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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesoul View Post
    ^^ wrong. making money is the shit

    I value intellectual stimulation and good movies over bull shit like "fast & furious 4" or another goddamn spider man remake.Hollywood is lazy but lucky for them the masses are idiots and don't care that they are being feed regurgitated crap.


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    Default Re: Political Correctness Has Missed Transgender?

    Quote Originally Posted by amberskyi View Post
    I value intellectual stimulation and good movies over bull shit like "fast & furious 4" or another goddamn spider man remake.Hollywood is lazy but lucky for them the masses are idiots and don't care that they are being feed regurgitated crap.

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    Somehow that is correct albeit a little harsh.

    Quote Originally Posted by amberskyi View Post
    I value intellectual stimulation and good movies over bull shit like "fast & furious 4" or another goddamn spider man remake.Hollywood is lazy but lucky for them the masses are idiots and don't care that they are being feed regurgitated crap.



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    Default Re: Political Correctness Has Missed Transgender?

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesoul View Post

    3. it's called acting- you know, the same way they got an irish guy to play oskar schindler (a german native)
    Spot on.
    Actors should be able to play almost any part. That kind of defines what an actor does. With certain ethnicity it is usually easier (not always) to find an actor of the same ethnicity..or close enough where solid acting can abolish the less obvious. The same holds true for gender....when it is visually obvious. Nowadays,males usually play male roles...and females usually play female roles. Since transsexuals are females,...they can be portrayed by an already available pool of female talent...unless perhaps the role calls for a very specific transsexual "look"....but that would then only open up very specific, stereotypical roles.
    It's interesting to note that the OP speaks of homosexual roles...however at least here in the USA, homosexual roles are not always played by homosexuals, just as straight roles are not always played by straight actors...because they don't have to be.
    ...and it isn't shoved down anyones throat.Kissing is kissing. People do it.Simple.



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    Default Re: Political Correctness Has Missed Transgender?

    Quote Originally Posted by amberskyi View Post
    I value intellectual stimulation and good movies over bull shit like "fast & furious 4" or another goddamn spider man remake.Hollywood is lazy but lucky for them the masses are idiots and don't care that they are being feed regurgitated crap.
    ...there are plenty of choices for you to see in the world of film.

    The big blockbuster movies make money because sometimes people after a long week just want to watch a movie version of eye candy. That doesn't always make it, or them, stupid...plus a lot of people need films that the whole family can watch. Spider Man type films fit that bill.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fred41 View Post
    ...there are plenty of choices for you to see in the world of film.

    The big blockbuster movies make money because sometimes people after a long week just want to watch a movie version of eye candy. That doesn't always make it, or them, stupid...plus a lot of people need films that the whole family can watch. Spider Man type films fit that bill.
    I'm not against blockbusters, what I'm against is unoriginal remakes of the same movies or spinning the same idea in slightly different ways.
    Of course one can argue everything is recycled but the cycle shouldn't be a couple of decades or less.



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    Amber, i love you
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    Default Re: Political Correctness Has Missed Transgender?

    Quote Originally Posted by amberskyi View Post
    I'm not against blockbusters, what I'm against is unoriginal remakes of the same movies or spinning the same idea in slightly different ways.
    Of course one can argue everything is recycled but the cycle shouldn't be a couple of decades or less.
    I would agree. The new,original Spider Man was totally unnecessary. Stuff like that.

    If you like small, but good movies, you often need to delve into foreign films. it gives you so much more to watch that you didn't often know was out there.
    As far as horror is concerned the Asian market has put a new spin on it the last decade or so...and it's been copied by Hollywood since then. I also love french horror...and have seen a lot of the movies quoted by Dino on other threads.
    The problem I often have with foreign films, when watching at home, is that I frequently like smoking weed before a film and that sometimes makes reading difficult...especially when the subtitles aren't written up to par. For instance, one of my favorite horror series is the Russian - "Day Watch" and "Night Watch"...but the subtitles are awful and it is hard (if you are just slightly stoned) to read the captions and still keep up with the visuals.
    ...but worth it never the less.



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    Default Re: Political Correctness Has Missed Transgender?

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    Since transsexuals are females,...they can be portrayed by an already available pool of female talent...unless perhaps the role calls for a very specific transsexual "look"....but that would then only open up very specific, stereotypical roles.
    i agree with everything you said except this part. M2F transsexuals looked upon as transgendered women. transwomen and gg are considered different- so it's actually more likely they will get a male to play the part of a ts (eg. the gwen arujo story, bad education, the crying game, breakfast on pluto).

    using a woman is usually considered much more risky and much more difficult to pull off (transamerica, tales from the city, orlando). don't believe me? check the budget for these films and compare it to the budget of the films with men playing transgendered roles. would albert nobbs be considered a trans-film? check the budget

    btw: i specifically left out comedies in my examples for obvious reasons

    and just to add: any film with transsexuals (M2F or F2M) as the main subject is automatically given a tag as having "gay and lesbian relations". this is done and enforced by the MPAA

    now, i know a lot of people aren't going to like what i said above so here is how to change it:

    1). support what you want to see. if you want to see projects with transgendered women- support them. if you want to see projects with transgendered men- support them. if they don't exist, find someone willing to make them and invest in them. then support them.

    2). support risky films. this includes independent and mainstream hollywood projects. if films that take risks make money, then more risky films will be made.



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    Default Re: Political Correctness Has Missed Transgender?

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesoul View Post
    i agree with everything you said except this part. M2F transsexuals looked upon as transgendered women- so it's actually more likely they will get a male to play the part of a ts (eg. the gwen arujo story, bad education, the crying game, breakfast on pluto).

    using a woman is usually considered much more risky and much more difficult to pull off (transamerica, tales from the city, orlando). don't believe me? check the budget for these films and compare it to the budget of the films with men playing transgendered roles. would albert nobbs be considered a trans-film? check the budget
    No no...I get what you're saying. But it still means you can use a pool of talent already existing...

    though I think that will change more with society's viewing of transsexuals as women.

    ...not to mention anything under the "transgender umbrella" can probably be played by anything under the "transgender umbrella"...as in "the Crying Game".


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