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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    So shameful. It really sounds like a bonafide hate rally. Sent in my ballot for Kamala. Wait and see.
    The really shameful thing is that so many normal Republicans and Independents seem determined not to see any of this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    That is absolutely despicable and very disturbing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    in more news....this is mainstream in the Republican party https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/s...57453471334551

    speaks for itself. so rotten.
    Agree it does speak for itself,and is very rotten.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    If tax is to be an election issue at this late stage, it may be due to Trump 'floating' the idea of abolishing Federal income tax.
    This is all magical thinking based on the idea that the revenue can be replaced by import tariffs, which he seems to believe fall on foreigners and not Americans. Somehow, tariffs are going to stop imports without raising prices. In reality it would be a massive shift in the taxation burden from high income earners to low income earners. So much for helping the workers against elites.

    The other irony is that people are voting for Trump because they are mad about temporary surge in inflation, yet Trump's own policies will be inflationary:
    - a big increase in import tariffs
    - big tax cuts that will be funding mainly by borrowing
    - reducing the labour supply by deporting millions of undocumented immigrants
    - reducing the independence of the Federal Reserve to force them to keep interest rates down
    https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/realis...h-damage-could


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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    in more news....this is mainstream in the Republican party https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/s...57453471334551

    speaks for itself. so rotten.
    I don't know who Grant Cardone is, but he repeats a common line from Trump and others, that Harris is 'the least qualified candidate to ever run for any political office in American history'.

    I guess Mr Cardone has never heard of Ross Perot or Jill Stein, and for obvious reasons he could have mentioned Angela Davis, and it doesn't matter because this is existential politics that determines either you vote for Trump or 'you won't have a country any more'.

    As for what the qualifications are for President, even if you don't think Trump had any in 2016, this list puts one man in the frame, with a surprising result, though some Republicans who hate him would probably respond 'told you so!'

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    • His total education lasted about nine months — and those months weren’t consecutive months. He “studied” in country schoolhouse where there were zero teacher qualifications, and never received a minute of high school or college learning.
    • He served about a month in the military, and his military experience consisted, in his own words, of wandering around swatting mosquitoes.
    • His one experience running a business was disastrous. He bought into a business with a colleague, and they quickly ran it into the ground.
    • He served a single term in the U.S. Congress, representing a rural district in a rural state. While in Congress, he achieved almost nothing, and at the end of his single term, party officials replaced him, and he never ran for another term.
    • After that, he served a single term in his state’s legislature, and that state lay on the outskirts of the country as it then existed.
    • His professional career was extensive and successful, earning him a moderate degree of prosperity for him and his family, but it offered little preparation for serving as president of the U.S.
    • He ran for a seat to represent his state in the U.S. Senate, and he lost rather soundly.

    That man, by practically every objective measure, was one of the least suited man every to run for president on a major party ticket.
    And that man was Abraham Lincoln."
    Which American president was the least qualified for the position? Why? (Not necessarily the worst president) - Quora


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    BREAKING NEWS from DJ Trump

    VENEZUELAN GANGS HAVE TAKEN OVER TIMES SQUARE.

    What?!

    Maybe they are eating the (hot) dogs?


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    Kamala Harris was a capable prosecutor. She passed the bar exam, which is not super difficult, but is something I am pretty sure Donald Trump could not do even if he attended law school.

    The problem with Trump is that he is amoral. This is not a judgment or a political statement, but a character assessment that is very tough to dispute. People say, well he favors me in this way or that way.

    They should be asked the question: if it harmed him to favor you, is there any principle he adheres to that would cause him to defend you? If it benefitted him to harm you and he could without repercussions, is there any principle that would prevent him from harming you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    The really shameful thing is that so many normal Republicans and Independents seem determined not to see any of this.
    The frequency with which he does things that are repugnant challenges the working memory and short-term memory ability of the average person. If you talk to one of his supporters, they will defend him by trying to compare something egregious he did to something Hillary did, and by the time you explain all of the differences between the actions that make them very different you will have forgotten the 9 other things (for the moment) you were going to point out.

    But of course, it is possible to have a checklist in one's own mind, or even to write it down, and know that he has said or done dozens of things that would ordinarily make someone dangerously unqualified to look after the public welfare.

    He did not just contest the results of an election. He refused to concede and advanced multiple competing theories about how he was cheated that were not coherent or supported by facts. He tried to convince a state attorney general to find enough votes for him to win, and then tried to pressure his vice president to refuse to certify the results of the election.

    But this is less than one in a hundred of the things he did. If someone does not see the things he does as uniquely disqualifying, then it means they have no red lines that would prevent them from pursuing what they want politically.


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    Was MSG the 'October Surprise' or the 'October Fuckup'? What struck me about the clips that I saw was just how much swearing their was, and the tone of rage, insolence, even violence, and I just don't see how anyone born before 2000 can see the Republican Party even of GW Bush in this, even Vance in his Jake Tapper interview smeared the Neo-Cons who we used to think were the most extreme within 'normal' politics. This is now just sewer politics, and it's scary.

    But most of the coverage in the UK has focused on the impact Hinchcliffe might have on undecided voters and people with links to Puerto Rico in swing states. Was this the night Trump lost the election?


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