TS Adriella Vendramine attacked in Dublin

[tsadriana]

I have to wait till they allow me to acces this topic...im waiting for activation,thats why i couldn`t read.

[Schimmel]

Happened in Ireland? Typical.

[tsadriana]

Happened in Ireland? Typical.

Happens everywhere darling trust me,some sick twisted weack men who are not able to fight with men and they measure their pwers with someone like us or even with women.

[gslang]

this item has now been moved from their open forum "TS/TV Scene"
to a restricted "Ugly Mugs" section intended for escorts&staff to discuss and detail dangerous clients.
the initial report and reaction was cut&pasted above. if i remember the other 2 TVs were reported to have been hurt jumping from a window.

unfortunately, across the world, escorts have always been seen as easy prey to thugs.

[danthepoetman]

Lol!

[MacShreach]

With a hammer and knives! What a bunch of crazy, disgusting fucks (excuse my French)! And all of that for a little bit of dough… How can that be worth someone’s life. Fucking pigs these guys are. Just unbelievable!
I hope the poor girl makes it.
Is there any news of the two others? or has Adriella fought for the three of them?

It's not clear from the report whether this was simple transphobia or a robbery gone wrong, probably both. And no I am absolutely not condoning what these scum did, in fact I hope they have the same meted out to them threefold. I really hope this poor girl recovers, though she may be very badly damaged both physically and psychologically.

However it has to be said that in a situation like that, unless you are possessed of vastly superior armament, (which in my case would be the 12-gauge pump hanging above the fireplace,) any attempt to resist is shockingly dangerous. Yeah it's shit but you give them what they want and let them go.

There's shedloads of evidence--I don't have time now but I can look out some links if anyone asks--that in any situation where a TS/TG is confronted by violence, that violence will be more extreme, more vicious and vastly more damaging than were the victim a 'regular' male or female. It's appalling but simply, statistically true: where a man might get a sore face, a TS/TG may well end up battered to death; indeed there are many cases where it is clear that a murdered TS/TG had sustained sufficient injury to kill her (or him) many times over.

Why this horrible fact should be true is complex and relatively poorly researched. But everyone should be aware of the risks TS and TG people (of both genders) take, especially in, shall we say, less sophisticated parts of the world.

[danthepoetman]

However it has to be said that in a situation like that, unless you are possessed of vastly superior armament, (which in my case would be the 12-gauge pump hanging above the fireplace,) any attempt to resist is shockingly dangerous. Yeah it's shit but you give them what they want and let them go.

There's shedloads of evidence--I don't have time now but I can look out some links if anyone asks--that in any situation where a TS/TG is confronted by violence, that violence will be more extreme, more vicious and vastly more damaging than were the victim a 'regular' male or female. It's appalling but simply, statistically true: where a man might get a sore face, a TS/TG may well end up battered to death; indeed there are many cases where it is clear that a murdered TS/TG had sustained sufficient injury to kill her (or him) many times over.

Why this horrible fact should be true is complex and relatively poorly researched. But everyone should be aware of the risks TS and TG people (of both genders) take, especially in, shall we say, less sophisticated parts of the world.

Of course, I agree with you, MacShreach. But you have to keep in mind that it’s probably quite difficult to complain (in Ireland, from what I know) for simple robbery, as the money is the result of escorting. And I suppose that psychologically, it’s probably also quite difficult to let go of money so hardly made. Besides, we don’t know what the statute of these girls is in this country; we can’t be sure they are there in all legality. I would assume it should be hard for them to give everything to the first comer –and I’m sure there’s a lot of them…

[MacShreach]

I absolutely agree about the difficulties about making a complaint, though I think in most jurisdictions a complaint about a violent, murderous assault would be investigated before the complainants' fiscal posiition. In general terms, the law favours the complainer, after all. I would be the very last person to say something that might encourage attacks like this but the simple fact is that violent criminals intent on robbery are already in a highly dangerous, borderline psychotic frame of mind, which is why they habitually wreck peoples' homes and shit in their beds etc. Add to that the well described phenomenon of transphobia, which the anecdotal evidence overwhelmingly suggests will only add to the violence of the attack, means the situation is really grim for TS/TG people; they are left with the choice of not resisting, being robbed and possibly beaten, or resisting, which if it fails, will result in them still being robbed and possibly killed or as in this case put in a coma with who-knows-what potential longterm consequences.

Spending some time covering police courts would convince even the most sceptical, I think, that the former course of action, though unpalatable, is the better. Opportunist robbers will run when uncovered; if they don't, that means they're psyched up and tooled up and unless you have absolute confidence in your ability to physically overpower them, resistance is, as I said, shockingly dangerous.

[danthepoetman]

And of course, it is certain that no amount of money is worth risking your life…

[Nikka]

Is not the first time I read something bad about Dublin