Boston Marathon

[dderek123]

Release the drones!

[fivekatz]

Holding onto the American principles of innocent until proven guilt is what is important, not what that constitutional protections would have on future terrorist behavior.

It is important because when we engage in Gitmo style opaque justice we lose just a little bit of the "freedom" so many who will yell for lynching and defend the 2nd Amendment.

"Off with their heads' is of course a natural first feeling but citizenship often comes with the heavy price of always consider due process, i.e. the law. Much of the Patriot ACT was as much an act of cowards as it was a bill conceived to give the executive more power while feeding the fears/anger of the masses.

[robertlouis]

A total fuckwit and a disgrace to America.

[GroobySteven]

A total fuckwit and a disgrace to America.

He's completely mental - it will be no surprise when he grabs a gun and takes out a building.

[GroobySteven]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...9zK/story.html

Looks like they got them.

[maxpower]

White hat is still at large.

[Prospero]

One bombing suspect now reported to have been "shot dead" the other stillon the loose. This posted at 04.30 Boston time.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...watertown.html

THE HUNT FOR SUSPECT TWO
Between one and two in the morning, after shooting scenes in two Boston suburbs, a man was reportedly taken into custody. “One marathon suspect has been captured, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation,” the Boston Globe reported on its Web site. “Another remains on the loose in Watertown after a firefight with police.” By four in the morning, there was one important change: the Middlesex County District Attorney released a statement saying that the suspect who was caught had also been shot; he had been taken to a hospital, and he was now “deceased.” They were still chasing the second man.



Ed Davis, the Boston police commissioner, came out to say that “what we are looking for now is a suspect consistent with the description of Suspect No. 2”—“the white-capped individual” whose picture had been released by the F.B.I. in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings. (Davis also tweeted, “White hat suspect at large.”) He showed a security-video image from a 7-Eleven, and said that “several explosive devices were discharged from the car at the police officers.” He called him a terrorist; he told people to be careful.

For hours, there had been no confirmation that this was about the Boston Marathon bombings, as opposed to a campus shooting or a carjacking or something else. There were only guesses, extrapolations from things like sightings of a clutch of F.B.I. agents in Watertown, where there were scores of local officers and a helicopter circling. The caveats were based on knowing that at this moment, with all the fear in the city, something could easily look like what it wasn’t. The one point of agreement was that an M.I.T. police officer was already dead. The university released a statement saying that it was “heartbroken.” A Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority officer had been shot, too, and was in the hospital.

Here is how the narrative of the night began: just after 5 P.M., the F.B.I. released photographs of Suspect One and Suspect Two, men who looked relatively young. Suspect One had on a black baseball cap, and Suspect Two a white one, and the face of Suspect Two, in particular, was clear enough to recognize. He was the one the F.B.I. said had dropped a bag near the marathon finish line, just before one of the blasts. Then, six hours later, M.I.T. issued an alert saying that there was gunfire on campus, at 10:48, near its Building 32: “The area is cordoned off.” In rapid succession, there were reports of injuries and advisories that everyone should stay indoors, an injunction that was in place until just before 2 A.M.

By then, half the world was listening to the Boston police scanner, and many rushed to Watertown, reporting on what they saw by way of Twitter. Every word that could be used to describe a shot or a bang or a minor explosion came into play, mostly framed by confusion. The inventory of items people thought they saw or heard included grenades, pressure cookers, a bomb-squad robot, the screeching tires of getaway cars. There were tweets about a suspect told to take off his clothes—the guess was that it was to see if there were explosives strapped to his body. Just after 3 A.M., CNN broadcast video of a man, stripped and in handcuffs, being led to a police car; the network blurred out some of his nakedness, but his face was visible. (Since he is neither dead or a fugitive, it now seems that he is not one of the suspects.) On television, there was footage of the body of a man in a tracksuit on the ground. As the gunfire stopped, the F.B.I. released more photos, with better images of the suspects on the day of the marathon. It seemed that there was a chase.



The attention was now on Watertown, where the police had reportedly set up a twenty-block perimeter. An alert was sent to residents not to open the doors for anyone but the police, who would be going door to door, CNN reported. We are following the story, looking to unravel what happened tonight, and, just maybe, what happened about four hours into the marathon on Monday.

[maxpower]

The two suspects are brothers, Russian muslim immigrants from Chechnya.



BOSTON (AP) — Tamerlan Tsarnaev practiced martial arts and boxing, even aspiring to fight on the U.S. Olympic team. Dzhozkar Tsarnaev had been on the wrestling team at a prestigious high school and won a scholarship from the city to pursue higher education. Neighbors recalled the ethnic Chechen brothers, living on a quiet street in Cambridge, Mass., riding bikes and skateboards.

