Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman

[sabre666]

Thanks Fred.
Didn't mean to exclude anyone.
Old habits die hard.

[sabre666]

wow...that escalated quickly. lol

Yeah. Oops.
That old German-Irish temper does run a little hot!

Look Seachai, let's just agree to disagree and stop the name-calling.
It ill-serves both of us.
Deal?

[joeninety]

My contributions regardless if they were few or many, matter not. They will never equal the ultimate sacrifice of the men and woman who gave their lives defending their countries for freedom

No disrespect but you are just following the mantra that has been drummed into your head upon enlistment, freedom, democracy and sacrafice.......Wars are by products that just make a small few very very rich via asset stripping of the country they go to war with. Sad thing is gen pop buys into the company policy which is a shame really..... If more people were enlightened and compassionate like Manning then there would be no more needless bloodshed!!!

[joeninety]

Did you miss the HONORABLY DISCHARGED DISABLED WAR VET part? That is her "contribution to society". She and all other vets made that "contribution to society", enabling people like yourself the freedom to be whatever kind of snide, insulting wretch you choose to be.

This quote from "A Few Good Men", while a little over the top and I'm sure misinterpreted, spells it out quite well :
"Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to." : Col Jessup.

You are seriously naive..........you are nothing more than a foolish unquestioning drone its people like you that help perpetuate this fallacy of freedom and democracy......Its Bs, its all there in history, go do some reading and get back to when you find the truth!!!

[sabre666]

No disrespect but you are just following the mantra that has been drummed into your head upon enlistment, freedom, democracy and sacrafice.......Wars are by products that just make a small few very very rich via asset stripping of the country they go to war with. Sad thing is gen pop buys into the company policy which is a shame really..... If more people were enlightened and compassionate like Manning then there would be no more needless bloodshed!!!

I have to disagree with your premise if not your sentiment. Humans are a predator species. What makes us relatively unique is that, unlike other predators, we actively prey on our own kind. The only other creature that behaves like us is the Chimpanzee (who co-incidentally share 90% of our DNA, scary isn't it?)
Look back on history. Peace is the exception rather than the rule.
I wish things could be as you say, but human nature is what it is.

[sabre666]

You are seriously naive..........you are nothing more than a foolish unquestioning drone its people like you that help perpetuate this fallacy of freedom and democracy......Its Bs, its all there in history, go do some reading and get back to when you find the truth!!!

No, not naïve and most certainly not a drone of any stripe. A realist.

[sabre666]

You are seriously naive..........you are nothing more than a foolish unquestioning drone its people like you that help perpetuate this fallacy of freedom and democracy......Its Bs, its all there in history, go do some reading and get back to when you find the truth!!!

Not to be too blunt about it, but if it weren't for people like those who served, volunteers and draftees alike, You wouldn't be here to say what you're saying. Nor would I.
If straight and Christian, we'd be in a camp somewhere.
If Gay or Jewish, we'd be in an ashtray.
Horrible but true.
Sometimes war is a necessary evil.

[joeninety]

I have to disagree with your premise if not your sentiment. Humans are a predator species. What makes us relatively unique is that, unlike other predators, we actively prey on our own kind. The only other creature that behaves like us is the Chimpanzee (who co-incidentally share 90% of our DNA, scary isn't it?)
Look back on history. Peace is the exception rather than the rule.
I wish things could be as you say, but human nature is what it is.

Humans have a sheep mentality, shepherded by the wicked then so they will become, shepherded and raised by the meek then so they shall become too.

If we are all predators we would have wiped ourselves out many moons ago its the captains of our ships that determine which way our boat sails, whether that be to the path of violence or not. Peace is not the exception look around most people want to live in peace but the power hungry crazed defects like division, its far easier to control a un-unified herd, United we stand Divided we fall..........

[EvaCassini]

Actually, we aren't much of a predator species. What got us out of being "in the food-chain" was technology. Our brains developed more, that's why we don't have talons, large fangs, or ejaculate venom.

As a species on this planet, we have a much higher capacity to think our way out of trouble. That "predatory instinct" turned into a "Survival instinct". We adapted, with our brainstuff, to improve our lives for survival.

If shit were to hit the fan, one better hope to have watched a bunch of Nature Documentaries, especially now in modern times, where we are incredibly dependent on technology and consuming.

Our "leaders" want to keep the consuming instinct and fear of surviving within their followers because they gain profit. Profit, a man-made device used to collect more and more of a man-made ideological object, money.

[sabre666]

Humans have a sheep mentality, shepherded by the wicked then so they will become, shepherded and raised by the meek then so they shall become too.

If we are all predators we would have wiped ourselves out many moons ago its the captains of our ships that determine which way our boat sails, whether that be to the path of violence or not. Peace is not the exception look around most people want to live in peace but the power hungry crazed defects like division, its far easier to control a un-unified herd, United we stand Divided we fall..........

Interesting perspective.