The George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Travesty

[nysprod]

Go ahead, you can, doesn't mean you're right or know the situation first hand. If it was life or death and he shot him I don't blame him..

What, they cut off your frontal cortex too?

[maddygirl]

What, they cut off your frontal cortex too?

Hilarious. Almost as funny as the racist, stupid thread you created the other day mocking the Koreans who died in a plane crash. If anyone is lacking brain capacity, it's you, dumb fuck.

[nysprod]

Hilarious. Almost as funny as the racist, stupid thread you created the other day mocking the Koreans who died in a plane crash. If anyone is lacking brain capacity, it's you, dumb fuck.

The thread was about the stupidity of the TV newscasters who were dumb enough to say the names...Zimmerman chased and confronted Martin for no other reason than he was a young black kid...and it's only the idiot laws in Fla that allow self defense in cases where someone acts as an agresor that allowed him to get away with it.

[maddygirl]

The thread was about the stupidity of the TV newscasters who were dumb enough to say the names...Zimmerman chased and confronted Martin for no other reason than he was a young black kid...and it's only the idiot laws in Fla that allow self defense in cases where someone acts as an agresor that allowed him to get away with it.

Were you there? Do you KNOW that was the ONLY reason? No. So you can speculate all day as to what exactly happened, but you don't know. If Martin attacked him, he WASN'T the aggresor, he was defending himself..

[nysprod]

Ok, you know what, I was wrong to make that crack to Maddygirl, and I apologize.

I am a bit emotional over what happened in this case, but that's no excuse for inappropriate comments.

None the less, it was wrong, and I'm sorry I said it.

[natina]

a 17 year old teenager died becomes a Spanish heritage male wanted to be a cop and assumed Martin was a criminal up to no good when he belonged in that community.

Traayvon had a right to stand his ground
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/11/opinio...immerman-trial

The question that has not surfaced in the courtroom -- the elephant in the room -- is this: Did Martin fear for his life after being followed and confronted by a stranger while going to the store to buy candy and a soft drink? Was he, Martin, justified in standing his ground and defending himself when this stranger, an apparent stalker, approached him in a threatening manner?
Zimmerman didn't identify himself and never said he was part of the neighborhood watch group.
Think about it: We're told over and over that if Zimmerman was afraid of Martin, according to Florida law, he had the right to put a bullet in the chamber of his concealed handgun, get out of his car after being told not to by the 911 dispatcher and follow and confront Martin and shoot him to death.
At the same time, we are told that Martin, who had far greater reason to fear Zimmerman, practically and for reasons of American history, did not have the right to confront his stalker, stand his ground and defend himself, including by using his fists.

I don't know why people are pissed the Hispanic got off. The white guy wasn't on trial. The Hispanic got off with all white women the jury. What's the problem? If it was old white guys on the jury, then sure.

[runningdownthatdream]

Can you imagine what might have happened to this black kid had another out of work loser looking to protect 'his' neighbourhood seen him chasing after a white man's car?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...l?ir=Good+News

[fred41]

Can you imagine what might have happened to this black kid had another out of work loser looking to protect 'his' neighbourhood seen him chasing after a white man's car?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...l?ir=Good+News

Heard about that over the weekend. Kid probably saved that little girl's life. He's a hero.




...on another note. The way the article is written - It just seems odd that the cops couldn't find a guy with a maroon car with round taillights, and wearing green shoes, green pants and a red-and-white striped shirt. He reportedly walked with a limp.
Yet he's still on the loose.


lol..(yeah yeah...I know - he changed clothes ...and you don't see the limp while he's driving his maroon car...but still.)

[natina]

BREAKING NEWS ! a few things

NY Daily News' Powerful Trayvon Martin Front Page (PHOTO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ef=mostpopular

Justice Department To Review George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin Case

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ef=mostpopular

[Johnny.Blaze]

Read this on another forum. Just copied and pasted his post.

"I present to you the facts. I also included my opinion at the end but you can feel free to ignore that part.

