again, it would've been the same.

The root of it goes back to the 70's , like hippifried said. Good call man.