Black Transgender Not Allowed to Claim Self-Defense ...

[trish]

Trish X

Yes mildcigar goebbels (you DO help spread progaganda that inspires nitwits to kill people based on their race and culture).

Where do you think you would be safer walking down the street, in the heart of nice Republican Orange County or in the deep blue heart of South Central LA? ... I'm assuming that you would leave your hoodie at home if you visit Orange County).

Trayvon was SHOT TO DEATH IN A GATED COMMUNITY. Even you admit that in order to feel safe from a threat of death in Orange County I have to dress appropriately. So no, I don't feel safer within any republican stronghold. Hell, how could I when they want to rape women with transvaginal ultrasound probes!!

On your second point, "self-obvious" is not a word. I assume you meant "self-evident." It's an old concept that goes at least as far back as axiomatic geometry of the ancient Greeks. They thought the axioms and postulates of Euclidean geometry were self-evident. They were wrong. Mathematicians no longer recognize "self-evidence" as a path to truth or an allowable form of argumentation. As to the spreading lies that have already been exposed and debunked...that's also frowned upon by those who value truth and reasoned argument. You're a BIG FUCKING FAIL! Oh, and "skinnedness"...it's not a word. Sheesh...what a low-brow!!

[mildcigar_2001]

Final warning on this sort of shit.

Yes mildcigar goebbels (you DO help spread progaganda that inspires nitwits to kill people based on their race and culture).

Trayvon was SHOT TO DEATH IN A GATED COMMUNITY. Even you admit that in order to feel safe from a threat of death in Orange County I have to dress appropriately. So no, I don't feel safer within any republican stronghold. Hell, how could I when they want to rape women with transvaginal ultrasound probes!!

On your second point, "self-obvious" is not a word. I assume you meant "self-evident." It's an old concept that goes at least as far back as axiomatic geometry of the ancient Greeks. They thought the axioms and postulates of Euclidean geometry were self-evident. They were wrong. Mathematicians no longer recognize "self-evidence" as a path to truth or an allowable form of argumentation. As to the spreading lies that have already been exposed and debunked...that's also frowned upon by those who value truth and reasoned argument. You're a BIG FUCKING FAIL! Oh, and "skinnedness"...it's not a word. Sheesh...what a low-brow!!

My lowbrow gramatics aside, I notice you failed to comment and/or defend the proposed legislation. It seems like there is a big problem with their culture when they propose legislation endorsing necrophlia.

Usually when my opponent in an argument starts becoming hysterical, I can tell I'm winning the argument.
"they want to rape women with transvaginal ultrasound probes!!" WTF???

I think since you don't have a vagina that you would be safe.

It is interesting that you quote the ancient greeks, but try to win you arguments with emotion and name calling rather than logic. If someone gets the better of me in a discussion I'll admit it; I won't resort to childish, emotional name calling.

[Prospero]

Mild Cigar - nothing in Islam endorses necrophilia. This is a racist libel and a lie - invented by someone and then reported in low brow tabloid newspapers. I pointed out to you that a clear and learned refutation of this has been posted in another thread and yet you persist on publishing this racist filth. What is with you? It's nothing to do with liberal thin skins buddy. it is to do with inflammatory lies by people like you. There is much that is arguably unnacceptable about some Islamic beleifs and practices - which run counter to our Western values - and intelligent people can debate this. But to repeatedly publish something which is just untrue. It is akin to the blood libel about the Jews. Or do you believe that too?

[trish]

My lowbrow gramatics aside, I notice you failed to comment and/or defend the proposed legislation.

You simply missed it in your hurry to respond. I'll repeat it: As to the spreading lies that have already been exposed and debunked...that's also frowned upon by those who value truth and reasoned argument. Islam does not preach necrophilia. Please notice that pointing out lies is a logical rebuttal and is not the same as name-calling. Moreover, I pointed out that simply claiming a proposition to be "self-evident" is not a valid form of argument. Attempting to make you aware of this new development in logic (dating back to the ancient Greek geometers) is not being hysterical, in fact it is quite logical. Pointing where you FAIL is simply what a responsible rebuttal to your post required.

[mildcigar_2001]

Mild Cigar - nothing in Islam endorses necrophilia. This is a racist libel and a lie - invented by someone and then reported in low brow tabloid newspapers. I pointed out to you that a clear and learned refutation of this has been posted in another thread and yet you persist on publishing this racist filth. What is with you? It's nothing to do with liberal thin skins buddy. it is to do with inflammatory lies by people like you. There is much that is arguably unnacceptable about some Islamic beleifs and practices - which run counter to our Western values - and intelligent people can debate this. But to repeatedly publish something which is just untrue. It is akin to the blood libel about the Jews. Or do you believe that too?

Please feel free comment on the merits of the practice of female circumcision (the practice seems rampent within some Muslim communities). I suppose this is also just propaganda from us infidels.

[giovanni_hotel]

Female circumcision is a cultural practice, not a religious one.

[SammiValentine]

thank god for hung angels so i can brush up on my knowledge of the ottoman empire, WW1, necrophilia and the american political system.

[trish]

Hungangels, the one stop internet forum that meets ALL your needs. (All clients are advised sit down and brace themselves before viewing or reading; and please wash your before and after masturbating.)

[Stavros]

Returning to the point of this thread, I think an issue that should be discussed is what happens to a person when they spend a year in solitary confinement. The potential psychological damage, particularly when someone has not been found guilty at trial and sentenced accordingly, could be long-lasting, even permanent, but I don't know how tough mentally CeCe is. CeCe cannot be the first transgendered person to enter the system, it surprises me that they haven't got a policy on it, or do most transgendered people who enter the system go into the men's section?

[mildcigar_2001]

Returning to the point of this thread, I think an issue that should be discussed is what happens to a person when they spend a year in solitary confinement. The potential psychological damage, particularly when someone has not been found guilty at trial and sentenced accordingly, could be long-lasting, even permanent, but I don't know how tough mentally CeCe is. CeCe cannot be the first transgendered person to enter the system, it surprises me that they haven't got a policy on it, or do most transgendered people who enter the system go into the men's section?

Unless the jail has more than one TS at a time, I not sure how solitary confinement is avoided. Assuming that the TS in question still has her male genitalia then housing the TS with the women prisioners doesn't work. Also placing her in with the guys would be like throwing chum in the water and stirring up the Sharks. I will reiterate that her defense counsel must be putting in continuance motions or her 6th ammendment right to a speedy trial will have been violated.