17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[jamesedwards]

Well alrighty Then I heard that. MI seems like a good place to live if you wanna carry, I think North Carolina is the same.

I remember a guy tried to break in to a house right across the road from my families house where I visited, and the owner saw him running and bust a cap in him and he took off running, bloody but he got him. He was never caught and the owner that popped him was telling the story to the sherrifs and they were laughing up a storm, spitting tabacco, and just laughing, dudes were turning red. I couldn't believe it, I was like "DUDES IS LAUGHING WITH THE COPS AND THEY AREN'T ARRESTING HIM?" Boy oh boy lol that was a site to see, and he's African america that shot another African american. They shook hands and that was it. Dude never showed up as far as I knew again to rob homie.

That is much more of an NYC issue... They have laws against the discharge of a firearm... for any reason.

Out where I live, if the cops were called because I fired into the ground, they would laugh at the caller.

Far as they are concerned, if I didn't shoot at someone, there is no issue at all.

I can't say about Martin/Zimmerman case. I wasn't there and I don't have enough info to even have an opinion.

But I do know this. Up here, in general, if you are a local with a permit, you will NOT be arrested unless you are intoxicated or there is something major out of whack with your account of events.

Why?

Because you are a local and they know exactly where to find you if they need to. Because, if you have passed the requirements for a carry permit here in MI you KNOW your sheriff and he knows you. Because, in most counties, the sheriff signs off on the permits.

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[jamesedwards]

That was a horrible beating and the thing is he was about to give the guy a dollar. They need to be found and charged and make sure it's the right guys. but it's going to be hard because he didn't recognize them they had on hoodies.

The headline said BLACKS, yet he said two were African americans and probably one Hispanic, yet the head line is BLACKS!

Not to change the topic but does anybody know these four tough guys? Maybe jesse or al or even nobama might want to lend a hand in helping a soldier in need.

[jamesedwards]

Trayvon Martin Witness Believes 'He Intended for This Kid to Die'

A closer look at the witness statements and audio testimony taken in the immediate aftermath Trayvon Martin's death provides the first insight into George Zimmerman's behavior after he shot the unarmed teen.
A man listed as witness 13 was one of the first people to approach Zimmerman minutes after the shooting. He saw him bleeding from the back of the head and nose. Zimmerman asked the unidentified man to call his wife for him.

"Let her know what's happening, been involved in a shooting and will be held for questioning," the witness told the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. "He was more like, talking like he was having a hard time, looked like he just got his butt whipped ... not like he was in shock, not like, 'I can't believe I just shot someone,' but like, 'Just tell my wife I just shot someone,' like it was nothing."

The woman told police that Zimmerman, 28, examined Martin's body as he slowly paced back and forth when the police arrived. She watched as they checked the teen's body and turned him over, eventually starting CPR. But he was already dead for five or 10 minutes, she said.
"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin...opstories.html

[jamesedwards]

Wow, and some say Prosecutors case is diminishing? Hmmmm we have to wait and see, things are looking up for the Prosecutors from what I see.

[Queens Guy]

Wow, and some say Prosecutors case is diminishing? Hmmmm we have to wait and see, things are looking up for the Prosecutors from what I see.

I'm not saying Zimmerman did the right thing. He should have stayed in his car.

But, add me to the list that think this material helps Zimmerman more than it helps the prosecution. You know from your work that Zimmerman only needs to establish a 'reasonable doubt'. I think he may have got there.

One thing about this case though, is that Zimmerman may be benefitting from the fact that so much of the picture painted by the media has turned out at least partially wrong. Those pee wee league football pictures look like a tiny tot. But, then we see the 7-11 video. Trayvon doesn't do anything wrong in the video, he' s just buying the skittles and iced tea, doesn't look like he's high or anything. But, he's not a tiny tot. He's taller than the clerk. If they had a fistfight, I'd bet on Trayvon winning. Maybe the clerk is really tiny, but that's the way it looks. Trayvon wasn't a tiny tot.

Also, NBC/MSNBC got caught pretty much making up stuff, with their edit of the 911 call. It was only 13 seconds, and they trimmed it down to 6 seconds, leaving out the part where the dispatcher asked for the race of the 'suspicious person'. It didn't save much time, but it made Zimmerman look worse than he was.

This is a compelling story. No need to make anything up. ABC went back and forth on the video from the night he was questioned. First it showed no wounds, then it did show wounds. CNN said Zimmerman said 'F-ing Coons' on his call to 911, then they said he said something else.

I think the media has inflamed emotions by not doing their job well. Just report the facts we know and hire analysts to go over the evidence. No need to make stuff up. If they had been reporting the story straight, saying they don't know when they don't know, maybe Zimmerman wouldn't seem to be benefitting.

