US Elections 2020

[broncofan]

That said, I doubt they will do anything meaningful. Habits of paralysis because any action is risky are hard to break.

They wouldn't get credit for it. They aren't concerned about the welfare of the country. So they likely won't act.

[KnightHawk 2.0]

Donald-D.A.M.N-Trump and his inner circle are solely responsible the disgusting,dangerous and heinous act that took place earlier day when his Pro-Trump Rioters and Insurrectionists stormed the US Capital and took over both chambers,and the people who committed this act are not patriots as he claims there are,they are domestic terrorists and thugs who should be arrested and prosecuted. and his enablers in Congress and the US Senate are responsible for creating this monster who has no regard for the rule and only cares about himself. and i sure as hell don't want to hear from Republicans saying that are the party of law and order,when clearly they're not. and it is time for the Vice President Mike Pence and Congress to get together and invoke the 25th Amendment and removed immediately and shouldn't be allowed to serve the last 2 weeks of his term,because he has shown he is unfit and unstable to be president.

[KnightHawk 2.0]

The day of reckoning has arrived for the Republican Party who for the last 4 years has enabled and allowed Donald-D.A.M.N-Trump to commit impeachable offenses and abuse his power and to do whatever he wanted,and let him go unchecked and didn't do a damn thing to keep him in check and looked the other way when he committed impeachable offenses,are no longer in control of the US Senate and are now the minority party. And with Reverend Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff defeating Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue in the Georgia Runoffs for the US Senate,the balance of power has shifted in the Democrats favor and they will be control of the Senate. and will make it easier for Joe Biden to implement his agenda and unite and heal the United States.

[Stavros]

If the President does not resign immediately, but given the way he has spoke of Pence, could the VP fulfill his duties in certifying the result of the election in Congress, and then resign? Can an Impeachment be done within 24-48 hours?

I am not sure now it would be a good idea if Mike Pence resigned -it would be a major shock if it happened, but Trump would then be free to appoint Ivana Marie as the first female Vice-President, to spite Kamala Harris, and to prove he doesn't care about the Office or the values it is supposed to represent. And I don't doubt if she took the job it would be to 'heal' the nation...

[filghy2]

I'm saying all that because I saw video of people who breached the building freely leaving and several reporters on twitter said people had been allowed to leave. Maybe they'll be pursued but if not now it has to be a priority to arrest anyone who breached the entrance no matter how long they hung around.

People broke into our capitol, broke stuff, fired weapons, wrote murder the media on a wall, carried the confederate flag into the chamber, wore Nazi insignia. And so far I read only about a dozen have been arrested. That's already wrong.

Questions also need to be asked about why these people were able to so easily storm what should be a highly-secure building. Why were the police so unprepared when what happened should hardly have come as a surprise? The police response certainly seems to have been remarkably light-handed compared to the earlier BLM protests. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/6570528002/

[broncofan]

Questions also need to be asked about why these people were able to so easily storm what should be a highly-secure building. Why were the police so unprepared when what happened should hardly have come as a surprise? The police response certainly seems to have been remarkably light-handed compared to the earlier BLM protests. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/6570528002/

The difference is stark. We've seen this President has managed to make everything political. Perhaps yesterday's squad was the average force and not the beefed up force for his adversaries bc in his mind the fascists we saw yesterday were a liberating army. I exaggerate but he clearly sees them as on his side and would never choose country over self.

I'm also curious if we ever find out what he was saying when the breach first occurred. How did he respond to requests for national guard? I also want info on the slow play bc any rational person would see breach of the capitol as the highest level of emergency possible. And I don't see anyone else stalling on dispatching national guard other than him.

In response to blackchubby I now think you're right that the people who were there are going to get arrested. I saw alarming pictures and right now dozens of people who committed what I think are pretty serious crimes are at home. But FBI is collecting pictures and video and identifying people so there are plenty of professionals left in government. Not really pleased that capitol police somehow let people who commit felonies go, but maybe they were overwhelmed.

[broncofan]

I saw it on twitter but I don't know how many of you have seen all of the pictures. There is something chilling about seeing a man walking through our capitol waving a confederate flag. Someone pointed out that this never came close to happening during the Civil War.

So even though on one level it was a breach by conspiracy nutjobs that never had a chance of overtaking our government, there is something troubling about people freely walking around in our capitol waving flags representing treason and racism while the President calls them patriots and doesn't make any vow to arrest and prosecute them.

[Laphroaig]

It's shocking.

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...92214753726465



This was funny though...

https://twitter.com/xy467chr/status/1346967957302292481

[broncofan]

https://twitter.com/xy467chr/status/1346967957302292481

Lol. My benign intent was to storm the building that is the seat of our democratically elected government and dismantle it. Their overreaction was to spray something caustic in my stupid face.

People on twitter are discussing whether Trump should be impeached, whether 25th amendment should be invoked, or nothing. I think the 25th amendment is the wrong way to go if I understand it correctly. My understanding is that it's to cover physical or mental incapacity.

One could say Trump is mentally incapacitated but really it's meant to cover situations where the President has deteriorated. He's always been amoral and unfit in the same way he is now. I also don't support nothing on the basis of him being out of office in 2 weeks. The practical effect is not the point. Force Republicans to vote on this because what he's done is at least impeachable. It doesn't matter whether it changes the next two weeks.

[Laphroaig]

Lol. My benign intent was to storm the building that is the seat of our democratically elected government and dismantle it. Their overreaction was to spray something caustic in my stupid face.

People on twitter are discussing whether Trump should be impeached, whether 25th amendment should be invoked, or nothing. I think the 25th amendment is the wrong way to go if I understand it correctly. My understanding is that it's to cover physical or mental incapacity.

One could say Trump is mentally incapacitated but really it's meant to cover situations where the President has deteriorated. He's always been amoral and unfit in the same way he is now. I also don't support nothing on the basis of him being out of office in 2 weeks. The practical effect is not the point. Force Republicans to vote on this because what he's done is at least impeachable. It doesn't matter whether it changes the next two weeks.

My ignorance of American politics is probably about to show but can he still be impeached after he's left office? Most of what I've read suggests that whatever route might be taken, 25th or impeachment, would take longer than his remaining two weeks in office to enforce. So is this a purely symbolic gesture or does beginning such proceedings now carry more weight than if action was left till after he's out of office. Assuming he doesn't lock himself in the White House bunker which wouldn't be such a bad bet...