Who:

• George Zimmerman: - 29 Years Old - Hispanic Male - Insurance Fraud Investigator - Spearheaded a Neighborhood Watch program after a string of burglaries. - Lives in a gated community in Sanford Florida. - Record of Assaulting a Police Officer

• Trayvon Martin: - 17 Years Old. - Black Male. - Student - Suspended from school for Vandalism - Participated in and refereed illegal MMA fights. - Lives in Miami Gardens, Visiting father's France's house in Zimmerman's neighborhood.

• Rachel Jeantel - Trayvon's Friend. Originally claimed to be his girlfriend. - Was on the phone with Trayvon during the moments leading up to the shooting. - Originally claimed to be 16. That's why she was not featured before the trial. She is actually 19. - Ms. Jeantel has offered a few variations of events. For simplicity we will use the version she gave during the trial.

Where:
Sanford Florida. Gated community where Zimmerman lives as well as Tracy Martin's fiancé.

When:
February 26, 2012 between 7pm and 8pm. It was raining and getting dark.

What:
-Trayvon was visiting his fathers fiancé.
-Trayvon went to the gas station to get skittles and iced tea.
-Zimmerman notices Martin walking through people's yards.
-Zimmerman calls the non emergency line for the Local PD.
-Zimmerman describes Martin to dispatch and requests a police officer.
-Zimmerman says These Fucking Punks always get away.
-Trayvon notices Zimmerman watching him as tells Jeantel it is a creepy ass cracker.
-Trayvon continues to walk through people'a yards.
-Zimmerman gets out his his car in order to follow Trayvon and see why he is traveling through people's yards.
-Trayvon tells Jeantel "The nigga still following me"
-Trayvon begins to run towards his fathers finances house.
-Zimmerman begins to run in order to keep sight of Trayvon.
-Dispatcher hears wind noise and asks Zimmerman what he is doing.
-Zimmerman states he observing the subject and trying to find an address for the PD to intercept Trayvon.
-Dispatch tells Zimmerman "We don't need you to do that"
-Zimmerman stops and loses sight of Trayvon.
-Zimmerman heads back to his car.
-Trayvon tells Jeantel that he lost Zimmerman and he is right outside his fathers finances house.

*Up until this point Zimmerman's story and Jeantel's testimony match. Now the stories diverge.*

Zimmerman's Version: - As he is walking back to his car Trayvon approaches him and asks, "You got a problem?!" - Zimmerman says "No" - Trayvon says "You do now" - Trayvon attacks Zimmerman and smashes his head into the sidewalk. - Zimmerman draws his weapon while Trayvon is on top and fires into his chest killing him.

Jeantel's Version: (From Trial) - Trayvon is outside his Fathers finances house. - Trayvon suddenly says, "Oh Shit" - Jeantel hears Zimmerman say, "What you doing here?" - Jeantel then says she hears a bump and wet grass sounds and the phone goes out.

My opinion: - Jeantel's version doesn't make sense. If Mr. Martin was already at his Father's finances house then the altercation would have occurred there and not over a hundred yards to the north towards Zimmerman's SUV.
I think what happened was Trayvon doubled back and went looking for Zimmerman. After all he didn't feel he was doing anything wrong and would've been pissed that a white guy was following him as wanted to teach him a lesson.


I think we had two hot headed individuals that both had opportunities to walk away.
Unfortunately they didn't and one was killed.
I believe that Zimmerman had every right to simply observe Trayvon and call the police.
Unless we can prove that Zimmerman walked up to Trayvon and started a physical confrontation with him then his claim of self defense should be upheld.
Just because Trayvon was annoyed that a (what he thought was) white guy was following him does not give him the right to use any physical force.
It all comes down to who threw the first punch. Based on witness testimony and the layout of the neighborhood I believe that Trayvon doubled back and went looking for Zimmerman."

You perfectly said it best. I fully agree with this. I wish people would just except the verdict and go on with their lives. I don't feel race had anything to do with this. If anyone in this case was being racist. It was Martin by calling Zimmermen a "white ass cracker" I'm still amazed that Jeantel had the audacity to say in court that "White Ass Cracker" wasn't a racial term.