Is Tgirl a better word - and should that become the norm?

[GroobyKrissy]

I'm not profiting from listing the DVDs and sites on which I'm featured. It's a courtesy to the producers. And yes, I'm an SMC affiliate. But regardless, what you're really saying is that because I wish some terminology would change, I should make NO profit on transsexual porn AT ALL.

First you wanted to bait me into doing something to get myself banned, and now you want to try to bait me into leaving the niche ENTIRELY?

DAMN you're transparent!

~BB~

You know, you always throw the "You're transparent" line out there like that's a bad thing. You're right... I am transparent and I think that is good. I wish more people, businesses, and politicians were more so. That being said, the reason you're stating I'm transparent is incorrect.

I have never said you shouldn't profit off of porn at all. What I have pointed out is that you're being hypocritical in denigrating those who do perhaps profit from using the term "Tranny" while you do the same thing yourself. You also made a big deal about not using the term on your site itself, while using them to market yourself (when you say, "featured in" or "appearing on" - that is marketing - not a favor to another company) on your personal blog. That is hypocritical.

You offered NO disclaimers stating these now proven facts in any of your arguments, nor have you offered any VALID reasons as to why (an lame excuse is not a valid reason) - I had to go search them out. That is hypocritical and in fact, non-transparent.

If I am anti-killing puppies, I don't rail against it and then go hunt wolves and then sell their skins to make a profit. That is hypocrisy of the worst kind. That is the kind of nonsense you're doing and you need to be called on the carpet for it, and I, among others, have done so.

The way you go about doing things is hurtful at best and damaging at worst and you help no cause but the one swimming about inside your own head when you go about it like this... and I fundamentally disagree with it. That is why I'm vocal in opposition to your ideas, which I see as a cancer rather than a cure.

I've another approach that I'm working on... one that is tolerant, fair, transparent, and helps provide for inclusion between all facets of the TG community. It is something that I've spent a year or two now developing the relationships, marketing the idea, and getting backers for with success. This will be coming soon and I'm putting my money where my mouth is.

[BellaBellucci]

I have never said you shouldn't profit off of porn at all. What I have pointed out is that you're being hypocritical in denigrating those who do perhaps profit from using the term "Tranny" while you do the same thing yourself.

If it's OK for ANYONE to profit off the word (and again... I DON'T - your insistance that I do changes NOTHING), it's a 'tranny.' Last time I checked, I was transsexual. Black people profit from the n-word all the time because it balances out the harm done from it being used by others.

Again, according to you, my options are to accept the term once in a while or not work in the industry at all while all of the 'shameless shemales' make thousands that are then often given to more white men, i.e. plastic surgeons.

I defy you to find ONE instance of my using the words in question outside of the list of sites and DVDs on which I'm featured (that I DIDN'T name) located on my blog. But you won't, because it doesn't exist.

But I've said this repeatedly. You just like the repeat your talking points in the hopes that they'll catch on if you say them often enough. As I pointed out, this is nothing more than a political tactic last used to great success by Karl Rove. He must be your idol or something.

You expressed your opinion. I expressed my facts. Now let it die. It's YOU who hasn't proven a damn thing.

You know something? Just to prove my point, I'm going to remove the list from my site,. Now stop bothering me, dude. Go use your male privilege to harass someone else.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

And actually, while we're at it, I think you should stop calling yourself a tgirl. You're not. You're a crossdresser. It's false advertising.

So when can I expect you to 'put your money where your mouth is?'

~BB~

[GroobySteven]

And actually, while we're at it, I think you should stop calling yourself a tgirl. You're not. You're a crossdresser. It's false advertising.

So when can I expect you to 'put your money where your mouth is?'

~BB~

Tgirl DOESN'T necessarily mean transsexual.
You're a nasty piece of work Bella.

[BellaBellucci]

Tgirl DOESN'T necessarily mean transsexual.
You're a nasty piece of work Bella.

Not anymore it doesn't. But it should. This is one of those terms that was appropriated by men in dresses. For you to perpetuate the intentional conflation of terminology for profit is what's nasty.

The fans deserve honesty in marketing.

~BB~

PS: Way to deflect, there, mon capitan. Is Krissy going to change their branding or not?

[BellaBellucci]

No please, just don't post anything again. Being disrespected consistently off someone doesn't mean I'm in denial or at war. It means you're disrespectful.

Translation: you think you can boss and bully people around. You can disrespect them, but they aren't allowed to defend themselves. Got it. Double-standard understood.

