2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

[Stavros]

As vote-counting goes on, the claimed Trump landslide is looking less and less impressive. Trump's share of the popular vote has now fallen below 50% and the margin has shrunk to 1.6%. It will shrink a little further as there are still some California votes to be counted. That will make it the second smallest popular vote margin since 1968.

At this stage Trump's vote is up by 2.5 million (3.5%) compared to 2020, while the Democrat vote is down 7 million (8.7%). Taking account of population growth, that suggests a modest increase in Trump's share of the voting population. The main story in this Presidential election is the collapse in the Democrat vote, rather than the increase in votes for Trump.

The results in Congressional elections were even less impressive. Republicans ended up with virtually the same narrow majority in the House of Reps that they had before the election. In the Senate they picked up 3 seats, but Democrats had many more seats at risk and they hung unto 3 seats in states won by Trump.

And image obsessed Trump don't like these awkward facts-
Trump team 'fuming' as margin of victory dwindles after Election Day: 'Delegitimize his mandate'

The facts being Trump's wining margin is one of the weakest/smallest in US history, but I guess winner takes all. Until the mid-terms?
Transition 2025: Did Trump Win an “Unprecedented and Powerful Mandate”? | Council on Foreign Relations

List of United States presidential elections by Electoral College margin - Wikipedia

[MrFanti]

cesspool of a city.

Yep!
Used to live there myself cesspool definitely! Total racist and segregated when I was there - and when I say racist, I mean racism WITHIN PEOPLE OF COLOR....

Well, at least Robert Taylor homes are gone now.....

[Stavros]

Yep!
Used to live there myself cesspool definitely! Total racist and segregated when I was there - and when I say racist, I mean racism WITHIN PEOPLE OF COLOR....

Well, at least Robert Taylor homes are gone now.....

A cesspool indeed when it includes one of the finest museums of art I have ever seen (and I have seen most of the best)-

Home | The Art Institute of Chicago

If you love music you could slum it here-

Home | Lyric Opera of Chicago

If you live long enough, you might want to explore this when it is finished (but it's on the South Side, so maybe ask someone from the IDF to escort you?)

The Obama Presidential Center | The Obama Foundation

As for the nightlife, this woman lists the two best cities she has been for nightlife: Melbourne, and, yep you guessed it: Chicago.

I've been to 50 countries — there's only one I'll never return to

Maybe next time go as Don Cheadle, pretend you are a tourist from the UK? Oright mate?

[Paladin]

Then go.

Just don't walk the streets back to your hotel afterwards...

[Stavros]

Then go.

Just don't walk the streets back to your hotel afterwards...

I have been to Chicago and no, I wasn't mugged, or robbed, or harassed. On my first visit to NYC I was walking at all hours of the day and night and never once had a problem, and that was in the early 80s.

When did you last go to Chicago and stay out late? Maybe if your bedtime is c21.00 you lead a charmed life?

[filghy2]

Then go.

Just don't walk the streets back to your hotel afterwards...

You were in Afghanistan, and now you are afraid to be in an American city? Maybe you need to cut down on your Fox News watching.

[MrFanti]

MICHAEL MOORE just accused Biden of starting World War 3! (amongst other smashing)
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/biden...ut-with-a-bang

"LAND MINES, Joe? Seriously? THIS is your legacy? This is how you want to go out? In a blaze of horror? Like, if Joe’s gotta go, we all gotta go with him… right into World War III? "

What makes this so interesting is that the whole Democratic Party was with Biden - until his debate with Trump....
Now, they're abandoning Biden just like they're silently abandoning Harris...

Firms up yet again why I'm not a supporter of a 2 party system....

[Paladin]

As vote-counting goes on, the claimed Trump landslide is looking less and less impressive. Trump's share of the popular vote has now fallen below 50% and the margin has shrunk to 1.6%. It will shrink a little further as there are still some California votes to be counted. That will make it the second smallest popular vote margin since 1968.

At this stage Trump's vote is up by 2.5 million (3.5%) compared to 2020, while the Democrat vote is down 7 million (8.7%). Taking account of population growth, that suggests a modest increase in Trump's share of the voting population. The main story in this Presidential election is the collapse in the Democrat vote, rather than the increase in votes for Trump.

The results in Congressional elections were even less impressive. Republicans ended up with virtually the same narrow majority in the House of Reps that they had before the election. In the Senate they picked up 3 seats, but Democrats had many more seats at risk and they hung unto 3 seats in states won by Trump.

Rationalize all you want. The fact remains that trump got a larger percentage of votes in nearly every, if not all states as compared to 2020.

It was biden's idiotic, (and most likely puppet mastered by o and/or a group) policies that trashed us here, and the people have had more than enough of it. They practically handed the election to the Republicans, and when they insulted parts of their own base, well that was too much.

If the Republican candidate was ANYONE other than Trump, this would have been a 47, 48, or 49 state electoral blowout not seen since 1984. Even with all the hatred directed against him, Trump managed to win an impressive victory.

And the harris campaign & dem leadership - if you can call it that - are STILL blaming the voters, and everything, even the hurricanes that devastated mostly conservative areas, EXCEPT where the blame belongs - themselves and their disingenuous continued gaslighting of the people with "biden was doing such a great job" and "nothing comes to mind"...

[Paladin]

You were in Afghanistan, and now you are afraid to be in an American city? Maybe you need to cut down on your Fox News watching.

Who says I was afraid? I'm out in large cities, all the time, However, I go where I can carry, not some liberal crime infested city where the criminals have more rights than their victims.

I have been to Chicago and no, I wasn't mugged, or robbed, or harassed. On my first visit to NYC I was walking at all hours of the day and night and never once had a problem, and that was in the early 80s.

When did you last go to Chicago and stay out late? Maybe if your bedtime is c21.00 you lead a charmed life?

NYC today is not like it was in the 80s. I lived and worked there for three years, and visited it often before and after. It was nothing like it is today.

I don't know what you mean by c21.00, but its 0300R here and I'm up, although I do need to get to bed soon.....

[filghy2]

Rationalize all you want. The fact remains that trump got a larger percentage of votes in nearly every, if not all states as compared to 2020.

That was also an election that he lost just as decisively as he won this won. Did the last 8 years teach you nothing about how quickly things can change?

The fact is that the tipping point state (Pennsylvania) was won by a margin of 1.7%. That means if less than 1% of voters switch parties the next election can go the other way. Only a blind partisan fool would let this election go to their head and think they are now invincible.

It's definitely possible that some voters will change their minds once they see that Trump isn't going to magically restore what they remember from 2019 (they seem to have forgotten about 2020) - that instead of restoring stability they are likely to get non-stop chaos. The one saving grace about Trump I is that he didn't actually do many of the things he talked about - either because he had no idea how to get things done or because responsible Republicans blocked him. That probably won't be the case this time because one lesson he learned was to surround himself with yes people with similar crazy ideas.