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    traffic sells ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    Yes, but that goes back to an earlier question of mine...who's going to spend 100's of millions of dollars setting up free sites and buying paysites in the hope that people getting something for free are then going to turn around and buy it?

    It's like, you've already damaged the paysites' business by giving content away for free...then, you're going to spend money buying that paysite and continue to damage it buy giving content away for free?

    No.
    Because content ages. If you can offer something newer, or better packaged, or easier to access content, and you own all of the free alternatives which only offer the dated content, you've given yourself your own competitive advantage. And again, you're not factoring in advertising revenues.

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    traffic sells ...
    ^ This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    Somehow I don't think there's a lot of congressional interest in breaking up porn monopolies. They have better things to not do.

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    Ok, so what about Sean's theory: freesite buys paysite then shuts freesite.

    That surely hasn't happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    Ok, so what about Sean's theory: freesite buys paysite then shuts freesite.

    That surely hasn't happened.
    It all depends on how one wants to make their profit. One can also make money from this scheme because there are far fewer production costs (nearly none) to run a free site than a pay site, but sometimes a pay site is more profitable. Every deal is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    Because content ages. If you can offer something newer, or better packaged, or easier to access to content and you own all of the free alternatives which only offer the dated content, you've given yourself your own competitive advantage. And again, you're not factoring in advertising revenues.
    In order for that to be correct, you'd have to assume that the typical free tube site porn consumer has waded thru untold thousands of hours of "older" stuff available and is still so in need of more porn, he then has to buy. No.

    And I don't believe the advertising revenues are so great as to justify the 100's of millions needed to get into this business and then actually run it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    In order for that to be correct, you'd have to assume that the typical porn consumer has waded thru the millions of hours of "older" stuff and is still so in need of more porn, he then has to buy.

    And I don't believe the advertising revenues are so great as to justify the 100's of millions needed to get into this business and then actually run it.
    You don't have to assume that. You can always remove content as well. When you have that kind of control, you can tweak your model to make it profit however you want it to.

    Analytics can tell you a LOT about your traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    It all depends on how one wants to make their profit. One can also make money from this scheme because there are far fewer production costs (nearly none) to run a free site than a pay site, but sometimes a pay site is more profitable. Every deal is different.

    ~BB~
    That doesn't answer an earlier question of mine, which is "the reason why no paysite has ever set up their own freesite in order to drive traffic to their paysite (and garner all the advertising revenue) is..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    You don't have to assume that. You can always remove content as well. When you have that kind of control, you can tweak your model to make it profit however you want it to.

    Analytics can tell you a LOT about your traffic.

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    Whatever content is being removed cannot even begin to make up for the endless, limitless supply of free stuff becoming more and more available!


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    That doesn't answer an earlier question of mine, which is "the reason why no paysite has ever set up their own freesite in order to drive traffic to their paysite (and garner all the advertising revenue) is..."
    They do to a certain extent. Seanchai's is what? TGirls.com, right?!

    As to free site owners, they don't producer their own content, so they give away someone else's STOLEN content to bring in their traffic, viewers to which they can sell other products.

    Seriously. What's so hard to understand?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    whatever content is being removed cannot even begin to make up for the endless, limitless supply of free stuff becoming more and more available!
    OMG! Advertising!

    Do you watch television? Do you watch commercials? Do you sometimes buy the products and sometimes not?

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