Make Sure You Have Valid Photo ID!

[onmyknees]

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You have a strangely inconsistent and arbitrarily selective world view..... You want tighter controls on everything from guns, to salt to soft drinks yet when states seek to eliminate even the possibility of fraudulent vote casting,even to the extent of helping anyone who needs an ID get one free of charge....you think that's an over reach.....too much government.

You went hysterical when the cops pepper sprayed some OWS protestors, yet when NYC cops sprayed mid town with bullets recently, you told us cops were trained professionals.

For weeks you attempted to tie political speech to the Arizona shooting, yet when Floyd Corkins walks into the lobby of an advocacy group with a bag of Chick-fil-A and a semi auto pistol and starts shooting, your outrage is not so much.

You've asked people if they're being racist , obviously realizing they'll strenuously deny it...then ask them why they're being so sensitive. Cute tactic.

You were the unofficial spokesperson for OWS, then when the anarchy, rapes and crime spree became apparent, you exited stage left...silently.

You were all over the stand your grounds laws in Florida as a potential reason for a shooting, yet when 18 are gunned down in one night in Chicago with no apparent motive.....nothing.

I think I understand

[trish]

I thought this was a thread about issues and not your personal animosity toward contributors to these threads. But okay. You have a strangely inconsistent and arbitrarily selective world view...you want loose controls on everything from toxins in our water supply, greedy bankers, oil companies, lumber and mining corporations, weapons manufacturers and their customers. Yet when the people seek to continue to exercise the right to vote that they exercised for two centuries without incident (other than past attempts to suppress that right via poll taxes, tests and outright violence) suddenly, just months away from a presidential election, you want to tighten things up. (See how that works)

Yes, cops ARE professionals. Let me see you deny it. Yet professionals accidentally kill innocent people. My point then (which is hardly relevant to this thread...but since you bring it up...) was that if professionals can make such consequential errors imagine what would have happen if ordinary wannabe gunslingers on the street carrying secret weapons opened up.

So let me thank you again for keeping this thread going.

GET YOUR VOTING ID IN ORDER and VOTE. Pass the word.

[trish]

Si usted vive en Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Luisiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Dakota del Sur y Tennessee y quiere votar este año, asegúrese de tener identificación vigente con fotografía válida, ya que ahora se requiere en estos estados. Asegúrese de que sus amigos y familiares tienen ID también.

Esto es especialmente importante si usted vive en uno de estos estados que podrían ir en cualquier dirección en las elecciones de este año. (Seamos realistas, ya sabemos cómo Georgia, Kansas y Tennessee a votar)

Además, si usted vive en Florida, asegúrese de que está siendo registrado para votar. Ellos han estado purgando personas de las listas por razones políticas.

Pasarlo bien.

[bobvela]

THERE HAVE BEEN ONLY TEN, COUNT THEM, TEN CASES OF DOCUMENTED IN PERSON VOTER FREUD FOR THE LAST DECADE.

Once again... you prove yourself to either be a liar... or a fraud... which would you prefer?

Remember Al Franken? Senator from Minnesota? Elected after a rather controversial election? ... by only 312 votes in fact... out of 2.4 million cast.

Did you know... at least 1099 votes were cast by felons who did not have the right to vote?

What do you call that? I'd call it VOTER FRAUD!

More so... do you think they voted 50/50 Franken(D)/Colman(R)? ... probably not... in fact... if they just voted 313/786... then Franken would have won... and that assumes a minimal vote for a Democrat (who tend to get the felon vote).

That's right... Al Franken... is almost certainly a Senator from the State of Minnesota because of VOTER FRAUD.

Care to withdraw your claims as to only 10 (known) cases in the last decade?

TO CLAIM OTHERWISE IN ORDER TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE IS THE REAL FRAUD.

What % do you think of people who speed are ever caught for their speeding at the time? 50%? 10%? 1%? It'd be awful silly to assume that the only people who ever speed are those who are caught... as discussed above... we've seen people in the last year be offered the ballot for people other than them... and only an ignorant person (ie you) would assume that these are one off cases... or are you one of those who when driving down the road and getting passed by speeders... assumes that only 10 people, nationwide in the past decade have ever been pulled over for speeding?

If you refuse to take steps to making such crimes more visible, then you do nothing but enable those who commit them.

[bobvela]

SFTB, what exactly do you think that O'Keefe vid shows? As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Eric Holder wannabe ran out of the polling place without trying to sign for the ballot, which is why he isn't in jail today.

To avoid being charged for actual voter fraud.

Later, he seems to be claiming he can't sign because there's something wrong with his hand.

That same hand issue is present in multiple 'attempts' to get ballots.

