Fuck You AVN!

[nysprod]

They do to a certain extent. Seanchai's is what? TGirls.com, right?!

As to free site owners, they don't producer their own content, so they give away someone else's STOLEN content to bring in their traffic, viewers to which they can sell other products.

Seriously. What's so hard to understand?!

~BB~

What's not being understood is how exactly all this free traffic is being monetized so as to justify the 100's of millions of dollars being invested...and the advertising that "Spunk Lube" buys isn't the answer...lol.

And you're getting away from the original question, which is:
When a freesite buys a paysite it has damaged, how does it then expect to convince people who are getting porn for free to suddenly pay for it?

[nysprod]

OMG! Advertising!

Do you watch television? Do you watch commercials? Do you sometimes buy the products and sometimes not?

~BB~

What legitimate companies do you see advertising on tube sites??

[BellaBellucci]

What's not being understood is how exactly all this free traffic is being monetized so as to justify the 100's of millions of dollars being invested...and the advertising that "Spunk Lube" buys isn't the answer...lol.

You're fucking with me now, right?!

Depending on market forces, after one buys a paysite, they can either convert it for use as a traffic magnet (freesite) or decide to produce content (paysite). Some might even find ways to run a profitable freesite that produces content if they can take over the ENTIRE industry. I won't argue that it's not a long-term strategy.

~BB~

[nysprod]

You're fucking with me now, right?!

Depending on market forces, after one buys a paysite, they can either convert it for use as a traffic magnet (freesite) or decide to produce content (paysite). Some might even find ways to run a profitable freesite that produces content if they can take over the ENTIRE industry. I won't argue that it's not a long-term strategy.

~BB~

It's not the attraction of traffic...that's being accomplished...it's monetizing the traffic i.e. convincing people to buy something they're already getting for free (or simply depending on Spunk Lube to spend 100's of millions on advertising)...oh wait, the freesite will simply buy the Spunk Lube corporation and make the money that way.

[BellaBellucci]

What legitimate companies do you see advertising on tube sites??

Define 'legitimate companies.?'

According to Forbes, porn does a billion dollars plus a year in sales... and that's from 2001. That doesn't include accessory businesses that are much larger than 'Spunk Lube.' That's not legitimate enough for you?!

http://www.forbes.com/2001/05/25/0524porn.html

~BB~

[LibertyHarkness]

why dont you email fabian directly .. go visit xbiz/net look on forums under anything with fabian name on it .. he will happily explain to you how their engine works for tube site, for paysite, for advertising, for contract shooting , for DVD etc ..

[BellaBellucci]

I've explained it. Repeatedly. I'm done.

~BB~

[nysprod]

Define 'legitimate companies.?'

According to Forbes, porn does a billion dollars a year in sales... and that's from 2001. That doesn't include accessory businesses that are much larger than 'Spunk Lube.' That's not legitimate enough for you?!

http://www.forbes.com/2001/05/25/0524porn.html

~BB~

Legitimate = non-porn. Think dishwashing liquid.

Darling, the level of free porn available, not to mention internet penetration, has expanded considerably since 2001. And don't bother quoting 12 year old statistics from a different age and assume they indicate a forever, unbroken, upward path.

The record companies were making plenty of money in CD sales in 2001...now they're not although they have altered their business models. But those new models depend on selling something else, like publishing or live shows which, as should be obvious, is NOT readily available for free to consumers.

[BellaBellucci]

http://blog.cytalk.com/2010/01/web-porn-revenue/

Anyone have an even more updated figure?

~BB~

[nysprod]

http://blog.cytalk.com/2010/01/web-porn-revenue/

Anyone have an even more updated figure?

~BB~

First, there's no way to factually ascertain that info because porno firms are typically private, meaning they are under no obligation to provide certified, audited, financial statements (unlike public companies that sell shares listed on exchanges).

Next, the percentage attributed to China, with its government sponsored counterfeiting, pirating and intellectual property theft, is likely to be very inaccurate, which leads me to distrust these statistics.