[jamesedwards]

Yes if his defense can get the jury to believe that. Also yes Trayvon was tall but he was thin, there's nothing thick or threatening about Trayvon. If Trayvon was really a threat, Zimmerman had enough time to analyze if he could take him or not. Smart thing to do. But Zimmerman already knew big or small I GOT A GUN AND IT WILL CHOP HIM DOWN. So Zimmerman didn't care, he wanted to be a hero. I don't see this witness or the investigator helping Zimmerman, plus other things is going against Zimmerman. Again, self defense is the main course and the Prosecutors all they gotta do is show and prove, Zimmerman was the cause of everything and HE DID KILL Trayvon that's no doubt. The testimony of the investigator saying Zimmerman could of avoided this, just puts his self defense claim in the gutter. He had the chance to avoid it, but he chose to approach the situation, so that's what the Prosecutors are going for, and that will kill Zimmerman's self defense claim.

I'm not saying Zimmerman did the right thing. He should have stayed in his car.

But, add me to the list that think this material helps Zimmerman more than it helps the prosecution. You know from your work that Zimmerman only needs to establish a 'reasonable doubt'. I think he may have got there.

One thing about this case though, is that Zimmerman may be benefitting from the fact that so much of the picture painted by the media has turned out at least partially wrong. Those pee wee league football pictures look like a tiny tot. But, then we see the 7-11 video. Trayvon doesn't do anything wrong in the video, he' s just buying the skittles and iced tea, doesn't look like he's high or anything. But, he's not a tiny tot. He's taller than the clerk. If they had a fistfight, I'd bet on Trayvon winning. Maybe the clerk is really tiny, but that's the way it looks. Trayvon wasn't a tiny tot.

Also, NBC/MSNBC got caught pretty much making up stuff, with their edit of the 911 call. It was only 13 seconds, and they trimmed it down to 6 seconds, leaving out the part where the dispatcher asked for the race of the 'suspicious person'. It didn't save much time, but it made Zimmerman look worse than he was.

This is a compelling story. No need to make anything up. ABC went back and forth on the video from the night he was questioned. First it showed no wounds, then it did show wounds. CNN said Zimmerman said 'F-ing Coons' on his call to 911, then they said he said something else.

I think the media has inflamed emotions by not doing their job well. Just report the facts we know and hire analysts to go over the evidence. No need to make stuff up. If they had been reporting the story straight, saying they don't know when they don't know, maybe Zimmerman wouldn't seem to be benefitting.

[natina]

do not confront or pursue and expect to use SYG

Originally Posted by natina CAUCASIAN PEOPLE FOR ZIMMERMAN'S ARREST AND CONVICTION




STUDENT RALLY AT SEMINOLE COUNTY CRIMINAL CENTER - 3/19/2012

CROWD OF OUTRAGED CITIZENS AND STUDENT LAWYERS DEMAND GEORGE ZIMMERMANS ARREST AND NEW STATE PROSECUTOR FOR CASE AT THE SANFORD COURTHOUSE.

THE OUTRAGED MOTHER OF WITNESS SPEAKS ON THE CHILLING MOMENTS JUST BEFORE TRAYVON MARTIN'S DEATH IN HER DAUGHTERS BACKYARD




Originally Posted by natina

Originally Posted by natina amydaly will respond like fox news to any important issue in the black community.

facts stated in the affidavit about who was not calling for help and who the only OTHER REASONABLE EXPLANATION WOULD BE CALLING AND SCREAMING FOR HELP AS THERE WAS NO OTHERS OUT SIDE BUT ZIMMERMAN AND MTRAYVON MARTIN

AMYDALTY WILL CONTINUE TO DENY THE OBVIOUS JUST TO TROLL AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUES.

amydaly will respond like fox news to any important issue in the black community.

facts stated in the affidavit about who was not calling for help and who the only OTHER REASONABLE EXPLANATION WOULD BE CALLING AND SCREAMING FOR HELP AS THERE WAS NO OTHERS OUT SIDE BUT ZIMMERMAN AND MTRAYVON MARTIN

AMYDALT=Y WILL CONTINUE TO DENY THE OBVIOUS JUST TO TROLL AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUES.

[jamesedwards]

Well dam Natina just shut down the whole site with what she put up I was to put up what she had earlier.

[jamesedwards]

Lets say Trayvon did fight Zimmerman, fact is Trayvon had no gun, Zimmerman should of fought force with force not a gun shot. Listen to what the first video that Natina put up. I All this evidence for the prosecutor, I don't see this diminishing. The Prosecutors got evidence also.

Papantonio: Trayvon Killer Should Be Charged With Premeditated Murder

[jamesedwards]

And I keep saying the most critical point is that 911 call where they told him not to engage and another critical evidence is Trayvon's girlfriend log they have in their possession. Someone actually had the nerve to say she's not a witness, her testimony is nothing but hear say, get the fuck outta here with that, obviously they don't know what here say means in the court of law and how it stands. It's not here say because she is not getting the info from another person, she is actually a witness and the last person to talk to Trayvon, her testimony is critical. And Papantonio is saying the same thing I am saying, and Nancy, the investigator, etc. That investigator is a step on Zimmerman's neck also because he said "ZIMMERMAN COULD OF AVOIDED THIS SITUATION" that right there is a slam dunk!!!