Notice there's a shot of him with his right hand all wrapped up. Folks who can't sign for some reason are offered a special or provisional ballot. These ballots are subject to further scrutiny and are not counted until the election board is certain they are legit.

Oh really? In most states (where you show up to vote) they do not check your signature against a known registry... instead, so long as you sign your name as best you can... you get to vote. Provisional ballots tend to be used for cases when the identity or eligibility of a person is in doubt... something that WAS NOT the case in the videos we've seen.

There is no way that goof could have successfully voted under someone else's name.

Really? I guess I don't recall any of the people HANDING A BALLOT TO HIM saying "We'll let you fill this out now... but it may get rejected later if your signature doesn't check out"... care to prove me wrong?

All that vid proves is that O'Keefe is an unscrupulous little con artist.

If we take what you said above as true... then you are right... thank god you are clearly talking out of your ass and know not of what you speak.

[trish]

Your point was already demolished. See post #91 and the also the post quoted therein.
But thanks for keeping this public service thread on the front page.

[bobvela]

The reason there is no voter fraud is because there's no money in it. People don't bother to commit crimes when there's nothing to gain.

*facepalm*

Really? So the recent claims in Mexico are... false?

OH WAIT! When looking for another link... I turned up a man who admitted to VOTER FRAUD... does this mean Trish's count is up to at least 11? I wonder how many others she (or you) have/has ignored? ... and those are just ones we know about.

Though still... drug dealers in Kentucky might disagree with what there is to be had through voter fraud... and that is just ONE example.

But some people are spending millions of dollars to try to stop you from voting. Don't let their anti-democratic dirty tricks stop you. I just got my ID so I could vote and I hope everyone else does the same.

But you still showed them! Rather than show up to the polls and say "I don't need to stinking ID!" you said "Eeek! I better get an ID!"

Good for you! and doing just what those evil people spending millions of dollars to try to stop you from voting wanted you to do... Having and producing ID when you vote!

[bobvela]

Your point was already demolished. See post #91 and the also the post quoted therein.
But thanks for keeping this public service thread on the front page.

On the contrary... as you often do you pointed to something else in the hopes it would refute something I said... while not comprehending anything that was said on the subject.

Alas this is a well known tactic of yours.

I'd love it if you could/would specifically refute something I say... but alas... we both know you are quite incapable of such rational thought.

If you will excuse me though, the hour is extraordinarily late and I must be off to bed.

Toodles!

[Cuchulain]

Once again... you prove yourself to either be a liar... or a fraud... which would you prefer?

Remember Al Franken? Senator from Minnesota? Elected after a rather controversial election? ... by only 312 votes in fact... out of 2.4 million cast.

Did you know... at least 1099 votes were cast by felons who did not have the right to vote?

What do you call that? I'd call it VOTER FRAUD!

More so... do you think they voted 50/50 Franken(D)/Colman(R)? ... probably not... in fact... if they just voted 313/786... then Franken would have won... and that assumes a minimal vote for a Democrat (who tend to get the felon vote).

That's right... Al Franken... is almost certainly a Senator from the State of Minnesota because of VOTER FRAUD.

Sorry, lad. As trish pointed out, we covered the Minnesota Majority bullshit already. They pulled their 'facts' out of their ass, greatly inflating the numbers, according to the Minnesota prosecutor who investigated most of the cases. He determined that almost all the former felons who registered incorrectly simply didn't understand the procedure for getting their voting rights back.

Any ex-felons (folks who didn't first fill out the proper paperwork to restore their ability to vote) who actually voted did so because they were able to register. The registration process failed. They had to have ID to register. For most people, that would be a driver's license, so asking for photo ID at the polls wouldn't have made any difference.

You CONs keep trying to drag this thread away from the new photo ID laws because you can't defend them. In the cold light of day, these laws stop far, far more legitimate voters than fraud because NOBODY IS STUPID ENOUGH TO RISK 5 YRS AND A 10K FINE just to cast one lousy fake vote.

[Cuchulain]

To avoid being charged for actual voter fraud.



That same hand issue is present in multiple 'attempts' to get ballots.



Oh really? In most states (where you show up to vote) they do not check your signature against a known registry... instead, so long as you sign your name as best you can... you get to vote. Provisional ballots tend to be used for cases when the identity or eligibility of a person is in doubt... something that WAS NOT the case in the videos we've seen.



Really? I guess I don't recall any of the people HANDING A BALLOT TO HIM saying "We'll let you fill this out now... but it may get rejected later if your signature doesn't check out"... care to prove me wrong?



If we take what you said above as true... then you are right... thank god you are clearly talking out of your ass and know not of what you speak.

Lol, what's the point? Everything you said here is bullshit.