Thought for the Day

[broncofan]

What is a "conspiracy theorist," Bronco? Me? No, I'm a mechanic. I do have some theories though, about some of the things that happen in the world, and sometimes those theories involve multiple people executing some evil plan for profit, which meets the qualifications for a "conspiracy." But nobody pays me to do that, they pay me to be a mechanic.

It's interesting to me when people weaponize those words. If you are a "conspiracy theorist" you are automatically suspected of mental illness. Never mind that many so-called conspiracy theories have proven to be true as time passes and the conspirators die off. JFK? Is that a "conspiracy theory?" Because as even the government itself has admitted at this point, Oswald didn't act alone. The Military-Industrial Complex, conspiracy theory, or has 70 years of continuous warfare finally convinced people that there actually IS a not-entirely-public group of powerful people intent on keeping this country at war for profit? FBI complicity in the 1993 WTC bombing - conspiracy theory, or proved true by the New York Times in this article - https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/31/n...-dealings.html ?

I guess my real question is, when did gullibility become a virtue? How does NOT believing a steaming pile of lies make me the sucker?

Perfect example, the Sandy Hook incident. I can tell you with near 100% certainty that no children were killed in this incident and in fact, the entire incident was completely fabricated, never happened at all, was entirely staged. How can I say this? Because I've studied the matter at length. I've seen the Robbie Parker video in which he is enjoying a nice belly laugh before stepping up to the podium, completely changing his facial expression, and discussing the slaughter of his daughter less than 24 hours prior. I've seen video of parents who had supposedly just lost their children to a crazed killer, yet somehow not a single tear was shed. I saw these same parents being interviewed on television immediately after the event, and every single one of them immediately wanted to advocate gun control - not a SINGLE PARENT was of the opinion that it would have been better if someone at the school had been armed and able to address the problem of the lone gunman, they were ALL gun control proponents, to the extent that the issue of gun control was more important to them than grieving over their lost children. I watched as the Connecticut legislature IMMEDIATELY sealed all records of the event, so that at this point, it is no longer even possible to prove that these children existed, let alone that they were murdered. I saw the famous "firehouse circles" video in which paid actors walked in a continuous circle into, out of, around, and back into the nearby firehouse in order to portray the image of a lot of activity. I saw the indisputable hard-drive evidence that the news story about the event in the local paper was written THE DAY BEFORE THE INCIDENT.

I saw all this, I saw a motive for staging exactly such an incident, I saw tons of evidence that it was indeed staged, and I determined it was not real.

Now, I am not theorizing about a conspiracy here. I KNOW it didn't happen, and every single solitary piece of evidence that still exists about this thing (which of course doesn't include bodies of victims, the body of the alleged perpetrator, the school itself, the weapons used, or even a single reliable piece of eyewitness testimony) agrees with me.

In the real world, I'm absolutely correct about this thing, and I can prove it to a much greater extent than you can try to prove me wrong. But in THIS world, the one we actually live in, I'm considered to be the crazy one. All the world's dipshits are aligned against me - of course it really happened, didn't you read the government story? What are you, a crazy conspiracy theorist?

It's funny in a clownish way, but ultimately those who speak out against "conspiracy theories" are merely stupid, easily manipulated, and live in constant fear of any data that doesn't confirm their own media-centric world view.

There is a "They," Bronco. The government does lie. The media lies. People lie. For reasons. And some other people prefer sifting through all these layers of bullshit and trying to parse out those reasons over silent acceptance of the lies. Those people are your "conspiracy theorists." Or, as some of us prefer to be called, your mechanic.

I feel like we're seeing a much darker side of you Nick Peligro. You seem much less affable in this last post.

I'll let it speak for itself but am hopeful the Republican party can become a movement for conservative ideas instead of a fan club for Sandy Hook Truthers and insurrectionists.

Edit: wanted to include Nick's post on this page. I don't think it convinces anyone who didn't already feel this way but it is kind of disturbing.

[Nick Danger]

I feel like we're seeing a much darker side of you Nick Peligro. You seem much less affable in this last post.

I'll let it speak for itself but am hopeful the Republican party can become a movement for conservative ideas instead of a fan club for Sandy Hook Truthers and insurrectionists.

Edit: wanted to include Nick's post on this page. I don't think it convinces anyone who didn't already feel this way but it is kind of disturbing.

