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    Quote Originally Posted by NYBURBS View Post
    Let's see, they have laws regulating:

    drugs/intrastate & interstate manufacturing/labor/wages/standards/banks/commerce/interstate and intrastate roads/waterways/schools/food/cars/trains/planes/ships/parks/energy production/pensions/social security/mail/hospitals/patents/copyright/immigration/anything that receives federal money, and a ton of other things, but that list is off the top of my head.

    I'm not even getting into the debate about what they are and aren't suppose to regulate under the Constitution, but my point that they have a direct and strong influence on day to day life is a valid one.
    Sorry spud, but you're going to have to go into that "ton of other things" to find something that actually shows that the feds control the day to day lives of the American people.

    I'll give you the drugs thing. The banned substances anyway. But the rest of it? How does the regulation of interstate commerce control your day to day life? Almost your entire list is just about regulation of interstate or international commerce, & that was mentioned in the post that you just answered. That's what national governments are supposed to do, but you talk about it as if it's some kind of sinister malevolence. It doesn't affect you at all, unless you're trying to pull something you shouldn't. What? You want to go back to the "good old days" of serfdom & abject poverty? Do you really think the egoist Ayn Rand fairyland could or should ever exist in reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    The damn "community reinvestment act" started this whole thing. Giving loans to people that have bad or no credit. Clinton forced the banks to make the loans. Everyone knows it, why dont you? Read it up before spewing you bullshit! Carter started it and Clinton made it worse. They knew these banks werent getting their money back, and forced them to do it anyway!!!
    Turn off the conservative TV and talk radio, genius.

    Grow a brain cell....blaming the Community Reinvestment Act for the suprime mortgage crisis is like blaming gasoline refineries for car accidents.

    He's a link, get the full story.
    Then ask yourself why the biggest voices on the Right are LYING to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippifried View Post
    Sorry spud, but you're going to have to go into that "ton of other things" to find something that actually shows that the feds control the day to day lives of the American people.

    I'll give you the drugs thing. The banned substances anyway. But the rest of it? How does the regulation of interstate commerce control your day to day life? Almost your entire list is just about regulation of interstate or international commerce, & that was mentioned in the post that you just answered. That's what national governments are supposed to do, but you talk about it as if it's some kind of sinister malevolence. It doesn't affect you at all, unless you're trying to pull something you shouldn't. What? You want to go back to the "good old days" of serfdom & abject poverty? Do you really think the egoist Ayn Rand fairyland could or should ever exist in reality?
    Na, I'm afraid that bringing up Ayn Rand isn't going to cut it here. I was talking about how the level of representation in Congress has diminished, while the scope of their regulatory authority has increased. If you don't think that above list doesn't have much to do with your day to day life, then you need to get your head checked.



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    Glenn Beck is sooo hot... ha!ha!
    Anyway, here's an interesting clip. Author and radio host Thom Hartmann talks about ol' Glenn and Sarah. (Thom Hartmann refers to them as opportunists. Which they are.)




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    oh please..please dont tell me anyone in his or her right mind takes that shill thom hartmann seriously? not that u should take beck seriously either...just saying



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    Lightbulb also over valuation of the assets caused people do be upside down in the mortgage

    also over valuation of the assets caused people do be upside down in the mortgage

    you owe more then your home is worth therefore you have NO! equity

    minorities were targeted for variable interest loans and home values were inflated


    Quote Originally Posted by tsbrenda View Post
    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower


    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower
    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower


    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower
    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower


    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower

    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower


    what started it was giving adjustable interest loan were as your payment can double are get high or slightly lower



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    also over valuation of the assets caused people do be upside down in the mortgage

    you owe more then your home is worth therefore you have NO! equity


    minorities were targeted for variable interest loans and home values were inflated


    Minorities, the victim again, huh? You are really out of your mind! The damn loans were meant to get minorities in homes regardless if they could afford it or not!! Stop being so biased. Always the victim...................always the victim. Typical liberal!



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    I don't much care for Glen Beck...but can we please...pleaaasssssee...avoid quoting that insufferable, pompous big bag of wind Keith Olbermann...he's completely unlikable... I absolutely can't stand him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NYBURBS View Post
    Na, I'm afraid that bringing up Ayn Rand isn't going to cut it here. I was talking about how the level of representation in Congress has diminished, while the scope of their regulatory authority has increased. If you don't think that above list doesn't have much to do with your day to day life, then you need to get your head checked.
    It's called governance. We all know what happens when there isn't any. Almost all regulation of you as an individual comes at the state, county, & municiplal level. You're just paranoid. Hence your list.

    The only reason I brought up Ayn Rand is because you brought up "rational self-interest". Egoism doesn't work in practice. It's a bogus ideology. Every bit as bogus as Marxism, Douglas' "social credit" system, or theocracy. You sound more & more like Alex Jones every day.


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