Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!

[buttslinger]

Kitty Kaity, Those stats don't account for the American guns bought here and hustled down to Mexico to slaughter 50,000 innocent civilians. Big money for US Gun Companies!! YAY!

[SFTB]

For what purpose would a private citizen own this sort of gun ?

When the 2nd amendment was penned, the citizenry had just risen up and overthrown a tyrannical government, and that memory was fresh. As far as why would a private citizen need such a weapon now, well, for one example you could be driving down the street minindg your own business when an angry mob decides to drag you out of your car and smash your head in.

[trish]

If you have to call them "real facts" to distinguish them from facts, they're already suspect. Personal Liberty? Opposing Views? Really? There indeed has been some drop in crime in the U.S. attributed to the shift in demographics (on average violent crimes are perpetrated by angry unwanted young men...both fewer unwanted births and aging population are factors that depress crime statistics). In the "real" world we don't get to hold all other factors constant to measure the effect of a single variable. But luckily logic and mathematics can help: increase the hazards (read firearms) and you will increase the risk of injury.

[kittyKaiti]

Kitty Kaity, Those stats don't account for the American guns bought here and hustled down to Mexico to slaughter 50,000 innocent civilians. Big money for US Gun Companies!! YAY!

Our right to bear arms is not in any form causing the problems in Mexico. Mexico's shitty government, which is flooded with corruption and both its inability and refusal to pay its military forces and law enforcement enough money to actually want to fight the crime, risking their lives, is causing the sharp rise in violence. With large portions of the Mexican police forces and army soldiers also affiliated with the drug Cartels, the majority of the weapons used in these cartel crimes are acquired through corrupt police officers and treasonous Mexican army soldiers who provide weapons, ammo and other supplies to drug cartels. Mexico's inability to control and deal with its own crime crisis is their problem, not ours.

[SFTB]

If you have to call them "real facts" to distinguish them from facts, they're already suspect. Personal Liberty? Opposing Views? Really? There indeed has been some drop in crime in the U.S. attributed to the shift in demographics (on average violent crimes are perpetrated by angry unwanted young men...both fewer unwanted births and aging population are factors that depress crime statistics). In the "real" world we don't get to hold all other factors constant to measure the effect of a single variable. But luckily logic and mathematics can help: increase the hazards (read firearms) and you will increase the risk of injury.

wow, you just quoted statistics, without quoting any, stated facts, without stating one

Think of the irony of someone protesting the right to bear arms, under flashing banners for "shemale sex in public" and tranny gangbang ads. Oh wait, that's your right to free speech? So a literal translation of the right to bear arms for safety is wrong, because some sick broken individual goes nuts. But translating the right to free speech into something way beyond the founding fathers imagination is cool?

[kittyKaiti]

If you have to call them "real facts" to distinguish them from facts, they're already suspect. Personal Liberty? Opposing Views? Really? There indeed has been some drop in crime in the U.S. attributed to the shift in demographics (on average violent crimes are perpetrated by angry unwanted young men...both fewer unwanted births and aging population are factors that depress crime statistics). In the "real" world we don't get to hold all other factors constant to measure the effect of a single variable. But luckily logic and mathematics can help: increase the hazards (read firearms) and you will increase the risk of injury.

Are you attempting to say that the majority of crimes are committed because a dude had sex with a woman who had a baby and he doesn't want the baby? Less abortions increases crime? Can you even provide a link to anything that would show increases in abortion rates will prevent men from killing people?

[dabaldone]

Where did I indulge in wishful thinking. Please point it out. Where did I say I want to ban guns? Please point it out. I'm merely stating the fact that decreased regulation on firearms increases everyone risk of being deliberately or accidentally shot. I hold no hope of stopping the present trend of increasing firearm freedoms. I have no hope of changing the minds of fools who think the long history of armed conflict between U.S. citizens and the U.S. army () is what keeps tyranny at bay.

(By the way, shouldn't a good Christian like OMK be Church on a Sunday morning and not posting on a porn forum? What automatic weapon would Jesus choose?)

Indeed, assualt weapons are aptly named: their used to assualt and kill others. An average citizen with the "freedumb" to purchase all of these items legally caused the death of innocent people. And no, if more people had guns in the theater (the dumb argument used by gun nuts) more people would have ended up dead in th chaos.

These nuts who claim Obama is out to restrict gun rights are idiots. He allowed the ban on assualt weapons to expire (dumb). And has not taken ANY measures to infringe anyone's access to guns.

[BellaBellucci]

Kaiti, I <3 love you!!!

~BB~

[SFTB]

Indeed, assualt weapons are aptly named: their used to assualt and kill others.

We dont live in a society like Japan. We are one disaster or unpopular court decision away from chaos. Not just USA, but UK and Euro has seen plenty of their share of unrest lately. Better to be armed when the laws are thrown out the window.

[kittyKaiti]

Wah, wah, guns kill people! So many people die from guns and shit! We should ban them and it will stop people from dying!

Yes, 12 people died today from that shooting. Meanwhile, 57 people died today from cigarette smoking. And that happens everyday. In the United States, an average of 32,000 people are killed per year in some manner by a firearm, whether in a crime or on accident. Compare that to cigarette and tobacco use... well, I hope you feel like idiots. Nearly 450,000 deaths alone in the United States because of direct cigarette and tobacco use and the related painful diseases and cancers attributed to its use. That doesn't include the other ~50,000 Americans who die annually from inhalation of second hand smoke. SECOND HAND SMOKE ALONE, has a higher death rate than every gun death in the country. Want it in an easier way to understand it? ~500,000 deaths per year from cigarettes since the turn of the 21st Century: 6 million dead. Comparable with World War II Nazi genocide of Jews. Gun related dead, since turn of 21st century: ~384,000. IT WOULD TAKE ALMOST 16 YEARS OF GUN DEATHS TO EVEN BE COMPARABLE WITH ONE YEAR'S WORTH OF TOBACCO DEATHS. Have fun smoking though. It's totally cool.

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...aths/index.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...ects/index.htm