There's another one of those weaponized words - Truther. Comes complete with the implication of a sweaty, double-chinned man-child hovering over a multi-screen computer array in his parents' basement, wearing a tin-foil hat with an expression of determined ignorance on his face.

But I'm not a "truther." I don't readily accept bullshit, particularly when it's the kind that's not even wrapped up in a sweet candy shell for mass consumption. E.G., not only was Sandy Hook a hoax, it wasn't even a well-done hoax. It was so easy to see through the lies that I remember actually thinking to myself, "Uh oh, the government's gotten themselves into some trouble on this one, there's no WAY the masses are going to swallow this." But that was just foolish of me, of COURSE the public swallowed it, hook, line, and sinker.

Matters very little to me. I know what I know. You saw the exact same "massacre" as I did, Bronco. Didn't seem even a little suspicious? No problem understanding how an entire group of 52 parents of slaughtered children could all be gun control advocates with no tear ducts?

It's like when you start bringing up all the questionable aspects of 9/11, such as Tower 7 collapsing free-fall style without ever having been struck by a plane, the Pentagon being free of airplane wreckage, no debris at the crash site in Shanksville (it was ultimately explained to us that this plane "disintegrated on impact," in mocking violation of the laws of physics), and so on, and on, and on, and on. Now, no matter which side of the belief spectrum you're on, it can't be denied that this is a subject worth discussing - a great big important subject with far-reaching consequences to the entire planet. But the very moment you begin to suggest that maybe the public hasn't gotten the whole truth on the matter of 9/11, you're met with a cacophony of "Truthers LOL" and "conspiracy-tard." Which is eerily reminiscent of the public's general attitude about the JFK conspiracy in the decades immediately following it - until, of course, a congressional investigation and a deathbed confession or two revealed that the real dipshits were the ones who believed the Warren Report all along.

In any case, I have a slight advantage on John Q. Public because I was in the Air Force. Not only was I in the Air Force, I was actually the civilian press liaison at a large stateside SAC base. I know for a fact that the public is fed a constant stream of misinformation and disinformation, because I used to feed it to them. I was quite literally trained in the fine art of the cover-up, and participated in more than one. Here's a hint: Military cover-ups don't involve MUCH lying; they are more about stonewalling the press or insisting on a certain level of coverage ("Well Below Saturation" and "Single Touch" are two terms that will probably be part of a handshake agreement between a millitary commander and a newspaper editor during an exchange of sensistive information) from behind closed doors. But they certainly will lie if it becomes necessary - they will have a meeting, they will decide which lie is best, they will brainstorm all the various ways the lie might be discovered, and then they will pick up the phone and lie, lie, lie.

I'm sorry to disturb your reverie with truthiness, Bronco. I could easily say that it's disturbing to me that so many people are so easily deceived, but fact is, I don't much care what people believe. I certainly don't anticipate ever living in a country in which too-big-to-fuck-with liars are unable to manipulate public opinion at their leisure. I'm even aware that to a great degree, most people prefer being lied to rather than having to contend with the ramifications of the truth.

There is some incredibly shady shit going on at the very highest levels of government and media, Bronco. Most people don't have the stomach to hash it all out or the intellect to read between the lines even if they did. Doesn't make them bad people. Weak, maybe. Brainwashed? Definitely. Stupid? I don't think most people are stupid. But I will hearken back to that classic Tommy Lee Jones line from Men In Black, "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

As far as what the Republican Party might become, I think it is what it is. It makes perfect sense to me that the Repubican Party would be home to more conspiracy theorists than the Democratic Party, for the same reason that it's home to the more affluent, intelligent, and responsible members of society. It takes at least a little intelligence to align oneself with the party that's moved beyond "Give everyone everything they want."

[Laphroaig]

In any case, I have a slight advantage on John Q. Public because I was in the Air Force. Not only was I in the Air Force, I was actually the civilian press liaison at a large stateside SAC base. I know for a fact that the public is fed a constant stream of misinformation and disinformation, because I used to feed it to them. I was quite literally trained in the fine art of the cover-up, and participated in more than one. Here's a hint: Military cover-ups don't involve MUCH lying; they are more about stonewalling the press or insisting on a certain level of coverage ("Well Below Saturation" and "Single Touch" are two terms that will probably be part of a handshake agreement between a millitary commander and a newspaper editor during an exchange of sensistive information) from behind closed doors. But they certainly will lie if it becomes necessary - they will have a meeting, they will decide which lie is best, they will brainstorm all the various ways the lie might be discovered, and then they will pick up the phone and lie, lie, lie.

