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    That's all a bit odd Stavros as I thought Dimbleby was "The Face of the British Establishment fronting the BBC1". Staggering if he's spoken out about the bias shown by his own media machine!
    As for last night, yet again a personal attack on Jeremy Corbyn about things he allegedly said 35 years ago during the Falklands conflict, troubles in Ireland and his dealings with HAMAS! Didn't see the interview with Mr's May as the sound of her voice makes me physically ill, sorry for my own bias there!
    It is a simple, if tired point. Do you want a Prime Minister who confronts and defeats terrorists, or one who sympathizes with them?

    Inside that question are many more -if it was wrong for Jeremy Corbyn to invite Gerry Adams to the House of Commons, was it wrong for the government to be talking to representatives of the IRA at the same time? Legally, yes, Corby was at fault, because the IRA/Sinn Fein were guilty of crimes against the UK and its citizens. Morally? Difficult, because it may have suggested to the IRA/Sinn Fein that they would get a better deal from a Labour, than a Tory government (as indeed was the case).

    If the USA describes HAMAS as a terrorist organization, why was that organization when it started up given so much support by the state of Israel, an ally of the USA?

    If Corbyn was soft on a United Ireland, sympathetic to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, is it not also true that Margaret Thatcher was a supporter of and gave a personal welcome to General Pinochet in 1999 even though his regime tortured a British citizen- Sheila Cassidy (the secret police had trained German Shepherds how to rape a woman when she was place in a prone position) -and did not that same party regard the ANC in South Africa as a 'terrorist' organization'?

    Corbyn's position on the Falkland Islands is indeed weak, I recalll at the time how the left ridiculed it as an imperialist adventure. It was in the early stages seen as crucial to ousting Thatcher from power. But if you step back and think, it would have made sense for the British and Argentine governments to agree a joint sovereignty arrangement which gave Argentina and the UK an equal share in the oil and gas resources of the Falkland/Malvinas basin (identified c1971), gave citizens equal access (because 99.99% of Argentinians are no more interested in invading and occupying the Falklands than the English are in living in the Outer Hebrides), and made all war pointless because both states were in agreement that co-operation makes more sense than conflict.

    And if it is the case that Corbyn cannot control his own party in Parliament, bear in mind there are ferocious beasts in the Conservative Party who unlike Theresa May have hated the EU even before the UK joined in 1973 and regard her with suspicion. They need her to win the election, they don't need her to carry on the negotiations. Look closely and you will see that there are as many cracks in the Tory party as there are in Labour.



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    A short note on polls -this article in the Independent argues there could be a hung parliament -
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7764271.html

    Martin Baxter of Electoral Calculus made this claim a week ago, but has since revised its forecast to give the Tories a 92 seat majority, with Angus Robertson -leader of the SNP in the Commons, losing his seat to the Tories. The micro-data they use shows that the most left-wing street in Britain is in the constituency of Brighton & Hove- a power base for the Greens, and possibly the 'gayest' (is this a word?) constituency in the UK. The most right-wing is in Knightsbridge, but let's not go there (especially not if you have a ts girlfriend who loves shopping, plastic stretches only so far, darling).

    http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

    http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/A...e30_part2.html



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    Are you saying Terrorism would be worse under Corbyn? I don't really see your point? As I've said; Corbyns views from half his lifetime ago(& he's 68!) aren't relevant to most voters today despite the media making out they are!



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    Oh, & how is Mr's May confronting & defeating terrorism? Almost 20,000 Police officers & numerous Border Force officers have been cut by her party & will continue one assumes as she never talks about party policies? Start sleeping with one eye open if these "strong & stable" people hold on to power!



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    Bit of Fluff #1



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    Bit of Fluff #2



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    Oi, Granddad, your girl did well for herself!
    Nice but Tim was, well, what can you say, nice?
    Funniest line of the night had to go to Leanne Wood, and her "There's no such thing as a free divorce", in response to Nutsac, er, Nuttalls' stance on paying fuck all in regards to brexit.
    (Sorry Jocks) Where the SNP there?
    Open derision for Rudderless.
    All things being even, and all politicians being aresoles, Jeremy Corbyn *is* Lord Of The Rings.

    OMFG, for the first time in my lifetime, we're looking at a possible LABOUR government!


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    I underestimated my age in that last post...Wouldn't want anyone thinking I was forty seven!


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    Just seen a live TV interview on BBC Breakfast with, of all people, Boris Johnson, trying to justify why his leader(Mr's May) was missing from a live TV debate yesterday evening....should of renamed it "Car Crash TV!" This election is getting very interesting.



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    I'm leaning towards the Monster Raving Loony Party, I love their manifesto pledge to introduce a 99p coin and a 30-day cooling-off period for the General Election at last something's making sense


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