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    Quote Originally Posted by BrassVillanueva View Post
    No, actually, they weren't. Lanza stole them from his mother in the process of killing her. That's not legal.
    But how did the mother get them?



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    Quote Originally Posted by dderek123 View Post
    But how did the mother get them?
    Legally. But the fact remains that Lanza stole them and the incident at Sandy Hook once again brings up why should citizens have large capacity magazines for supposed recreational use?

    American citizens are guaranteed the right to bear arms but that was not without any limitation and only the gun lobby has been effective in taking so few words and defending them as absolute and without need of modern adjustment.

    With every death and there are many every day proponents of unfettered access to firearms end up further and further on the wrong side of humanity and real justice IMHO. The reasoning that no action will eradicate all violence is a weak and disingenuous obstructionist play.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fivekatz View Post
    Legally. But the fact remains that Lanza stole them and the incident at Sandy Hook once again brings up why should citizens have large capacity magazines for supposed recreational use?

    American citizens are guaranteed the right to bear arms but that was not without any limitation and only the gun lobby has been effective in taking so few words and defending them as absolute and without need of modern adjustment.

    With every death and there are many every day proponents of unfettered access to firearms end up further and further on the wrong side of humanity and real justice IMHO. The reasoning that no action will eradicate all violence is a weak and disingenuous obstructionist play.
    I agree. If the guns in Lanza's house were less lethal or not there at all it's logical to think that things could have happened differently.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BrassVillanueva View Post
    Because guns are easier to use.
    Thank you. That is why firearm regulation doesn't entail the regulation of paper clips, forks, knives or spoons (as you earlier suggested).


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    Remember the word "bear" is not synonymous with "own."


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrassVillanueva View Post
    It would be no easier for criminals to get them without gun control than it would be WITH gun control. That notion is absurd. Gun control has never and WILL never force criminals to obey gun control laws. They'll find guns regardless of how difficult the legal channels are made, because they don't GO through legal channels. What about this is so difficult to comprehend?
    If what I read before is true, then 100,000's of gun applications have been turned down through Federal gun registration checks. And we can make it harder for criminals by required private owners to register sales. Right now I could sell weapons to people I know are criminals without consequence. If I sold a vehicle, it would have to be registered. Seems like we have a pretty high compliance with vehicle registration.

    The spirit of fear that you live in in more dangerous that most criminals. It suppresses your immune system and other natural healing functions. Stress on the brain from worrying about imagined criminals coming after us, makes us seek out temporary pleasures, and more risky behavior in general. The spirit of fear is put out for profit. More people use a gun for suicide than shooting a criminal. With other things being similar, I would bet that I will outlive you for at least ten years, mainly from living gun free. Now if someone were to seriously threaten me or my family, that would be different. I have nothing against people getting guns to deal with specific issues. But I think we all need to be more aware of the hidden dangers of owning a weapon. This includes other people getting access, such as curious youth, or someone who has mental health problems, but also has some access to our homes. The Sandy Hook shooter had some mental health issues. There are legal consequences for letting people use our vehicles, but not guns designed to injure people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yodajazz View Post
    The spirit of fear



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    Oh, come on now; that's a lousy argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Remember the word "bear" is not synonymous with "own."
    Hmm... what about "keep?" ...can that be a synonym for it? ...and as to the picture of the paper clip and the gun... you DO realize that the average American citizen can't own the pictured firearm, right??? ...it's fully automatic, and thus subject to countless laws and restrictions... great job at using something scary looking for the knee-jerk though!



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    you DO realize that the average American citizen can't own the pictured firearm, right???
    Thank God!
    it's fully automatic, and thus subject to countless laws and restrictions
    As long as we're complaining about hyperbole, you do realize "countless" is refers to the size of the first infinite cardinal. The restrictions on fully automatic weapons is surely countable.
    what about "keep?"
    Do you mean as in the phrase, "Keep this safe for me until I return," or the phrase, "You get to keep this weapon until you're discharged?"


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    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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