Boston Marathon

[Queens Guy]

Wow that's a huge hole in his chest. Could that have been from a shotgun or AR 15?

When the two brothers were involved in a shootout Thursday night, the younger brother was driving a vehicle, and literally drove over the other brother as he fled.

I'm no expert on what wounds look like, but that may be from having a car driven over him.

[StlyeMeCunty]

When the two brothers were involved in a shootout Thursday night, the younger brother was driving a vehicle, and literally drove over the other brother as he fled.

I'm no expert on what wounds look like, but that may be from having a car driven over him.

I Just read an article which is states that the huge gash in the chest is a thoracotomy incision, which is used by surgeons to reach multiple organs in the area, many times in an emergency. These organs include the heart and lungs, as well as the anterior spine.
THE MORE YOU KNOW!

[trish]

I'm guessing that they will try to question him without the Miranda Rights for the purpose of gathering any intelligence info he may possess (if he remains conscious long enough to even be able to do that). As far as using his statements to convict him in a court of law - the issue would probably be moot anyway - I'm sure they have enough evidence against him without him saying a word.

Thanks fred.

[flabbybody]

After the tipoff from Russian authorities why did the FBI conclude this guy was not a threat ? They interrogated him on 3 occasions. as well as family members. Why did Russian intelligence see his connection with Islamic extremism yet we closed his file? It's only great police work if you catch bad guys before they commit their crime, not afterward.

[fivekatz]

Well I personally think the Obama Administration will work very hard to try this case in the criminal courts. Indefinite detention for "enemy combatants" is no more appealing to American values than it was when Senator Obama was running for President. I think the Administration wants to demonstrate you don't have to go all the way down the sewer hole to deal with terrorism.

And I know it is conflicted thought because 44 has no problems with hit squads to eliminate Bin Laden or flying a drone up the tailpipe of a high value suspect\target.

But anything that can be done not to add to the perpetual nature of Gitmo is a plus.

And the AG can probably compromise 30 charges against the suspect and still get convictions on another six charges that will ensure he spends the rest of his time in the Federal prison system.

[buttslinger]

I thought when they didn't release the photos to the public right away that they had an idea who the badguys were. I think on ANYTHING related to terrorism, law enforcement's concerns lean more toward not getting blamed for doing something wrong, than actually admitting this is going to be a long ugly business.

[BellaBellucci]

After the tipoff from Russian authorities why did the FBI conclude this guy was not a threat ? They interrogated him on 3 occasions. as well as family members. Why did Russian intelligence see his connection with Islamic extremism yet we closed his file? It's only great police work if you catch bad guys before they commit their crime, not afterward.

This 1000%. I'm ripping my hair out over all of this 'good police work' stuff. Do you know why they caught him? Because he never left Massachusetts. In fact, the younger suspect was only one block outside of the police perimeter when it was set up. That's actually quite lousy police work.

~BB~

[fivekatz]

I thought when they didn't release the photos to the public right away that they had an idea who the badguys were. I think on ANYTHING related to terrorism, law enforcement's concerns lean more toward not getting blamed for doing something wrong, than actually admitting this is going to be an
long ugly business.

Perhaps and not telling high value suspects you are on to them is sound procedure. The longer you know who they are and they don't know that you do, the longer you can collect intelligence.

But I think it is likely that the FBI concluded that the brothers were clowns and much more threat to the Russians in their ongoing occupation of Chechnya, than they were to the US.

And while their bombs were good enough IEDs, their lack of plan post bombing was glaring. These boys weren't playing suicide rules but once their photos got out the acted like panicked amateurs.

Any time a lead gets over looked to an eventual crime a mistakes had been made but in this case it may be a combination of Geo Politics and that the brothers were clowns.

[trish]

This

The significance of the trip was magnified late Friday when the F.B.I. disclosed in a statement that in 2011 “a foreign government” — now acknowledged by officials to be Russia — asked for information about Tamerlan. The request was “based on information that he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.”
The senior law enforcement official said the Russians feared he could be a risk, and “they had something on him and were concerned about him, and him traveling to their region.” Chechen extremists pose a greater threat to Russia than they do to the United States, counterterrorism specialists say, though some of the groups have had ties to Al Qaeda.
But the F.B.I. never followed up on Tamerlan once he returned, a senior law enforcement official acknowledged on Saturday, adding that its investigation did not turn up anything and it did not have the legal authority to keep tabs on him.

from

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us...?smid=pl-share

It's a delicate balance between Federal surveillance of a citizen and the expectation of privacy. In the U.S. people can have extreme beliefs about all sorts of things including religion and governance and still retain the rights accorded to all citizens by the Constitution. In hind sight perhaps the FBI should have kept tabs on these guys. Perhaps they did. Would further surveillance have required a court order? Were court orders requested? Denied? Questions which have yet to be asked and answered. I happen to think the FBI and the various Boston law enforcement agencies did a great job over the past few days after the shit hit the fan. Whether the FBI did a good job prior to the tragic event is a judgement that is at present difficult to make.

[red-cyberman]

Lebanese peered from YouTube and "brainwashing" Boston bomber
Tamerlan Tsarnayev affected by preacher Sheikh Faiz Mohammad inciting children to martyrdom

Source: http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/latest-n...%B7%D9%86.html