~BB~

[zerrrr]

Bella,

You are certainly a passionate woman about many topics which is a very good thing. The Transgendered area (yes I am lumping CD/TV/TS all in one group because frankly there are too many labels) needs someone with your fire and passion because as Wendy said a few days ago 'after 15 years in porn you get desensitized.'

The Transgendered area can be looked at as an umbrella with the T in LGBT at the top. Under that T are the spokes which hold the fabric of the umbrella in place. Be it Transsexual, Crossdresser, Transvestite, and others.

Your anger and rage (yes it is both) is unfocused. You are attacking everyone for minor details when you should turn that anger and rage into helping others.

Instead of being so angry at others focus yourself on fixing the problems. Angrily responding to every post that you disagree with only continues to inflame the situation.

You are better than that. Focus your anger on fixing a problem rather than attacking others. The less you argue and the more you respect the more respect you will get in return.

The Transgendered area needs your passion not your anger.

[BellaBellucci]

Your anger and rage (yes it is both) is unfocused. You are attacking everyone for minor details when you should turn that anger and rage into helping others.

I think you need to go back and read the thread again as well as realize that Steven and Krissy have a history of attacking me for nothing more than voicing my opinion, which they are STILL doing. After all of these years, they're still trying to gaslight my perspective out of existence instead of discussing it rationally. I haven't attacked ONE person who hasn't attacked me first, but at the same time, why would I want to help anyone if they want to participate in behaviors that hurt me and people like me. I could care less about CDs or TVs because they could care less about me and mine, appropriating our identities and using slurs to sensationally promote the very natural activity of sex. I respect everyone's right to do as they wish, but that's as far as it goes. I don't have to condone it and I certainly won't stick my neck out for it.

Instead of being so angry at others focus yourself on fixing the problems. Angrily responding to every post that you disagree with only continues to inflame the situation.

What do you think I'm doing? I'm taking those in power to task, and clearly, if they have to perpetually resort to attacking me personally instead of debating the merits, they have no legitimate reasoning for their actions outside of their own selfish desires. If you think that challenging that paradigm doesn't have an effect on society, then I guess you don't know much about world history.

You are better than that. Focus your anger on fixing a problem rather than attacking others. The less you argue and the more you respect the more respect you will get in return.

Excuse me, but I'm the weaker party here, and I'm still fighting. Steven practically runs the entire niche, and Krissy is his sycophant who will do ANYTHING to find an excuse to oppose me on something; critical, objective thinking be damned. I'm overpowered and outnumbered and yet I'm still fighting for that in which I believe, and frankly, I'm offended that you would tell the victim of such a situation to be more respectful.

Furthermore, your opinion is uneducated if you've never lived the life of a transsexual, or even know the backstory that got us all to where we are with each other today. Nobody has ever won freedom by appealing to the morality of their captors, so if I must fight fire with fire, then so be it.

The Transgendered area needs your passion not your anger.

I tried passion. I got attacked mercilessly for it from the first day I ever posted here. That said, I don't give a fuck about the 'transgendered area,' because transsexuals, contrary to another of your uneducated opinions, don't need CD/TV people for advancement. If anything, they're an EPIC liability to the cause of mainstreaming.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

'I respect everyone's right to do as they wish, but that's as far as it goes.'

Rephrase: I respect everyone's right to do as they wish, but that's as far as it goes... as long as it doesn't hurt others.

~BB~

[GroobyKrissy]

And actually, while we're at it, I think you should stop calling yourself a tgirl. You're not. You're a crossdresser. It's false advertising.

So when can I expect you to 'put your money where your mouth is?'

~BB~

Again... you THINK you're hurting me by throwing this word around like it is an insult (and your word game referenced in a previous post is stupid - you intended it as an insult). You are not... and quite frankly, it is not. Like I've already stated, I am secure in the individual PERSON I am and content enough to live within the confines that MY life has with it right now.

From the business perspective (I'll address the personal nature of your attack in a completely new thread following), in the 8+ years that I have run my site using the term "Tgirl", do you know how many complaints I have had from a former Member or someone saying it is false advertising and wanting a refund? NONE.

In the 8+ years that I have run my site using the term "Tgirl", do you know how many negative comments, etc. I have received on my blog, etc. saying that I'm "just a crossdresser" ? TWO (and yes, i keep track of these things).The subject has almost never even been brought up by men at all actually. Instead, I find those who should be "tolerant" towards an actual POSITIVE representative of the industry, the TG community at large, and just as a person in general, to be the most intolerant - yourself, and other Transsexuals like you, who for some reason have this chip on your shoulder towards anyone who doesn't fit into your idea of what "Transsexualism" is.

YOU ARE THE INTOLERANT ONE AND THE BIGOT HERE - AWAKEN TO THAT FACT.