17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[natina]

Medical Report: Zimmerman Did NOT Suffer Head Trauma!

George Zimmerman, the wanna-be cop who shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead on Feb. 26, did NOT suffer brain trauma, according to a medical evaluation conducted after the shooting, the Miami Herald reports.


The report did say Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and black eyes. Standing at 5 feet 7½ inches tall and 204 lbs, Zimmerman was also described as “obese” in the report. The doctor wrote that Zimmerman did “not have any blurry vision or dizziness.” Though the doctor wrote that Zimmerman said he “got nauseous every time he thought of the night’s violence.”
According to the Duval County Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda, even though Zimmerman suffered injures on the night he killed Trayvon, the only reason he sought medical attention was because he needed a doctor’s note for work.

RELATED: New 911 Calls Released, Sanford Chief Bill Lee Fired


Here are more details from the Herald:


The doctor said Zimmerman had two cuts on his head which did not require stitches because they were already healing. His nose was fractured and hurt, and he suffered joint pain likely because of the assault, the doctor said.

“We discussed that it is likely broken, but does not appear to have septal deviation,” the doctor wrote. “The swelling and black eyes are typical of this injury. I recommended that he be evaluated by ENT but he refused.”

The records show Zimmerman takes a variety of medications, including pills that both elevate your mood and calm it. He suffers from sacroiliitis, inflammation of the joints in the lower spine. He also has had irritable bowel syndrome.


http://newsone.com/2023642/george-zi...dical-records/

[natina]

Zimmerman and the "Great Bodily Harm" Doctrine

The assertion that Florida law allows shooting whenever someone believes it to be necessary is a flat-out lie. The actual law of Florida is that “a person is justified in the use of deadly force” if “(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself...."

Florida’s rule that deadly force may be used to prevent “imminent death or great bodily harm” or “the imminent commission of a forcible felony” is the norm throughout the United States.

Like the majority of American states, Florida does not mandate that victims of a violent crime attempt to retreat before they defend themselves. The retreat rule is irrelevant, regardless of whether you believe Trayvon’s advocates or Mr. Zimmerman’s advocates....Even among the more restrictive states, such as New York, retreat is not required before using deadly force in the home - to prevent a burglary, robbery, kidnapping, rape or other forcible criminal sexual attack. Thus, whether you are in Lake Placid, N.Y., or Lake Placid, Fla., and someone attempts to rob you when you are walking down the street, you have no duty to retreat before using deadly force to thwart the robbery.

I've deliberately commented sparingly on the Trayvon Martin case because the actual facts of the matter are in such turmoil. So I apologize if this question has been answered elsewhere and I just haven't seen it.

But here's the part I've never quite gotten. Even if you accept Zimmerman's side of the story entirely, Zimmerman was an armed man tracking Martin and obviously scaring the hell out of him. In Zimmerman's account, Martin then jumped him and started beating him up. But even if this is the whole story, is that grounds to shoot someone? Just how much bodily harm do you have to reasonably expect before you're allowed to kill someone? After all, this wasn't in someone's home, and Martin wasn't trying to rob Zimmerman. He was a guy that Zimmerman was trailing. Surely "great" bodily harm has to mean more than just wrestling someone to the ground and throwing some punches, even in Florida? What does Florida law say about that?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...-harm-doctrine

[eccentricBlue]

Don't care
Don't care
Don't care....

[GroobySteven]

Don't care
Don't care
Don't care....

Then don't be a dick - click on another post instead of keep coming back in here seeking attention.

[eccentricBlue]

Then don't be a dick - click on another post instead of keep coming back in here seeking attention.

I'm not being a dick... I'm just calling out second hand slander.

[GroobySteven]

I'm not being a dick... I'm just calling out second hand slander.

No you said you "don't care" clearly you do otherwise why a) click on this thread b) read it c) respond.
If you've got something to say, then say it.

[eccentricBlue]

The whole premis of this thread is b.s. and copy/pasting bias news reports does nothing to advance rational thought. There, I said it, and now I'm done with this thread.

[giovanni_hotel]

The whole premis of this thread is b.s. and copy/pasting bias news reports does nothing to advance rational thought. There, I said it, and now I'm done with this thread.

The Miami Herald is a legitimate newspaper. They are reporting what has been documented in medical reports and interviews with medical professionals.
There's nothing 'subjective' about what they're printing in their newspaper.

You're mad cause you bet on the wrong horse.

BTW I totally don't believe Zimmerman was cruising Trayvon before he killed him. But that is a funny twist to the story that George had several hits to Black gay porn sites on his Firefox browser.lol

[eccentricBlue]

17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A) THIS HEADLINE IS BULLSHIT.
B) such talk only stokes racial tensions
C) "legitimate" news outlets are still bias
D) none of us have all the facts
E) neither Trayvon or George are/were saints
F) this should be no more than a local story
G) The media only jumped on this story because it was originally believed to be a white on black crime
H) I don't have a horse in this race so I dont care

[giovanni_hotel]

I don't see how medical reports are biased.
And having a 'bias' or slant doesn't mean the reporting is illegitimate.

The Miami Herald is a conservative leaning paper and in many instances covering this case they have defended George Zimmerman. They report whatever they can get their hands on, there isn't selective censoring in this case by the Herald to advance a point of view.

THere are plenty of 'facts' presented in this thread, borh from Sanford detectives and local reporters. It's up to you to decide whether or not they're accurate.
For instance, at first I just didn't believe Zimmerman was injured in this confrontation, but I've later seen his head with a bandage in a police video a day after the crime and a shot of the back of his dome during interrogation.

They may have been superficial injuries, but it does confirm there was a physical confrontation before the shooting.

No one's spinning IMO when it comes to presenting the known evidence in this case.
Sorry, but anytime someone is shot dead and the killer is allowed to go home without charge by police, that's going to become a national headline.

People who don't care, don't post. You care a little bit.lol