Boston Marathon

[sweetts18]

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#general ...more guns don't always mean more deaths.

[sweetts18]

Per capita... the highest rates of firearms homicides happen in places with the STRICTEST gun laws... hmm...

[fivekatz]

Per capita... the highest rates of firearms homicides happen in places with the STRICTEST gun laws... hmm...

A rather manipulated number derived at by using city laws and their death rates in states with lax gun laws. PA and IL are great examples where the flow into Philly and Chicago is unfettered by lax state safety requirements.

If having more guns made people more safe how come the US is the murder capital of the Western World?

[buttslinger]

Jesus, none of the proposed laws want to take away guns from law abiding citizens, they WOULD have taken guns away from those that would hurt people guns are dangerous!! How many times do some people need to hear it? Common sense gun laws make sense for republicans and democrats, if you don't know that you're a sucker.

[fivekatz]

Jesus, none of the proposed laws want to take away guns from law abiding citizens, they WOULD have taken guns away from those that would hurt people guns are dangerous!! How many times do some people need to hear it? Common sense gun laws make sense for republicans and democrats, if you don't know that you're a sucker.

Well in all honesty you have to be a bit of sucker to fall for the whole a $1M tax break for Mitt and a $100 tax break for you is a good deal. Or that health care for all is a BAD thing. So it is little wonder in the buffet of bullshit that the right is selling to people to vote against their own economic interests that folks would believe that any gun safety regulation means that the Arab/African President will personally man the dump trucks as they take all guns from lawful gun owners and give them to junkies, scary dark men and fast talking jews.

[sweetts18]

A rather manipulated number derived at by using city laws and their death rates in states with lax gun laws. PA and IL are great examples where the flow into Philly and Chicago is unfettered by lax state safety requirements.

If having more guns made people more safe how come the US is the murder capital of the Western World?

But wait... if the guns are illegal in the places where the crimes happen... then what does it matter where the guns came from to start with??? Didn't the "no guns allowed" signs stop them?

[sweetts18]

Jesus, none of the proposed laws want to take away guns from law abiding citizens, they WOULD have taken guns away from those that would hurt people guns are dangerous!! How many times do some people need to hear it? Common sense gun laws make sense for republicans and democrats, if you don't know that you're a sucker.

A gun is an inanimate object... its people you need to worry about.

[sweetts18]

Well in all honesty you have to be a bit of sucker to fall for the whole a $1M tax break for Mitt and a $100 tax break for you is a good deal. Or that health care for all is a BAD thing. So it is little wonder in the buffet of bullshit that the right is selling to people to vote against their own economic interests that folks would believe that any gun safety regulation means that the Arab/African President will personally man the dump trucks as they take all guns from lawful gun owners and give them to junkies, scary dark men and fast talking jews.

What if I told you that I am FOR the healthcare reform?

[notdrunk]

1) look up "all things being equal". Moreover that study is about homicides involving firearms, not deaths caused by firearms.
2) the federalist papers do not speak for all signers of the Constitution, they were in fact written to address those who opposed the Federalists.

1.) The whole current gun control debate is being pushed by crime (e.g., Sandy Hook). Suicides shouldn't be included. Why? Lets look at Japan and South Korea: Both countries have very restrictive firearm laws. Both countries have very high suicide rates. I can point out more countries with higher suicide rates than the United States. And, those other countries have restrictive firearm laws. My point is that suicidal people will find ways to kill themselves. Accidents can be fixed with proper education and training.

2.) James Madison wrote and proposed the Second Amendment to the Constitution. His insight on the Second Amendment is important. The Bill of Rights was to win over the Anti-Federalists. The original Constitution didn't contain a Bill of Rights.

[buttslinger]

A gun is an inanimate object... its people you need to worry about.

Just for the record, do you admit that guns are dangerous objects, ? just gimme that, come on. Careful, this may be a trick.