Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

[martin48]

I see your point...all but one of us will be dead before the last human dies, therefore only one of us can wait for the species to go extinct.

But they will never know that they are the 'one'.

[Ben]

I think we'll all become vegetarians in a few decades. For a few reasons. Moral, healthful and environmental.
I mean, even the term meat is a euphemism. We do murder -- and yes murder is a fairly strong word -- these animals.
Pigs, chickens, cows and sheep do value their lives. Much like we do.
Anyway, we'll see, I think, a social and spiritual transformation in a few decades. As animals and the natural world gain more and more rights.
I mean, do animals deserve rights? What about the natural world? Should ants have rights? What about trees? Should a mountain have rights?
I mean, all of this is worth discussing.
At present pigs and cows have no value. The only value they have is on our plates. Sadly.

And addendum to my earlier post:

Walmart Facing Campaign To Break With Abusive Pork Supplier

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...campaign-pork/


Republican Congressman Gloats About Bill To Enable Animal Torture

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...nimal-torture/

[Ben]

From 4 years ago...

Ecuador’s Constitution Gives Rights to Nature:
http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/ec...hts-to-nature/

A very good step forward.

[Ben]

If Star Wars was made by environmentalists...

[martin48]

I think we'll all become vegetarians in a few decades. For a few reasons. Moral, healthful and environmental.
I mean, even the term meat is a euphemism. We do murder -- and yes murder is a fairly strong word -- these animals.
Pigs, chickens, cows and sheep do value their lives. Much like we do.
Anyway, we'll see, I think, a social and spiritual transformation in a few decades. As animals and the natural world gain more and more rights.
I mean, do animals deserve rights? What about the natural world? Should ants have rights? What about trees? Should a mountain have rights?
I mean, all of this is worth discussing.
At present pigs and cows have no value. The only value they have is on our plates. Sadly.

I won't be holding out for a "social and spiritual transformation". A powerful case can be made on environmental grounds for the consumption of less meat - certainly red meat. But, of course, we would have to prevent individuals owning meat-eating pets - no dogs, no cats. There is less of a case for vegetarianism on health grounds - and as for moral, that is debatable. It is argued then animals are different to humans, it that we alone have duties and hence rights - and we can enter freely into a social contract. This does not mean that we should cause unnecessary harm to animals, nor that we should aim to protect species and their environment.

We have a bigger duty (that is 'cos we are the only species that can assume duties in a legal sense) to protect this planet and all its species

M

[trish]

We need to start putting lions, tigers and bears on death row... right now! Murder cannot be condoned for any reason. In the interest of minimizing waste humans will be expected to consume the flesh of executed murdering carnivores. Just the other day I executed and ate my offending neighbor's cat, Fluffy. (Burp) There were still feathers in her belly.

[fred41]

Observe the majestic beauty of the wild cow in it's natural habitat! Cow mane flowing freely in the wind...moooooooooooooooooo!

[fred41]

This looks like a job for.....

[martin48]

Another pussy gone. Shame!

We need to start putting lions, tigers and bears on death row... right now! Murder cannot be condoned for any reason. In the interest of minimizing waste humans will be expected to consume the flesh of executed murdering carnivores. Just the other day I executed and ate my offending neighbor's cat, Fluffy. (Burp) There were still feathers in her belly.

[Ben]

We need to start putting lions, tigers and bears on death row... right now! Murder cannot be condoned for any reason. In the interest of minimizing waste humans will be expected to consume the flesh of executed murdering carnivores. Just the other day I executed and ate my offending neighbor's cat, Fluffy. (Burp) There were still feathers in her belly.

Oookaaay -- ha ha!