17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[trish]

Hi InHouston. Remember the good times we had back in 09? You've hardly been back to HA since you last attempted to correct my grammar. Remember

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...4&postcount=41
and
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...8&postcount=43

Hilarious! Good times.

[natina]

George Zimmerman Was 'Jekyll And Hyde,' Former Co-Worker Says
Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin to death last month, was fired from a job securing illegal house parties for “being too aggressive,” according to the New York Daily News, which quoted a former colleague of Zimmerman’s. According to the co-worker, Zimmerman worked for two agencies that provided security for house parties from 2001 to 2005.
“Usually he was just a cool guy,” said the former co-worker, who the newspaper didn't name. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When dude snapped, he snapped.” The Daily News said Zimmerman earned $50 to $100 a night for the parties. He was fired for being too aggressive with patrons.
“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
The new portrayal of Zimmerman comes as distinctly different images of both Martin and Zimmerman are being floated by people on both sides of the Martin killing. Zimmerman told police he shot Martin Feb. 26 in self defense after being jumped from behind. He has not been charged.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1392591.html

[natina]

ZIMMMERMAN STATED "they always get away" argument for racial profiling

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rvers-say?lite

Criminally Negligent Homicide

(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html

What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.

Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:

-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator

-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program

-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement

Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.

He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.

In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,

or the firing of the gun.

Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.

If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...

then he's guilty under the law.

[natina]

he accused his ex fiance of being the aggressor

How ironic is this picture..

But people are not playing and turned out by the hundreds in A Million Hoodies March in New York City today to protest the killing of Treyvon Martin. Treyvon’s parents attended the March and expressed their apprection for the turnout. Meanwhile when it comes to George Zimmerman, the plot thickens apparently he has quite the history of domestic violence in one incident, he accused his ex fiance of being the aggressor *side eye*

How ironic is this picture..
But people are not playing and turned out by the hundreds in A Million Hoodies March in New York City today to protest the killing of Treyvon Martin. Treyvon’s parents attended the March and expressed their apprection for the turnout. Meanwhile when it comes to George Zimmerman, the plot thickens apparently he has quite the history of domestic violence in one incident, he accused his ex fiance of being the aggressor *side eye*


Treyvon’s parents at the March






Beautiful thing to see people are all races united.


Heartbreaking pictures of children protesting









Howard University School of Law Representing..







More in Zimmerman’s domestic violence history

The court records concern a conflict between Zimmerman and his ex-fiancée, who filed a petition accusing Zimmerman of pushing her during an argument at her Orlando home in August 2005.
The woman reported Zimmerman had arrived at her home Aug. 8 and asked to talk. Later, when she asked him to leave, she said, he insisted on staying and demanded documents she had.
The woman said she offered to drop the papers off the following day, but Zimmerman became upset, took her cellphone and shoved her. A fight ensued, she said, and her dog bit Zimmerman’s cheek.
Zimmerman filed his own petition the day after his ex-fiancée’s, in which he claimed that she had been the aggressor in the fight. He said she called him Aug. 8 and invited him to spend the night.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,5472535.story

http://bymystique.com/2012/03/21/its...yvon#more-3291

[natina]

[natina]

WHAT A BROKEN NOSE LOOKS LIKE
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03...been-arrested/

Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman’s 2005 MySpace page “includes disparaging remarks about Mexicans.”
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/tag/george-zimmerman/

[natina]

According to the Miami Herald, Zuazo said that three years earlier, Zimmerman attacked her while the two were driving to a counseling session. Zuazo said she popped her gum in his face and he repeatedly smacked her in the face. In January 2002, she added, Zimmerman became enraged that she had come home late. They wrestled and he threw her on the bed, smacking her, according to the newspaper.
In September 2003, Zimmerman called police and reported that another motorist spat on him, according to reports, Zimmerman followed the man in his car until the police arrived. Daniel Osmun, the other driver, told police that Zimmerman was tailgating and that he spit his gum out the window "out of frustration."
Osum said that Zimmerman then pulled alongside of him, and the two argued. In a police report of the incident, Osum said “at one point, he thought Mr. Zimmerman was going to attack him." No charges were filed against either man.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1392591.html

[buds]

hey natina, why don't you stop diluting this topic with copy and paste stuff from the internet?

[InHouston]

How many black kids did you shoot for being "disrespectful" ?

