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[allurstouse]

What I stated is not a view it's scientific...

It's better to have some sort of foothold than to make up your own unprofessional labels, this is why any people here are confused...

There is nothing wrong with sexuality..

But to say gender is a sexuality is not a fact... And and it is a scientific fact. Proven... No matter how much some like to change that, what comes up comes down... It's the truth deal with it.

actually I was agreeing with you lol. I am familar with the difference between sexuality and gender because i was curious enough to learn and challenge my assumptions.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Gee Kelly that are some awefull generalisations you are making...

Anyway....i dont recognise myself in it at all....except for maybe that you are right my pasts haunts me...but in a good way...or maybe bad who can tell...anyway i am not lusting for power over men...or feeding my ego etc...
I guess i lost a lot of that ego long ago...
I am not proud of my looks...i know looks are superficial...
When i lived as a boy i was the same person on the inside...so if anyone gives me a compliment...it falls back into the history...its not "received" i cant catch compliments easely coZ always in the back of my head are the menories of how i was treated before...

I find no pleasure in insulting men....i just want the one im with to be respectfull towards my femininity....

Also im very sensitive...so all that ego talk and fighting is really not for me...but i know how to defend myself.

It would only generalizing if I said ALL or every last one of us..

I am saying it's common for transsexuals in the adult world to feel or act this way..

Many do...many are right now..many will continue acting this way...

And girls that keep denying this..drive me nuts..

"Oh I don't do that.."

Well no one said you did that, but many do..

and for you to act like it doesn't go on..

is like acting like the Holocaust never happened...

[EvonRose]

actually I was agreeing with you lol. I am familar with the difference between sexuality and gender because i was curious enough to learn and challenge my assumptions.

Oh yeah i know, i was backhanding the guys we are talking about.. hehe

[KittyPride]

It would only generalizing if I said ALL or every last one of us..

I am saying it's common for transsexuals in the adult world to feel or act this way..

Many do...many are right now..many will continue acting this way...

And girls that keep denying this..drive me nuts..

"Oh I don't do that.."

Well no one said you did that, but many do..

and for you to act like it doesn't go on..

is like acting like the Holocaust never happened...

You call that a holocaust?
Well I think a lot of Tgirls deserve chasers because of their masculine behavior... and a lot of chasers deserve those Tgirls coz they are after transwoman that are half men anyway...

I know a lot of transwoman dont live in reality...
Ive talked to some that claimed they slept with men who did not notice at all they were TS... while I could obviously see it... let alone that men would not sense it...

Also a lot of them are in some sorth of denial that they are TS.
I know a girl that wanted to show her new date to a transgirlfriend of hers... and introduce him as "finally found a guy that isnt a chaser or cockhound" Turned out that he dated with her pre op girlfriend before and he especially like the cock lol
But my girlfriend did not tell her... not to dissapoint her... or betray the guy.

I am totally at ease with guys that have been with TS before... even TV's no problem!!! Its actually a plus cause you know they wont go mental after sex with strange feelings of guilt or go into a sexual identity crisis.

To be honest I really dont like men that do that. lol
I have been able to avoid it... but I think its horrible. happened to a lot of Tgirlfriends of mine. I kept my ears open and listened very carefully to them and tried to make sure it never happened to me.

I was warned for the cockhounds long before I ever dated fortunately lol.
I remember at first being so dissapointed to hear it and even kind of upset. But I had to take this for real.

Good thing that are guys out there that match with me too.

Also you are right about dating heterosexual men. Its not that easy. Especially for him... cause he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the outside world. It actually makes ME feel very bad for those guys.

Its unfair for them also.

[allurstouse]

I am twice as old as some of you and really respect your grasp on your identitys at your age. The conversation in the thread has been pretty introspective and loaded with insight. Most 20 or 25 yr olds don't have a clear sense of themselves as adults. I don't mean gender or even sexuality. I mean your view of your core selves as adults. Most 20 somethings lack that. Maybe it's the introspection your genetic mismatch with gender must of led to? Anyway just a compliment from the fairly ignorant. I thought it worth noting it's a trait that repeats itself over and over in the thread you all share that most 20 somethings don't have and it makes their lives a bit harder.

I actually wish I lived in a bigger city to just meet and get to know some of you. Your life histories, points of view, experiences are mostly not a shared experience for me and without seeming creepy I have learned a lot since I came here. Anyone whose daily life consists of speaking truth to power (society) and standing for that truth http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1592 is imo is worth listening to and getting to know other than sexually

[mathematics1900]

Well duh you have never heard of me, I don't do porn, and I remain under the radar because of my family being in public eye.

