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    You don't know what I have or have not done in her defence -or for that matter, what I am capable of doing- but the mere fact that her situation is being debated is itself a form of action.QUOTE]


    I think the above post underscores may point about liberals mistaking blather for action.

    I have no idea if CeCe is guilty or innocent. I quite simply don't know enough of the facts about the case. However it is my suspicion that if she has been in jail a year pending trial that the facts don't weigh heavily in her favor. As a general rule (and granted there are noted exceptions) most prosecutors don't bring meritless cases.

    I worked as a prosecutor and defense counsel in the armed forces for several years around the time of the first gulf war, and we were out for justice (We didn't care if the accused was black, brown or green). If there was a poor case then charges were not brought. I know it is a popular myth based on Perry Mason and LA Law type shows, but the vast majority of persons accused of crimes are guilty. I've worked both sides of the street on criminal cases and generally things are fairly cut and dried (often times the accused has been very helpful to the prosecution and provides a detailed confession).
    This is absolutely true! Often when the accussed is innocent the court would have found no probable cause to continue the case and it's dropped. The prosecutor won't pursue it, because he doesn't want the loss on his record. When they find probable cause? Tis tis ... the accussed usually starts opening up and telling what really happened, because they know they're in deep shit and want out with the least amount of punishment they can get. She's lucky she got a plea deal, and she got that because she admitted to what she did, and you can bet your left arm her lawyer told her to not bullshit the judge and to start being honest before the judge slams that gavel down. The court took her cooperation into consideration and reduced it to manslaughter. It's all pretty simple to me what happened. She got pissed off, screwed up, and killed someone for talking shit to her. Maybe next time, she'll just walk away like she should have.



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    The first circumcision that is known is from the walls of Egypt and this was before Christianity or Jews came on the scene. It has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. Males yes, females no, the Quran doesn't state anywhere in it circumcision on a woman, NOT ONE PLACE!!! The Bible also not one place!!!



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    Egyptian boys being circumcised
    from the tomb of the Vizier Ankhmahor and his wife Mereruka
    Sixth Dynasty (Old Kingdom, ca. 2300 BC). Relief on the wall of a tomb at Sakkara, Egyptian circumcision rite predates Abraham. Females should not get circumcised. It was meant for the men only. In Egypt they used the flint stone to take off the fore skin in circumcision rites.




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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Thanks for the link, a powerfully written piece, particularly this chilling statistic:

    Transgender women of color are at the highest risk of hate-based violence of any group, unsurprising for a group of people surviving under three oppressive yokes -- racism, sexism, and transphobia -- all at the same time. According to a 2011 report, 70 percent of LGBT murder victims were people of color. 44 percent were specifically women of color.



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    Ain't that some ish. I don't get why they title African american people as "PEOPLE OF COLOR" it's a stupid title, we are dark due to Melanin and we are different complexions not colors, Caucasian people have more colors to them than we do. This is crazy !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Thanks for the link, a powerfully written piece, particularly this chilling statistic:

    Transgender women of color are at the highest risk of hate-based violence of any group, unsurprising for a group of people surviving under three oppressive yokes -- racism, sexism, and transphobia -- all at the same time. According to a 2011 report, 70 percent of LGBT murder victims were people of color. 44 percent were specifically women of color.



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    I think People of Color are all non-whites.


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    CeCe's story was the front page Cover story of this weeks City Pages... the injustice is so plain to see I felt sick to my stomach by the time I finished reading the story

    http://www.citypages.com/2012-05-09/...-murder-trial/


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    so sad ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by TempestTS View Post
    CeCe's story was the front page Cover story of this weeks City Pages... the injustice is so plain to see I felt sick to my stomach by the time I finished reading the story

    http://www.citypages.com/2012-05-09/...-murder-trial/

    CeCe shouldn't have tripped out, and lunged and stabbed someone with a pair of scissors who didn't throw the bottle at her in the first place. That was stupid of her to do that, and is why she's in the hot water she is. Hell, they'll charge you with murder here in Texas for that too.



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