20 kids were killed today.... so was the NRA

[talldudeil]

First of all you will never stop it. There are thousands of these gun on the street. You can however make it less likely to happen.

1) Ban assault rifles, those of us who do hunt would never be caught in the woods with a mac9 or AK.
2) Ban large clips
3) Charge $100 per bullet for the guns that are out there. (yes I know some calibers fit other non assault rifles sell them for a decent price but only 10-20 at a time not 500 or 5,000)
4) If they don't kill themselves, bring back burning at the stake (don't even start, his pain would be no less the the parents of those lost or the horror of those that survived, and yes I would lite every match and watch the MF burn to death)
5) Make ownership or possession of a banned gun punishable by the death penalty (and have a 30 day amnesty program prior to the law going into effect)
6) If you just have to blow off stream with a assault rifle I am sure there are many people who would be happy to open a gun range and you could rent the guns and shoot there.

If we really want to do something then do it right the first time, make the punishment fit the crime, make everyone know that if you are found with a banned gun you will die (and in most cases that is what you were planning to use it for, kill someone). This country has become so pansy assed politically correct that it make me sick. Don't want this to happen? Do something that will make people think twice or more before doing something. Don't pass some weak ass law that will go nowhere. I live in the only state that does not allow concealed carry. And we have one of the highest murder rates in the country. Think how it might be if law abiding people could carry concealed, the thugs would think twice before trying a robbery or jacking a car.

GET REAL AMERICA HAVE SOME BALLS

[thombergeron]

This .223 weapon sounds like more of the calibre of a target gun rather than an assault rifle like the AK-47 which, I believe uses 7.62 mm rounds. I believe most Americans are responsible people, and hate the anti-gun lobbyists hijacking such events, as they always seem to do. Simplistic reactionaries, they come across to me as.
that's my two cents worth.

Just so you are aware, for the purposes of our discussion here, .223 Remington is the same cartridge as 5.56x45mm, which is the standard rifle cartridge for the entire NATO alliance. All four branches of the U.S. military have issued 5.56 rifles as their standard rifleman's weapon for almost 50 years. The Candian Army's C7 rifle also fires 5.56. It is capable of penetrating a steel helmet at 500 yards.

Also, in light of at least three mass shootings involving assault rifles over the six months in the U.S., most Americans support banning them. So, by your definition, 62% of us are "simplistic reactionaries."

[Gillian]

Screw the debate about calibres. Any country that allows its citizens to own automatic assault weapons needs to take a seriously long look at itself.

Every country will, from time to time, have to deal with some nut job who goes on a killing spree. If he or she lives in a country where automatic weapons are readily available, then prepare to reap the whirlwind.

IMHO, the NRA's press conference just makes them and their supporters look like gung ho idiots ...

[trish]

Screw the debate about calibres. Any country that allows its citizens to own automatic assault weapons needs to take a seriously long look at itself.

Every country will, from time to time, have to deal with some nut job who goes on a killing spree. If he or she lives in a country where automatic weapons are readily available, then prepare to reap the whirlwind.

IMHO, the NRA's press conference just makes them and their supporters look like gung ho idiots ...

Agree

[martin48]

Agree

More than a teacher in every gun store, more than a president that actually gets off his arse and does something, much much more. Why do you Americans want so many lethal weapons in your homes and cars? I bet nothing will change, the NRA are the most powerful lobbying group in the US and no politician will stand up to them. Sad, sad - but you will keep on killing your kids, your students, etc, etc.

[robertlouis]

More than a teacher in every gun store, more than a president that actually gets off his arse and does something, much much more. Why do you Americans want so many lethal weapons in your homes and cars? I bet nothing will change, the NRA are the most powerful lobbying group in the US and no politician will stand up to them. Sad, sad - but you will keep on killing your kids, your students, etc, etc.

Yes - universal response in the UK to the NRA statement is sheer disbelief.

We, and I suspect the rest of the civilised world too, think that the gun-toting part of your country is mad.

For a party/lobby group that claims to espouse Christian values, it all comes over very Old Testament to me.

The NRA logic of armed guards in every classroom, armed teachers etc surely culminates in giving kids lessons on gun-handling from nursery school onwards.

[flabbybody]

More than a teacher in every gun store, more than a president that actually gets off his arse and does something, much much more. Why do you Americans want so many lethal weapons in your homes and cars? I bet nothing will change, the NRA are the most powerful lobbying group in the US and no politician will stand up to them. Sad, sad - but you will keep on killing your kids, your students, etc, etc.

America is too diverse and complicated to make sweeping statements about our values. Fact is, most folks from New York, New Jersey, and Conneticut feel the NRA are lunatics.
I can't speak for people from places like Texas and the deep south. Those cretans wanted to succeed from the USA when Obama was reelected. Most of us would not object.

[notdrunk]

Screw the debate about calibres. Any country that allows its citizens to own automatic assault weapons needs to take a seriously long look at itself.

Every country will, from time to time, have to deal with some nut job who goes on a killing spree. If he or she lives in a country where automatic weapons are readily available, then prepare to reap the whirlwind.

IMHO, the NRA's press conference just makes them and their supporters look like gung ho idiots ...

Automatic assault weapons aren't readily available in the states.

[buttslinger]

I can't speak for people from places like .....the deep south.

My Mom grew up in the deep south on a farm during the depression. Every kid had a gun, every kid had a pony. The only trouble they ever had involving guns was whem my mom and uncle would use up all grandaddy's ammo. They had common sense.

I had one close friend get killed hunting, and another close friend had his daughter murdered at work by a disgruntled worker who went on a shooting spree just after Christmas in Massachusetts.

Abortion and guns are the two hot-button topics in the US, just mention it at the Christmas party and watch the fireworks. I can see MANY good points from the pro-gun pro-life stance.

If Obama can't tighten up these sloppy gun laws now, he never will. I think he will, and really, that's all you can realistically do. Pass some Laws.

[Ben]