The TS Jessy Dubai Case

[lifeisfiction]

So let me break this down for you:

1) We work in an industry where it's important to make guys desire you. Giving the impression that someone drops serious cash on you on a regular basis creates a sense of demand. There's an incentive to exaggerate the amount earned as it encourages others to spend. It also incentivizes to represent the guy's situation they are with as their own. If you're bragging about the bank you bring in.... you're probably not bringing in the bank.

2) Income like the cam model is discussing is fleeting. A high rollers interests will change over time and your income will drop like a rock. It's not sustainable income over the long run.

3) Someone else raised the issue of Luxury Items? A gift bought by someone who'd rather have a Macy's charge on their account their wife won't question.

4) Someone else raised the issue of girls who charge $1K plus per hour. That seems like a lot, but they aren't working a 40 hour week. I don't have significant insight on escorting as it's not my cup of tea, but from what I see from the girls I know do it: on average most will only see 0-1 clients a week. That's not exactly retirement money.

Are there girls who make money and squander it? Sure. But even if they didn't, they still wouldn't have a huge cash reserve to draw on.

Wendy I can only agree with one of these statements and that is many people in the porn industry don't save money. They are like some athletes who burn through their money quickly and do not realize once they stop or they get older it will be harder to generate the same level of income.

1k hour girls do not have one client a week and they do have people giving them a lot of stuff. Especially if they even do the Dubai thing. There was a woman had an article in the early 2000s about her escorting and charging 10k a night (New York magazine article) the truth of the matter she was pulling in serious cash. That wasn't reported in the Magazine and media. Her and others like her were quite busy. (Crazy part, she wasn't that pretty go figure)

Women in the industry get good things and it is based on their level of success. In the last decade and a half porn has become more competitive with more women and men entering the business. To be a top or recognized performer is not very easy at all. Hell it wasn't easy in the past. Comparing a top GG performer to a top TG may not be the same, but you can't say they're making farthings. We should differentiate not all women who do porn are escorts. Some women use porn to up their demand. With escorts, if you land the right client they will throw money at you. In addition if you're escorting Uncle Sam is certainly not seeing any of that money. Maybe few pay taxes and call it something different, but I wager the barn a majority don't pay taxes.

Again not all porn stars pull in the same money and doing one or two scenes does not make you a porn star. Of course like any profession based on physically abilities, you have only a certain amount of time before the body cannot keep up with demand. Not everyone is going to make millions like Jenna Jameson, but when you are top billed star you better learn to save you money. People don't do porn just for kicks.

[Wendy Summers]

1k hour girls do not have one client a week and they do have people giving them a lot of stuff. Especially if they even do the Dubai thing. There was a woman had an article in the early 2000s about her escorting and charging 10k a night (New York magazine article) the truth of the matter she was pulling in serious cash.

Here's the thing - talking about the early 2000s in relation to porn and escorting is like talking about 1950 -- the facts of that era have little to do with economic reality today. When the global economy went in the shitter, competition within sex work went significantly up. Increased supply pushed rates down. The 2000s also represents the early days of the internet... before tube and pirate websites were mining every paid website possible and stealing content. The money that existed then doesn't exist today.

Is Dubai a thing? Absolutely. But folks with those situations are small compared to the total number of escorts.

[Lester316]

Here's the thing - talking about the early 2000s in relation to porn and escorting is like talking about 1950 -- the facts of that era have little to do with economic reality today. When the global economy went in the shitter, competition within sex work went significantly up. Increased supply pushed rates down. The 2000s also represents the early days of the internet... before tube and pirate websites were mining every paid website possible and stealing content. The money that existed then doesn't exist today.

Is Dubai a thing? Absolutely. But folks with those situations are small compared to the total number of escorts.

Add in the fact considering very recent news going to Dubai as an escort is a perilous thing..

[lifeisfiction]

Here's the thing - talking about the early 2000s in relation to porn and escorting is like talking about 1950 -- the facts of that era have little to do with economic reality today. When the global economy went in the shitter, competition within sex work went significantly up. Increased supply pushed rates down. The 2000s also represents the early days of the internet... before tube and pirate websites were mining every paid website possible and stealing content. The money that existed then doesn't exist today.

Is Dubai a thing? Absolutely. But folks with those situations are small compared to the total number of escorts.

Escorts who make 1k hour do not have one client a week. Escorting has not changed night and day. The only difference is the amount of information such as reviews help weed out bad ones. Yes there is more, but they are all not good. In addition few stay in it for the long. Haul so to say it's drastically different is sort of a exaggeration.