So why should we believe anything you say? You've basically just said "trust me, I was trained to lie and use disinformation"...

[Stavros]

[QUOTE=Nick Danger;1957616]

What is a "conspiracy theorist," Bronco? Me? No, I'm a mechanic. I do have some theories though, about some of the things that happen in the world, and sometimes those theories involve multiple people executing some evil plan for profit, which meets the qualifications for a "conspiracy." But nobody pays me to do that, they pay me to be a mechanic.

--A Conspiracy is an event that takes place, or is planned to take place. A Conspiracy Theory is the belief that the event did or did not take place, but is merely a theory, as Conspiracy Theories, by their nature, rely on a fictitious representation of the truth, or a distortion of it. We know for a fact that there people conspired to attack the Capitol building on Jan 6th to stop the Certification of the Presidential election, because the Conspirators discussed it openly on social media platforms, and do not themselves deny it.

Perfect example, the Sandy Hook incident. I can tell you with near 100% certainty that no children were killed in this incident and in fact, the entire incident was completely fabricated, never happened at all, was entirely staged.
Now, I am not theorizing about a conspiracy here. I KNOW it didn't happen, and every single solitary piece of evidence that still exists about this thing (which of course doesn't include bodies of victims, the body of the alleged perpetrator, the school itself, the weapons used, or even a single reliable piece of eyewitness testimony) agrees with me.
In the real world, I'm absolutely correct about this thing, and I can prove it to a much greater extent than you can try to prove me wrong.

--Every claim made about Sandy Hook has been debunked . The smiling parents were interviewed days after the massacre and asked to recall what their children were like, it was a moment of sympathy and remembrance, not wailing and tears. The 'dead girl' who was photographed with Obama was the sister, wearing her dead sisters dress. The people making such claims never produce any evidence that the aim of the 'hoax' was to inspire a repeal of the 2nd Amendment or any law intended to 'take the guns away from the American people'. The theories rarely explain why Adam Lanza murdered his mother or himself, they refuse to accept his personal responsibility, his mental illness, but one can be sure that if asked, it will all be wished away with claims void of evidence.

Nick, you are asking the wrong questions, which is why you get the wrong answers. Government departments that massage the truth have been doing so for as long as we can remember, mostly to defend themselves from criticism, to make themselves look good, no conspiracy required. It's just politics.

American Governments didn't need to slaughter Americans to justify war after 9/11, the Arabs were doing well on their own, and they justified it by arguing US interference in their homelands was unacceptable, to them. American Governments don't need to massacre schoolchildren or college students to enact Gun Control laws, they need only use the State or Federal Congress to do that, as happened in California -when Ronald Reagan was Governor.

No hoax, no conspiracy, no hysteria, just politics and the rule of law. Can't beat it.

Ever considered that Trump, who used to give money to Democrats, was faking it all along, that all that baloney about Covid, Covid, Covid, the insults and the abuse, were made up so that the Republicans would be damnd for a generation? After all, to Trump the last four years was just a tv show, like the one he used to front....they paid him to do a job, and he did it. Ain't that the truth?

[filghy2]

What is a "conspiracy theorist," Bronco? Me? No, I'm a mechanic. I do have some theories though, about some of the things that happen in the world, and sometimes those theories involve multiple people executing some evil plan for profit, which meets the qualifications for a "conspiracy." But nobody pays me to do that, they pay me to be a mechanic.

In any case, I have a slight advantage on John Q. Public because I was in the Air Force. Not only was I in the Air Force, I was actually the civilian press liaison at a large stateside SAC base. I know for a fact that the public is fed a constant stream of misinformation and disinformation, because I used to feed it to them. I was quite literally trained in the fine art of the cover-up, and participated in more than one.

It's funny in a clownish way, but ultimately those who speak out against "conspiracy theories" are merely stupid, easily manipulated, and live in constant fear of any data that doesn't confirm their own media-centric world view.

Your a mechanic but you used to work in press liaison for the air force? Sounds like an unusual career progression.

This reminds me of your previous tall story about jumping off a ship and swimming to shore without any ID.

You really do love playing fictional characters don't you, Nick Danger aka The Sphinx?

