Shocking new video from Sarina Valentina!!

[LibertyHarkness]

there are other options to enhancing the shape/body that many girls use not just liquid silicone ..

PMMA is a form that is used more in brazil now ,, again its not fda approved in teh uk/usa but its alot safer than generic silicone.. its legal in brazil if using newplastic ..

Brazzilian Butt Lift with Fat Transfer - well says it all really .. if your not fat your fucked with this one as you have nothing to move/migrate ..but its popular (but it is the only injection based substance that wont be rejected by your body)

Buttock Implants - now tehse are the tried and tested method unfortunately you get what you pay for with them ... there is only a select few surgeons that really specialise in the this filed and actually use the correct silicone implants/shape them to the contors of the body and use correct placement ...I have seen some females that have outstanding bottoms from the use of these .. plus side of implants is simply if someone goes wrong they can be removed easily enough ..

Macrolane Injections - now macrolane is supposedly the filler of the future its 100% biodegradable into the human body and doesnt hurt us ... it is FDA approved in uk and europe not sure about usa yet ..but its biggest problem is simply that the results dont seem to last much more than 6-12months then you have to have it done again .. so imagine the cost on these each year for top ups ....

As Macreach said hormones will shape us abit but only to a degree and obviously the younger you start the better .. myself i am 34 started in august 2008 on my hormones and its taken me this long to put weight on, start curving out slighty and my ass is relatively still flat as an ironboard lol Out of all the procedures the only one i would consider is buttock implants simply as the safety element of being able to take them out ..

You also forget the other issues of hormones macshreach .. liver damge, mood swings, increased risk to blood clotting etc .

I wish sarina all the best she seems a nice girl sure with time she can deal with this accordingly .. fair play for her honesty about it .

[MacShreach]

Fat transfers are used in reconstructive surgery for women who have had mastectomies; however they are not at all a sure fix and there are plenty of horror stories. I would say that technique was experimental and to be approached with great care.

As you say there are risks from hormones which also include cancer (oestrogen is implicated in breast cancer, for example) but nevertheless, when prescribed by an endocrinologist who is experienced with transition, and who will be monitoring the blood regularly, these are much less than the risks posed by silicone, which by the way can also cause thromboses, granulomas, and auto-immune reactions.

The whole process of transition presents risk, but I think it would be a fine thing if more people managed these risks in an informed manner--you've obviously done this but it's by no means the rule.

[maddygirl]

I think one of the main problems is that there aren't really other options if you have a masculine shaped body and want curvy hips. They have buttocks implants (which often look fake), but they don't have any type of natural-looking way to get bigger, curvier hips. It really is a shame that she's going through this, I hope she has a safe recovery. Another thing; yes this type of procedure is very risky and can affect your health, but we all feel differently about our bodies and some of us (including myself) are more interested in having curvy bodies than big breasts, for example. I don't think it's right that some of you are judging her and others who just want to feel comfortable in the body they're in, even if it means undergoing a risky procedure. For example, I'd much rather have fuller hips than big breasts, and I completely understand why girls would want to do this sort of thing, and I don't agree with some of you calling them "stupid." You don't want people to judge you, so don't judge others. But, it makes me sick that some of these fake doctors are so careless about others and so money hungry that they'll inject girls with random, toxic substances and then lie to the girls about it, making them think they'll be perfectly fine when in fact they could be dying at that very moment. Hopefully they'll come out with a safer way to enhance, so we don't have to jeopardize our health.

[Nikka]

how old is Sarina?, in her last Jay sin something video I saw something I didn't like

[maddygirl]

how old is Sarina?, in her last Jay sin something video I saw something I didn't like

I think she's 25?

[Nikka]

I think she's 25?

it's ok I thought she was younger

[karaalextv]

there are other options to enhancing the shape/body that many girls use not just liquid silicone ..

PMMA is a form that is used more in brazil now ,, again its not fda approved in teh uk/usa but its alot safer than generic silicone.. its legal in brazil if using newplastic ..

