X-critic also against Transsexuals

[TSPornFan]

I'm calling it night! I'm going jack off to Jenna Rachels in a hardcore scene! Good night!

[Willie Escalade]

Epic thread. What was it originally about?

[sherm13]

Epic thread. What was it originally about?

Here is a timeline, I'm sick and cant sleep so I have the time. I tried my best to piece this together:

It was about XCritic not recognizing the TS genre by stating the work wasnt good enough.

Then, XCritic used male terminology to describe TS performers and got snippy when grilled about that.

Also, XCritic said that Seanchai should spend more time advertising TS porn

XCritic replied and apparently will be starting a TS designation for performers.

From there, Franklin and Seanchai had a back-and-forth about the quality of TS porn produced by Grooby.

Then, an argument ensued when Franklin claimed men wanted to see hardcore scenes instead of solo, despite others who work in the industry stating that solo stuff sells more.

Frankilin also felt that the models on SMY were not of a certain "quality."

I chimed in about SMY catering to a wide variety of fans then was questioned about the quality by Franklin.

I learned from one poster that you are indeed racist if you do not wish to subscribe to blacktgirls.com

Then, a debate ensued about CD/TV/TS in porn that strayed completely off-topic the entire time. Arguments broke out between several posters.

Franklin then informed us all that Kayla Coxx appearing in TS porn is false advertisement, as is the appearance of any other CD/TV appearing in TS porn.

The question of what qualifies you to be on a TS porn site was asked a bunch of times, even after the question was answered

It ended with Franklin informing us that he was leaving to yank it to Jenna Rachels.

[Willie Escalade]

Thank you kindly for the summary! I'm about to celebrate the Lakers reaching .500 again...

[sherm13]

Thank you kindly for the summary! I'm about to celebrate the Lakers reaching .500 again...

The Celtics are at that same percentage. Both teams need to pick it up but I still have confidence come playoff time.

[GroobyKrissy]

Prove to me that I said that! I know you can't!

I clearly said that TVs not belong on TS sites.

I said poor quality TS models should not be in porn. I did not deny or question their status as TS women.

So, I already stated that I knew this "spelling out" was a foregone conclusion but since I just got laid, I am in a good mood. Here you go...

Earlier in THIS thread you said this:

"The site does not say that TV men will be featured. Shemales are TS women. TVs are not Transsexuals. A TV should not be featured on any TS site."

Let us break this statement down with all the implications intact. Let me first of all state that I am assuming you are smart enough to write what you mean, and not have to backtrack it later as "Oh, I didn't mean that."

"The site does not say that TV men will be featured."
First, I think we may agree that those who are appearing on a site like SMY, would not want to be called "TV men", which in effect IS calling anyone who you don't consider to be TS, a guy in wigs and dresses. Also, by stating it thus in that sentence, you are making the implication that the site features, what you designate as "TV men", a category of person that you've made implicitly clear, you find UNATTRACTIVE. So, connecting that thread of LOGIC, you are stating that the site features people that you deem unattractive and that those people are these "TV men" that you speak of...

"Shemales are TS women."
This statement should be inherently offensive to just about anybody who considers themselves to be TS, but I'll just give it to you for the sake of this conversation. Fine. Given.

"TVs are not Transsexuals."
So, here is where you make the distinction that those who you deem as "TV men" are not truly Transsexuals. This simple statement puts YOU as "the sole decider" of who is truly TS and who is not.

"A TV should not be featured on any TS site."

So, in conclusion, you DID in fact say (as I correctly stated):
1. People I find unattractive on TS sites I label as TV men.
2. Those people are not TS.
3. Those people do not belong on TS sites.

Let's just face the facts here. You cannot accurately define (STILL HAVEN'T DONE SO) what YOUR definition of "TS" is.

So, I will give you one last chance. This is all you have to write... with no excuses, no dodges, no "Oh, I already said that somewhere"., etc. Let's put away silly games and just get down to brass tacks about just how superficial and self-serving a person you really are:

"MY DEFINITION OF A TRANSVESTITE IS: ..."
"MY DEFINITION OF A TRANSSEXUAL IS: ..."

[ed_jaxon]

tell us more about you getting laid

[GroobyKrissy]

This is why I don't engage you in discussions because you make shit up as you go along.

And I totally know and believe there have been gay men posing as TS who have been featured on tranny porn sites, either unknowingly or with the full knowledge of the site owner.

Many of the girls have said as much on this exact same board.

But all I'm really focused on in this case is appearance, not who's really TG. It's not a huge issue for me because IMO whenever Seanchai posts a drop dead beautiful TG, it cancels out those girls I don't find particularly attractive.

Even when I look at a Playboy mag, I don't find every girl pure perfection.
I don't think it's reasonable in the TS genre to expect it either.

No. You don't engage because you cannot answer the questions that I pose to you directly. You ran out on the first conversation I had with you and you're running out again on this one. Both times you threw out a nonsensical generalization ("...because you make shit up as you go along..." in order to dodge and deflect the actual question.

As I did for Franklin, I will spell YOUR OWN WORDS out for you so you can stop wasting my time and start arguing with yourself.

This was your first response in this thread... basically "and yeah..." agreeing with the statements already made by Franklin.
"And yeah I don't like TVs being featured and them being sold to us as 'early transition' TGs. I KNOW some of those are just gay dudes working that hustle with a wig and lipstick."

Then later on:
"You all aren't getting that we're having a convo about SELLING and COMMODIFYING the concept of transgendered sexuality as a product. We're not defining what it meaning in a very personal sense to be transgendered. If you're asking me to purchase your vid because you're TG, you have to bring more to the table than just being a 'tgirl', however you want to define it."

The first statement logically contradicts the second.

In the first you ARE defining by implication that TV's are featured and sold as "early transition" TG's... something you find a turn off because of the whole "gay dudes working that hustle with a wig and lipstick" thing. That is, the two are interchangeable.

In the second, you make an incredible statement that "We're not defining what [sic] it meaning in a very personal sense to be transgendered." Well, that's very noble of you... or would be if you didn't already show that you do just that... based on looks alone.

Not making this up as I go along... THESE ARE YOUR WORDS.

[GroobyKrissy]

The question of what qualifies you to be on a TS porn site was asked a bunch of times, even after the question was answered.

Kindly quote to me where this was answered...? You can HARDLY call Franklin's circular reasoning of:

If you're TS, then you qualify to be on a TS site

an answer.

[sherm13]

Kindly quote to me where this was answered...? You can HARDLY call Franklin's circular reasoning of:

If you're TS, then you qualify to be on a TS site

an answer.

I answered the question but Franklin's answer does count, whether you agree or not. He did answer the question.

Here is my answer:

"The only qualification is for someone to appear on a TS site, whether CD/TS, is to appear feminine and interested in the scene. Look at Kayla Coxx for example. As Kayla, she delivers great scenes but that person is also a gay porn actor. Still, Kayla Coxx scenes are more feminine and passionate than a majority of other TS pornstars. That is my two cents, anyway."