None. I have a concealed handgun license myself, and because I carry at all times, I don’t respond to disrespect from anyone. Nor do I confront suspicious people during neighborhood watch. To do so is stupid and dangerous for both parties, because it introduces a weapon into the situation just like what happened to Zimmerman. And another reason I don’t confront or respond to people is because citizens in states like Texas and Florida have more rights to use deadly force than the police do. The police know it, and criminals know it too. It’s a monumental responsibility, one that I’ve contemplated for years and came to terms on the best manner in which to conduct myself in a composed manner to avoid unfortunate outcomes.

You can believe all the propaganda you like, but I’ve evaluated what happened to Zimmerman thoroughly. He meant well, and was trying to help the police but involved himself in a foot pursuit he’s not trained to handle, but had every right to do it. That doesn’t mean it was the smartest thing to do. Zimmerman’s boyish demeanor strikes me as naïve. He made two tactical mistakes in conducting neighborhood watch. First, he shouldn’t have revealed that he was watching someone. That is error #1. That will spook them and send them off running every time. Two, he shouldn’t have pursued Treyvon. That is just dumb dumb dumb. You’re not in uniform, and you’re just going to end up in an altercation with someone when you do that. Let uniformed police handle that situation. When I perform neighborhood watch, I’m armed with .45 pistol, 69 rounds of ammunition, a Taser, and handcuffs, and a police scanner for situational awareness of what’s going on around me. That is not to hunt and pursue people in my neighborhood. That is to protect me when I’m standing in my driveway all by lonesome at 3:00 am. My primary weapon is my cell phone with a direct number to police dispatch. When I see something that doesn’t look right, I retreat back into the house and call the dispatcher.

Just a few weeks ago at 2:30 in the morning a rogue car ran up my neighbor’s driveway and knocked over her trash can. Then pulled into the street and sat there with their lights blacked out for 20 minutes. It was a car with 4 black males in it. I called the Constables and told them what I saw. The dispatcher told me to remain in the house because they could be armed, and I did just that and used my security cameras to keep an eye on them until the police arrived, and they swarmed in on them like hornets; white and black cops included, and started yanking these guys out and throwing them into the back of their squad cars. Turns out, they were 4 underage black guys like Treyvon who were not a threat to anyone. They took one’s mother’s car without permission and were out riding around drinking and smoking weed, and ran over the curb and broke down in front of my house. They brought in additional squad cars and returned them to their parents and towed the mom’s car off and said over the scanner “The mom is very angry right now, and has been sitting up wondering where her son and her car is.” And that was it. Now imagine if I did like Zimmerman, walked down my driveway and confronted them? I would have had to deal with 4 young men pissed off, defensive, apprehensive, and could have gotten jumped and had to shoot my way out of getting my ass stomped in the street. I played it smart and stayed out of it.

Although Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder, the court and jury has to prove first and foremost of “intent” to commit murder. That’s not what he did. He ran point for the police trying to help them, and started getting his ass kicked which Treyvon had every right to do. But, no matter the circumstances, that put Zimmerman into a situation where he had to defend himself to save his life or avoid bodily harm. Treyvon should have never started beating on him. If Treyvon used his head, it was clear that Zimmerman wasn’t out to rob him. They’re both at fault. Therefore, it’s a wash. It’s a mutual-combat scenario they both could have avoided, and Zimmerman ended up on his back getting beat up. Did Zimmerman start it? Yes. Did Treyvon exasperate the situation? Yes he did.

Therefore, Zimmerman will be acquitted. And the riots will ensue afterwards.

[GroobySteven]

Although Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder, the court and jury has to prove first and foremost of “intent” to commit murder. That’s not what he did. He ran point for the police trying to help them, and started getting his ass kicked which Treyvon had every right to do. But, no matter the circumstances, that put Zimmerman into a situation where he had to defend himself to save his life or avoid bodily harm. Treyvon should have never started beating on him. If Treyvon used his head, it was clear that Zimmerman wasn’t out to rob him. They’re both at fault. Therefore, it’s a wash. It’s a mutual-combat scenario they both could have avoided, and Zimmerman ended up on his back getting beat up. Did Zimmerman start it? Yes. Did Treyvon exasperate the situation? Yes he did.

Therefore, Zimmerman will be acquitted. And the riots will ensue afterwards.

You made a lot of sense until this last paragraph. I don't think and have never stated that Zimmerman went out with intent and I agree with your summing up, up until the point of when he approached his "suspect". I don't think there has been any evidence of Treyvon attacking Zimmerman. Zimmerman created the situation, brought the gun and chose to pull the trigger. Shouldn't it at the least be manslaughter? If he is aquitted, then if I was American I'd feel like demonstrating in public about a misjustice.