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    I hope thins work out for you. I think you are an intelligent young Lady, and a sweetheart.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows View Post
    Yeah, but Kimber is Kimber. If I were going through this two years from now, and was an established name, rather than someone who has had a strong debut and shows promise but is still climbing the ladder, then I could see maybe making the transition you speak of. But when I hear the words "not the same kind of money" and look at what my adult industry earnings thus far have been, it makes me doubt that making such a transition would be worth it lol. I hope no one takes this as me ragging on the industry -- I do feel it's been good to me -- but I was definitely still in the "paying my dues" phase of my career when it came to earnings.
    Fair enough. I'm just throwing ideas out there. Personally, I don't believe we should have ever had a 'dues' system. We're entertainers. Advancement should be based on talent and profitability, so I totally see your point. It's tough out there for a bitch. The bottom line on financial survival, however, is that diversification is key. Many of us in the business have to find multiple sources of income. Every little bit helps, even if one does have to change their expectations.

    I feel for you, hon. I really do.

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    Glad to see you back here again Miranda. I can't imagine the struggles that you go through from day to day. I wish you the best of luck. At least the weather is nicer down there than up in Canada. Here the roads and sidewalks are covered in ice!

    Have you ever thought of being a programmer? That trade is offering a lot of jobs but its a really tough industry to be in. You seem clever enough though. There were a number of freelancers I've met that turned it into a profitable skill. Anyways just an idea.



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    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Just woken up to news which truly gladdens my heart; with all of the issues still to deal with, nevertheless, you're still with us, Miranda.
    Yes Miranda, you do have friends that care about you. Let us know if there are ways we can help you. It is so good to hear from you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    Oh, and I don't think an inability to ejaculate is a death sentence in the adult industry, only in the trans niche, and sometimes not even then. Just look at Kimber. And there are others.

    Maybe it's time to focus more on non-gender-specific erotica instead of traditional 'tranny porn.' You won't make the same kind of money, but you'll still have a creative outlet. In fact, I have the same problem, and I'm making that transition myself.

    You are absolutely right. It's not even an absolutely "No" for companies like ours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows View Post
    Yeah, but Kimber is Kimber. If I were going through this two years from now, and was an established name, rather than someone who has had a strong debut and shows promise but is still climbing the ladder, then I could see maybe making the transition you speak of. But when I hear the words "not the same kind of money" and look at what my adult industry earnings thus far have been, it makes me doubt that making such a transition would be worth it lol. I hope no one takes this as me ragging on the industry -- I do feel it's been good to me -- but I was definitely still in the "paying my dues" phase of my career when it came to earnings.

    Miranda,
    I've posted about this multiple times and refer to it in my blog posts (which I might need to make clearer). Hopefully others will read this and when girls apply to be models, many times I make this information available.

    It's extremely rare or near impossible to make a living as only being a model in the adult industry. The economics simply are not there. There is no ladder to climb (or the view from the top isn't any different from the one at the bottom). The pay rates don't really rise much (if any) for established models who have a fan base.

    In fact, models just starting often get far, far more work than established models because they're the new "IT Girl". This gives the impression to the model, that they're going to continue to be the "IT Girl" and get shoots on that regularity (again, I've preached this so many times). It doesn't happen, the shoots tend to drop off.

    It's simply unsustainable for a girl to expect to make a proper living purely as model in this industry. She has to have other sources of income - and whether that's running her own sites/clips stores, working on cams, doing other adult work or having a non-adult job, they both take a lot more effort and commitment.


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    " until about two hours ago, so I'm a bit confused by reports that I had told Kelly of all people that I was stable and okay."


    Kelly? Who did you speak to?



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Miranda,
    I've posted about this multiple times and refer to it in my blog posts (which I might need to make clearer). Hopefully others will read this and when girls apply to be models, many times I make this information available.

    It's extremely rare or near impossible to make a living as only being a model in the adult industry. The economics simply are not there. There is no ladder to climb (or the view from the top isn't any different from the one at the bottom). The pay rates don't really rise much (if any) for established models who have a fan base.

    In fact, models just starting often get far, far more work than established models because they're the new "IT Girl". This gives the impression to the model, that they're going to continue to be the "IT Girl" and get shoots on that regularity (again, I've preached this so many times). It doesn't happen, the shoots tend to drop off.

    It's simply unsustainable for a girl to expect to make a proper living purely as model in this industry. She has to have other sources of income - and whether that's running her own sites/clips stores, working on cams, doing other adult work or having a non-adult job, they both take a lot more effort and commitment.
    I'm absolutely aware of that and must not be expressing myself properly. I will say however that if we state the unspoken truth that prostitution is the primary income of most girls in the industry, then being a Kimber or a Sarina does dramatically improve your earning power. Likewise, as you point out, alternate income streams such as your own website, toy lines, etc. are key to making it as a performer, and much of that comes AFTER people actually recognize your name. Yes, shoot income is generally at its height at the beginning. What I meant by "paying my dues" was raising the capital and building the brand name to be able to pursue those alternate income streams, as opposed to magically getting a 3 shoots a week all of a sudden, which as you point out isn't in the economics of this industry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    " until about two hours ago, so I'm a bit confused by reports that I had told Kelly of all people that I was stable and okay."


    Kelly? Who did you speak to?
    I hadn't talked to anyone. My last communication prior to being carted off had been the initial post of this thread. If Kelly had in fact told people that she "had spoke to [me] and that [I] was stable" then she was lying.


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    I spoke to a trans-girl and a guy who say they know you personally..something about San Francisco..and the girl said you were fine..not going to go into detail on here..and the LA girl is a pretty well known girl.

    After I posted this on my page, because I didn't want you to do something irrational.

    I really don't need to "Lie" I was concerned about your safety..that's it..

    I never said I spoke to "you" I said I spoke to your so called friends
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