Brazzilian Butt Lift with Fat Transfer - well says it all really .. if your not fat your fucked with this one as you have nothing to move/migrate ..but its popular (but it is the only injection based substance that wont be rejected by your body)

Buttock Implants - now tehse are the tried and tested method unfortunately you get what you pay for with them ... there is only a select few surgeons that really specialise in the this filed and actually use the correct silicone implants/shape them to the contors of the body and use correct placement ...I have seen some females that have outstanding bottoms from the use of these .. plus side of implants is simply if someone goes wrong they can be removed easily enough ..

Macrolane Injections - now macrolane is supposedly the filler of the future its 100% biodegradable into the human body and doesnt hurt us ... it is FDA approved in uk and europe not sure about usa yet ..but its biggest problem is simply that the results dont seem to last much more than 6-12months then you have to have it done again .. so imagine the cost on these each year for top ups ....

As Macreach said hormones will shape us abit but only to a degree and obviously the younger you start the better .. myself i am 34 started in august 2008 on my hormones and its taken me this long to put weight on, start curving out slighty and my ass is relatively still flat as an ironboard lol Out of all the procedures the only one i would consider is buttock implants simply as the safety element of being able to take them out ..

You also forget the other issues of hormones macshreach .. liver damge, mood swings, increased risk to blood clotting etc .

I wish sarina all the best she seems a nice girl sure with time she can deal with this accordingly .. fair play for her honesty about it .

"it is FDA approved in uk and europe not sure about use yet"

When did the FDA start approving things for the UK and europe???

[Prospero]

Bloody tragic for this poor girl. Huge sympathy to you Sarina. Very brave to post this - but braver still to be going through it.

[Tyler___Durden]

Maybe some of the ladies can answer this, but I've been reading about fat transfer, where they use your own fat from one place in the body to inject in places where you want a rounder look. Is that the safer alternative to sil? I know that some of the fat may be absorbed so it might require multiple procedures to get the desired look. So is it simply a matter of money, where fat transfer is more expensive, or is it that fat transfer just doesn't work compared to direct silicone injections?

Sooos, a GG friend just paid to have her PIP breast implants replaced.
On later examination, it transpired the implants were seeping. The silicone migrates to the major organs. Same for direct silicone injections. Long term health implications are not known but immediate side effects are:
Redness, Heat, Pain, rippling,
all of which my friend has experienced and documented history with her GP,
prior to the PIP scandal becoming public knowledge in the uk.
As to costs of fixing the problem:
As we have all said, we DO NOT think that the NHS should incur any cost other than in the case of their own patients. As to 'Buyer beware' ...Most private clinics used in this country were "reputable"
While this applies to dodgy breast implants, silicone freely moving through the body is relevant to this thread.

Fat transfer: A % gets reabsorbed, the amount dependent upon the body are being treated. Surgeons 'overfill' to allow for this.
A friend had fat body sculpting in her bum, stomach area. It was a re-sculpting to adjust results from surgery 6 months earlier. {And her PIP implants replaced at the same time.}
It's a lot less risky than silicone as the product is your body rather than an alien non-degradable that potentially migrates throughout the body.
But fat sculpting has risks which don't get talked about.
It's not been assigned to the fat sculpting procedure she had just undergone,
but my friend had a heart attack in post op and died.

RIP Maria. xxx

[Tyler___Durden]

I see where you are coming from. I don't know how the UK works, but in the US, we have something called the FDA which regulates and lets us know if certain products should be OK to use. If the breast implants were approved to be OK to use and sold to the public with an FDA approval on them, then if we had socialized health care, I think it would be the governments responsibility to take care of the people who trusted in the FDA to tell them its safe to use when they turn out to be harmful. If the UK has anything like the FDA and approved the implants to be OK to use, they should be taking care of those people who trusted in the government to give a seal of approval on a product.

Good point. In the uk stuff is regulated and products have to pass stringent tests BSi kite mark
However the abortion called the EU European union fucks us all over. Specifically there is a continent wide agreement on standards so if approved by the government regulator in one country its automatically cleared as ok in all 27 euro countries-----called free trade.
Ok so far?
Right. The PIP company owner bribed the TU inspectors to hide the fact he was using silicone for furniture {not safe for human bodies}
The fake checks were never examined by any regulatory body in any of the other countries as thats against the rules.
Result: The public get fucked over, my friend Sooox had dodgy breast implants and got sick.
The commissioners who run the EU need to be hung from lampposts,
like the Italians did with Mussolini
You lot should nuke Brussels.