2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

[Stavros]

Biden’s family privately criticizes top advisers and pushes for their ouster at Camp David meeting


http://www.politico.com/news/2024/06...ebate-00165970

This is nonsense, now can someone be 'over prepared' when the question is why Biden did not react spontaneously when Trump made such outrageous statements about immigration, losing the election and so on -did he need coaching to do that? Surely this is the bread and butter stuff of normal debate? And what about the two moderators who allowed Trump to change the subject and not answer questions, and never challenge him on claims that have no merit on any level? In the UK elections the moderators make politicians uncomfortable, asking them tough questions and they expect it -they even get hostile questions from the public which I don't see in this US election -open it up, get Trump and Biden to face the music, though Trump usually walks out of interviews if he thinks they are not going his way.

What you don't get in the US

[Stavros]

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[filghy2]

Biden’s family privately criticizes top advisers and pushes for their ouster at Camp David meeting

I know these views didn't come from Biden himself, but blaming the staff is never a good sign.
"Among the family’s complaints about the debate practice: that Biden was not prepared to pivot more to go on the attack; that he was bogged down too much on defending his record rather than outlining a vision for a second term; and that he was over-worked and not well-rested."

If the man can't come up with his own reponses in a critical situation then he shouldn't be running. If he can't function unless conditions are just right then he shouldn't be running. If the approach suggested by advisors was wrong for him, why didn't he insist on a different approach?

I guess this means we are stuck with Biden, barring a major health problem.

[filghy2]

If people still backing Biden really believe the debate was just an aberration and he's still capable of campaigning effectively there's an obvious way to prove it. Have him do a series of tough interviews where he will be grilled and has to come up with responses off the cuff. If they continue to shield him it suggests they don't actually believe their own lines.

[blackchubby38]

I know these views didn't come from Biden himself, but blaming the staff is never a good sign.
"Among the family’s complaints about the debate practice: that Biden was not prepared to pivot more to go on the attack; that he was bogged down too much on defending his record rather than outlining a vision for a second term; and that he was over-worked and not well-rested."

If the man can't come up with his own reponses in a critical situation then he shouldn't be running. If he can't function unless conditions are just right then he shouldn't be running. If the approach suggested by advisors was wrong for him, why didn't he insist on a different approach?

I guess this means we are stuck with Biden, barring a major health problem.

I just want to make something known. I posted that article as to keep people informed as to what's been happening since Thursday's night debacle. I'm by no means endorsing the opinions expressed by the Biden family, as I feel there are not helping in this situation.

Furthermore, I have never liked the idea of a President or those close to him blaming others for their shortcomings. Because something tells me that if Biden did well in that debate, we wouldn't be hearing how well his staff helped him prepare and that he would be getting all the praise for how well he handled Trump.

Finally, I find the people going out of their way to make excuses for Biden's performance or basically telling others who have concerns to basically "Shut up and support the guy" are in some serious denial about him being an effective campaigner or what the next four years are going to be like if he is re-elected. He is the President of the United States, not your favorite sports team.

[Stavros]

Finally, I find the people going out of their way to make excuses for Biden's performance or basically telling others who have concerns to basically "Shut up and support the guy" are in some serious denial about him being an effective campaigner or what the next four years are going to be like if he is re-elected. He is the President of the United States, not your favorite sports team.

I agree, which is why if he is re-elected in November, I doubt he will still be there in 2028. So why wait for him to resign owing to ill health a year into the Presidency? It looks like the Democrats haven't got the bottle to do what they need to do.

[Fitzcarraldo]

I agree, which is why if he is re-elected in November, I doubt he will still be there in 2028. So why wait for him to resign owing to ill health a year into the Presidency? It looks like the Democrats haven't got the bottle to do what they need to do.

They need to have the candidate to replace him. Who is it? Who doesn't alienate independent voters more than Biden?

[Stavros]

They need to have the candidate to replace him. Who is it? Who doesn't alienate independent voters more than Biden?

The point is that if he is in office, but resigns or dies or is removed, the Vice President automatically takes over. This may even be what Harris and her supporters are thinking.

[KnightHawk 2.0]

A Question For My Fellow Posters: What if President Joe Biden decided to end his campaign for reelection and step aside,and Vice President Kamala Harris becomes the president and the Democratic Nominee,and Joe Biden gives her his full support. Do y'all think the other members of the Party jump on board and support her?.

[filghy2]

A Question For My Fellow Posters: What if President Joe Biden decided to end his campaign for reelection and step aside,and Vice President Kamala Harris becomes the president and the Democratic Nominee,and Joe Biden gives her his full support. Do y'all think the other members of the Party jump on board and support her?.

I don't think they would have any choice, because challenging that solution would be very messy and they would be blamed for creating disunity. The only way someone else could get it would be if Biden nominated them.