You seem to be telling us that everyone lies for ulterior motives, so we can't trust any official or mainstream media source, but we can trust you and other conspiracy theorists.

Nice touch with reversing the onus of proof and claiming that it's people who refuse to believe nonsense who are gullible and deluded. It is funny in a (sad) clownish way.

[sukumvit boy]

I'm so disappointed about what has happened in Myanmar with Aung San Suu Kuy.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/aung-sa...ed-11612542400

[broncofan]

No, I'm a mechanic.
But nobody pays me to do that, they pay me to be a mechanic.
Or, as some of us prefer to be called, your mechanic.

I haven't hired you yet. Why the hell do you keep repeating that you're a mechanic like it has some weird significance we don't know about?

Is a mechanic a special person who can see into the souls of other men? Your mechanic knows the truth! Want to know where the illuminati put your spark plugs? Ask your mechanic. Totally confused here.

Also do you really prefer it when your customers call you their "mechanic"? That's off. If my mechanic Andy told me he preferred to be called "my mechanic" I'd take my car to Steve down the road who doesn't have a fucking screw loose.

Hey Nick Danger I prefer it if you call me your future customer who overpays for shit and rolls his eyes at your loony tunes ideas. Now shut the fuck up.

[Nick Danger]

Your a mechanic but you used to work in press liaison for the air force? Sounds like an unusual career progression.

This reminds me of your previous tall story about jumping off a ship and swimming to shore without any ID.

You really do love playing fictional characters don't you, Nick Danger aka The Sphinx?

You seem to be telling us that everyone lies for ulterior motives, so we can't trust any official or mainstream media source, but we can trust you and other conspiracy theorists.

Nice touch with reversing the onus of proof and claiming that it's people who refuse to believe nonsense who are gullible and deluded. It is funny in a (sad) clownish way.

LOL - I'm 55 years old, Flighty. I guess it seems out of the realm of possibility to the average person that someone could actually have multiple careers in their lives but I have. I joined the Air Force as a youth and they made me a journalist. Then I went to college for a while. Then I started an 18-year career as a radio personality, during which I was compelled to engage in a wide variety of jobs between radio gigs - roofing, pool-cleaning, and steel press manufacturing are three that come immediately to mind, but there were more way more side-jobs than that. In the late 90's I quit the radio business permanently and moved to New Orleans to become a professional drunk. While I was down there I started working in the offshore drilling industry, first as a roughneck and then as a deckhand on supply vessels.

I left New Orleans in 2000 and moved to Nashville TN where I briefly dabbled in talent management. I made quite a bit of money around that time so I started doing some traveling, and that's when I fell in love with southern Utah. I'd always been a mechanic, though never professionally. I took a job at a body shop in Washington UT and worked it for a few years. While I was there I learned quite a bit about turbo chargers from a fellow I worked with, and eventually I recruited him to work for me and opened my own custom after-market turbo business in St. George UT, which is where I now spend most of my time, and resultant of which I have become reasonably financially secure.

You don't need to trust me, Flighty, though it's interesting that you're so personally invested in my life story. IMO you shouldn't trust anyone. On the other hand, when you get to that point, you have to rely strictly on your own powers of reason and discernment to seek the truth. So maybe you do need someone to trust, Flighty.

shut the fuck up.

Now THAT...is "less affable."

[Nick Danger]

Stumbled onto this little gem in today's Hartford Courant. It's the absolutely true story of a young lady who survived the Sandy Hook Massacre and is finally breaking her long silence to talk about - wait for it - gun control:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...rs/ar-BB1dqOtx

She is OUTRAGED at the deniers! Her name is Ashley (no last name given). And she most certainly does exist, you can be certain of it.

"I can’t give you proof except for my trauma, except for the letters people wrote to us, except for the fact that I actually went to that school, you know."

[broncofan]

Why do so many people from St. George use the name Nick Danger as an alias when posting comments;? The aggressive driver had been driving for 37 years as of 2018 which would have made him 53 if he got his license at 16. How odd.

He also seems to think homosexuality is a sin and waxes all sorts of religious orthodoxy to make the argument. Weird town you come from but it sounds like you've lived an interesting life.

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2018/07/27/apc-apple-ceo-imagine-dragons-at-salt-lake-city-music-festival-for-mormon-lgbt-youth/#.YB4TKOhKjIU

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar.../#.YB4S7OhKjIU