Two brothers, one dead, one alive and at large. After hours of only grainy images of two men in baseball caps to go on, a portrait gradually emerged Friday of the men suspected in the Boston Marathon bombing.

The brothers, who came from a Russian region near Chechnya, lived together on Norfolk Street in Cambridge. They had been in the country for about a decade, according to an uncle, Ruslan Tsarni of Montgomery Village, Md.

Less was immediately known about Tamerlan, believed to be 26 when he was killed overnight in a shootout. He was the stockier one identified in video released to the public, wearing a black baseball cap and khaki pants. He was involved in martial arts, and competed in boxing matches. According to a crime website he was once arrested for domestic assault on a girlfriend.

"I don't have a single American friend. I don't understand them." he was quoted as saying in a photo package that appeared in a Boston University student magazine in 2010.

He identified himself as a Muslim and said he did not drink or smoke: "God said no alcohol." He said he hoped to fight for the U.S. Olympic team and become a naturalized American. He said he was studying at Bunker Hill Community College to become an engineer.

Dzhokhar, 19, attended the prestigious Cambridge Rindge and Latin school, participating on the wrestling team. In May 2011, his senior year, he was awarded a $2,500 scholarship from the city to pursue higher education, according to a news release at the time. That scholarship was celebrated with a reception at city hall.

He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, Mass., university officials said Friday.

The school would not say what he was studying. The father of the suspects, Anzor Tsaraev, told the AP his younger son was "a second-year medical student," though he graduated high school in 2011.

"My son is a true angel ...," he said by telephone from the Russian city of Makhachkala. "He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."

Dzhokhar's page on the Russian social networking site Vkontakte says that before moving to the United States, he attended School No. 1 in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic in Russia's North Caucasus that has become an epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya. On the site, he describes himself as speaking Chechen as well as English and Russian. His world view is described as "Islam" and he says his personal goal is "career and money."

Tim Kelleher, a wrestling coach for a Boston school that competed in 2010 against Dzhokhar's team, said the young man was a good wrestler, and that he'd never heard him express any political opinions.

"He was a tough, solid kid, just quiet," said Kelleher, now a Boston public school teacher.

Deana Beaulieu, a 20-year-old student at Bunker Hill Community College who lives two blocks away from the suspects' home on Norfolk Street, said she went to high school with Dzhokhar and was friendly with his sister. She hadn't seen him since they graduated in 2011.

Speaking on the corner of Norfolk Street, she said she first met the younger brother in 2006 when she started seventh grade at the Cambridge Community Charter School and visited the family at their second-floor apartment that year. She recalled meeting the parents there.

"He was just a quiet kid," Beaulieu said of Dzhokhar, noting that she doesn't recall his ever expressing any political views. "I thought he was going to branch off to college, and now this is what he's done. ... I don't understand what the hell happened, what set him off like this."

Dzhokhar appeared in the video released by authorities on Thursday, identified as Suspect Number 2, striding down a sidewalk, unnoticed by spectators who were absorbed in the race. He followed Tamerlan by about 10 feet. He wore what appeared to be a gray hoodie under a dark jacket and pants, and a white baseball cap facing backward and pulled down haphazardly.

Tamerlan was wearing khaki pants, a light T-shirt, and a dark jacket. The brim of his baseball cap faced forward, and he may have been wearing sunglasses.

According to the website spotcrime.com, Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009, after assaulting his girlfriend. That report could not be immediately confirmed.

He was an amateur boxer, listed as a competitor in a National Golden Gloves competition in 2009. In a local news article in 2004, someone identified as Tamerlan spoke about his boxing and his views of America.

"I like the USA," Tamerlan was quoted as saying in The Sun of Lowell, Mass. "America has a lot of jobs. That's something Russia doesn't have. You have a chance to make money here if you are willing to work."

The paper quoted Tamerlan's trainer, Gene McCarthy, as saying: "He has a lot of heart. That's the key." It said he loved music, and played the piano and violin.

[flabbybody]

probably not the smartest move robbing a 711 when 20,000 cops are looking for you.

[Quiet Reflections]

probably not the smartest move robbing a 711 when 20,000 cops are looking for you.

It was actually the smartest thing they could have done for the LEO"s just not for them. If they hadn't done it then they might have been in the wind for a few more weeks and hurts many more people. At least this way the remaining guy is burning out and everything he does from here on out isn't a direct attack but just way to distract the cops and put off his inevitable death. The only real issue now is whether or not he kills himself or a bunch of other people in his final stand.