Then I have to ask Wendy are you saying top porn performers are making less then they did a decade ago? Including all revenue streams, whether it is porn, escorting, and gifts? (Thanks to the internet it is easier to obtain all three.)

[Lester316]

Wendy I can only agree with one of these statements and that is many people in the porn industry don't save money. They are like some athletes who burn through their money quickly and do not realize once they stop or they get older it will be harder to generate the same level of income.

1k hour girls do not have one client a week and they do have people giving them a lot of stuff. Especially if they even do the Dubai thing. There was a woman had an article in the early 2000s about her escorting and charging 10k a night (New York magazine article) the truth of the matter she was pulling in serious cash. That wasn't reported in the Magazine and media. Her and others like her were quite busy. (Crazy part, she wasn't that pretty go figure)

Women in the industry get good things and it is based on their level of success. In the last decade and a half porn has become more competitive with more women and men entering the business. To be a top or recognized performer is not very easy at all. Hell it wasn't easy in the past. Comparing a top GG performer to a top TG may not be the same, but you can't say they're making farthings. We should differentiate not all women who do porn are escorts. Some women use porn to up their demand. With escorts, if you land the right client they will throw money at you. In addition if you're escorting Uncle Sam is certainly not seeing any of that money. Maybe few pay taxes and call it something different, but I wager the barn a majority don't pay taxes.

Again not all porn stars pull in the same money and doing one or two scenes does not make you a porn star. Of course like any profession based on physically abilities, you have only a certain amount of time before the body cannot keep up with demand. Not everyone is going to make millions like Jenna Jameson, but when you are top billed star you better learn to save you money. People don't do porn just for kicks.

Just wondering how do you know so much about these 1K an hour escorts? I noticed you've used an interview article from something like over 10 years ago as your point of reference (you'll have to pardon me on this too but New York magazine is that a real thing or did you mean a magazine based in New York?) but even in that case you are talking about just one person; then you mention things that weren't reported in the magazine or the media. Excuse my confusion but I can't quite work out how what you are saying is anything more than conjecture based on assumptive conclusions... well unless you were the high-paying client of multiple escorts or their pimp?

[lifeisfiction]

Just wondering how do you know so much about these 1K an hour escorts? I noticed you've used an interview article from something like over 10 years ago as your point of reference (you'll have to pardon me on this too but New York magazine is that a real thing or did you mean a magazine based in New York?) but even in that case you are talking about just one person; then you mention things that weren't reported in the magazine or the media. Excuse my confusion but I can't quite work out how what you are saying is anything more than conjecture based on assumptive conclusions... well unless you were the high-paying client of multiple escorts or their pimp?

Prior to ever engaging with escorts, I worked with something legally (not journalistic) with high-end prostitution rings. It was freakishly the most mind blowing thing to see. Besides that I have personally known a few high-end escorts and you would be surprised at the things they tell you.

I refer the New York Magazine (it's a real thing) because I thought the article was pretty good on what they knew. I knew far more than they did about the story, but that is a different story I do not wish to disclose nor can I really disclose anyway.

[Lester316]

Prior to ever engaging with escorts, I worked with something legally (not journalistic) with high-end prostitution rings. It was freakishly the most mind blowing thing to see. Besides that I have personally known a few high-end escorts and you would be surprised at the things they tell you.

I refer the New York Magazine (it's a real thing) because I thought the article was pretty good on what they knew. I knew far more than they did about the story, but that is a different story I do not wish to disclose nor can I really disclose anyway.

Fair play answers my question perfectly. I have to admit the New York magazine surprised me; it would be akin to us having a 'Birmingham' magazine here which wouldn't be good.

(For anyone who pops up to tell me there is a 'Birmingham' chronicle or some such I didn't mean like a local paper..).

[bigkid69]

What kills me is the guy arguing with 3 people actually in the porn industry about how much money is out there in the industry!! This is the kind of drama I love here at HA.

[Fitzcarraldo]

What kills me is the guy arguing with 3 people actually in the porn industry about how much money is out there in the industry!! This is the kind of drama I love here at HA.

Hey, maybe those three people are part of the conspiracy!

[nysprod]

Prior to ever engaging with escorts, I worked with something legally (not journalistic) with high-end prostitution rings. It was freakishly the most mind blowing thing to see. Besides that I have personally known a few high-end escorts and you would be surprised at the things they tell you.

I refer the New York Magazine (it's a real thing) because I thought the article was pretty good on what they knew. I knew far more than they did about the story, but that is a different story I do not wish to disclose nor can I really disclose anyway.

Life is fiction, as is this post lol