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    Quote Originally Posted by EZWind View Post
    As to the replies about don't blame the victim, I don't think that's exactly what's being said here. That implies the victim took an active part in bringing about the assault....a woman is raped....well, she shouldn't have been wearing such a short skirt.... she was askin for it (tho I think someone actually did say that) that's not what I'm saying.
    To me, it's more like the poor folks who lose their homes to a volcano. It's a terrible tragedy but no one blames the people for causing the volcano to erupt. By the same token, you gotta ask well, gee, don't you think there might be a better place to build your house than on the side of an active volcano? It's sorta the same thing in this case. Here's a guy who makes his living by fighting and has his name legally changed to a moniker suggesting belligerence who had a history of violence and even did a couple years hard time for assault. So it's not so much that blame is being placed on her so much as well, couldn't she have thought , ya know, gee maybe it might not be such a good idea to hang out this close to that active volcano.
    Did you really just compare a woman to a piece of property? That is so bad ... And yes, you are still blaming the victim.


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    IRL if a female friend of mine decides to date a guy who has a criminal record for domestic abuse, I'm telling her don't be an IDIOT. You're making a bad decision.

    It's really sad this girl got beat up, but why did she even date him knowing his history??


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    Quote Originally Posted by BBaggins06 View Post
    Did you really just compare a woman to a piece of property?
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    War Machine is an idiotic douchebag with a long history of violence and being repeatedly incarcerated. Some women such as Christie Mack love the bad boys. When he was in prison before this he had hot women writing him. It's best to avoid these types because playing with fire you'll get burned. I suspect any concerns she may have had had were overridden by the thrill and excitement of going with a dangerous man hence her tattoo "Property of War Machine"

    I don't blame the victim. My heart goes out to her and I hope that they throw away the key once he's locked up again. There are, however, lessons to be learned if you value your safety.


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    IRL if a female friend of mine decides to date a guy who has a criminal record for domestic abuse, I'm telling her don't be an IDIOT. You're making a bad decision.

    It's really sad this girl got beat up, but why did she even date him knowing his history??
    Sociopaths can be very good liars ...


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    Default Re: Christy Mack severely beaten by War Machine

    War Machine captured in Simi Valley, California:

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/15...ley-california


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    This is why we need single-payer health care.... Where everyone is covered, everyone is taken care of, whereby we care about one another.
    That's what public health care is: I care about you, I care about Christy, I care about everyone.
    Most doctors support this, most nurses, too.
    Up in Canada doctors are private... but the insurer is the state. In Britain it's different. Doctors work for the state.
    Probably Australia has the best possible system. Don't quote me on that -- ha ha!
    Anyway, I think we should care about one another.
    Plus it's far more efficient.
    But public health care isn't seen as politically realistic. Meaning: big pharma and big insurance don't want it.
    And corporations dictate public policy. They usually do win.
    We needed it for a long time. Doctors have become nothing more than sales people for big pharma, not only that, the food we buy into the grocery stores is nothing but chemical shit made into food-like products, even meat products are so filled with chemicals and hormones it's not funny.

    I bristle whenever the subject of public health care comes up on the cb, and the first thing I hear is these stupid redneck Rush Limburger wanna-be's yelling "communism!!" Everything that was feared would happen in this country under communism is already happening under crony capitalism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BBaggins06 View Post
    Did you really just compare a woman to a piece of property? That is so bad
    How so? The woman herself has declared this exact thing to be so w/ a permanent ink scar on her back "Property of WAR MACHINE"


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    ... And yes, you are still blaming the victim.
    Sorry, no..I'm saying the victim has clearly made a somewhat less than prudent judgement call here...if that's what you consider to be blaming, then ok, sure


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    Quote Originally Posted by EZWind View Post
    How so? The woman herself has declared this exact thing to be so w/ a permanent ink scar on her back "Property of WAR MACHINE"

    Sorry, no..I'm saying the victim has clearly made a somewhat less than prudent judgement call here...if that's what you consider to be blaming, then ok, sure
    Point is War Machine committed a crime. (Albeit there should or will be a trial.)
    Jenna Jameson referred to War Machine as a "monster." One could hardly call Christy Mack a monster.
    I've got a Manichean mindset on this one: the world being divided into good and evil. His intention was evil.
    OK, let's use an analogy. Say a soldier steps into a war zone and gets his or her legs blown off.... Do we then say: well, you showed poor judgement by joining the military. Again, this is merely an analogy.



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    Point is War Machine committed a crime. (Albeit there should or will be a trial.)
    Jenna Jameson referred to War Machine as a "monster." One could hardly call Christy Mack a monster.
    I've got a Manichean mindset on this one: the world being divided into good and evil. His intention was evil.
    OK, let's use an analogy. Say a soldier steps into a war zone and gets his or her legs blown off.... Do we then say: well, you showed poor judgement by joining the military. Again, this is merely an analogy.

    Dating isn't analogous to being in a live fire war zone where you know going in your life is in danger.

    If everyone is telling you the guy you think is hott beats women and has an anger management problem, if you still choose to date him you absolutely need to take personal responsibility when he knocks you out.

    No it's not your fault he hit you, but knowingly putting yourself in harm's way reflects poor judgement.

    When a vicious dog bites a stranger we don't ask 'why'??
    It's what mad dogs do, so whenever possible it would be prudent to AVOID them.

    Christy Mack seems to be either very naive or extremely damaged emotionally to be attracted to a guy who might physically assault her.

    And yes she knew beforehand.


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    Point is War Machine committed a crime.
    That's a fact indisputably. And he should, as I and many others have stated, burn in Hell for his actions

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    One could hardly call Christy Mack a monster.
    I certainly am not and I don't think anyone is

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    Say a soldier steps into a war zone and gets his or her legs blown off.... Do we then say: well, you showed poor judgement by joining the military.
    ...well, in a way, yes. Mind you, I am in no way denigrating those honorable people who decide to serve their country in that way, but unless you're drafted or otherwise coerced into joining the military, you have voluntarily decided to place yourself at high physical risk by entering into combat situations. Hmm, ya know, I think I'll become a coal miner, it's a good steady job w/ union benefits and everything. Well, looky here, I seem to have contracted black lung disease. Imagine that.
    The worse thing a certified public accountant gets is a fat ass or maybe a little carpal tunnel....you join the infantry you run the risk of stepping on an IED. Poor judgement or not...whatever the semantics of it may be...you make a conscious decision to enter into risky behavior, you should be prepared to accept the possible consequences. Just ask John Holmes


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