Live in a country your whole life, then move to a cold weather.
http://www.ayushveda.com/health/bedwetting.htm

scroll trough emotional and environmental changes....

Take time to educate yourself before sounding dumb.

Your not trying to understand anyone. Actually by me bringing up the bed wetting problem and then you make me feel like it's some bad thing to further my embarrassment only shows me the true intent of you even conversing with me...

And no i will not share my personal hobbies, you want to find something wrong with my hobbies as well? Not gonna happen, totally lost my trust.

Embarrass you, how on earth am I going to embarrass a secure and confident woman like yourself over the internet? I have lived in a hot country my whole life and moved to a cold climate and the bed wetting didn't happen to me, am I dumb because I was uninformed? That is a pretty bold statement coming from someone with constant grammatical errors in every post. You are even too insecure to share your hobbies for fear that I might criticize them? It is your choice whether or not you want to trust people, and it is obvious you have some very deep trust issues. I am trying to understand and even if you refuse to answers questions, I'll simply keep reading your posts until I have gathered enough information so that I can ask even more informed questions. This is going to make you uncomfortable, but that is the only way to grow.

[mathematics1900]

Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos
.....
Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?

Blew my mind.

Kelly, I understand "misery loves company", but that doesn't mean when chasers are "pissing on my back" you can tell me that it's "raining". It's not that simple. I often date VERY REGULAR guys; guys who are mechanics, work as chef's, laborers, etc. I like down to earth guys. Not only are they often in better shape and gorgeous, but THOSE guys actually deserve a chance to be educated. Not the guy looking for any free dick from any gender in any city he finds himself in. Those guys are dogs. They're dogs to GGs, they're dogs to twink boys, and they're dogs to us. Stop protecting them as a blanket policy. It's not as black and white as you're making it sound and you know it. Sure. There are jaded women and jaded transwomen. But are you going to honestly pitch this speech to the guys on HungAngels? lol Where there's a 50/50 chance you're talking to a bunch of dogs and closet cases? lol I know you're not that gullible, Kelly. lol

Now you have beef with dogs and closet cases? Lol, chasers are pissing on your back? Then you drop them, what is the big deal? Why do you get into such a tear about these men, they are individuals, drop them as such. If the guy isn't respecting you and treating you how you want to be treated, then stop talking to him. It is that simple!

[EvonRose]

Embarrass you, how on earth am I going to embarrass a secure and confident woman like yourself over the internet? I have lived in a hot country my whole life and moved to a cold climate and the bed wetting didn't happen to me, am I dumb because I was uninformed? That is a pretty bold statement coming from someone with constant grammatical errors in every post. You are even too insecure to share your hobbies for fear that I might criticize them? It is your choice whether or not you want to trust people, and it is obvious you have some very deep trust issues. I am trying to understand and even if you refuse to answers questions, I'll simply keep reading your posts until I have gathered enough information so that I can ask even more informed questions. This is going to make you uncomfortable, but that is the only way to grow.

Your dumb for speaking against my bed wetting problem as a child without proper knowledge... Obviously I gave you an article about it it's actually not as uncommon you made it seem...

It's a porn forum I don't proof read what I type because i rather type and get it down with, you get my point so what's the issue? Now if we were in school that I happen to be 3.97 GPA... I would proof read it for fear of grading or of I was typing up something important for...

If your only dig at me is the grammatical error, you obviously ran out of things to say... Do better.

[allurstouse]

Your dumb for speaking against my bed wetting problem as a child without proper knowledge... Obviously I gave you an article about it it's actually not as uncommon you made it seem...

It's a porn forum I don't proof read what I type because i rather type and get it down with, you get my point so what's the issue? Now if we were in school that I happen to be 3.97 GPA... I would proof read it for fear of grading or of I was typing up something important for...

If your only dig at me is the grammatical error, you obviously ran out of things to say... Do better.

When the attack is on grammar and punctuation you really don't need to respond. it means you won the argument and someone is just tossing red herrings and trying to create straw men to escape admitting it

[mathematics1900]

Your dumb for speaking against my bed wetting problem as a child without proper knowledge... Obviously I gave you an article about it it's actually not as uncommon you made it seem...

It's a porn forum I don't proof read what I type because i rather type and get it down with, you get my point so what's the issue? Now if we were in school that I happen to be 3.97 GPA... I would proof read it for fear of grading or of I was typing up something important for...

If your only dig at me is the grammatical error, you obviously ran out of things to say... Do better.

A child without proper knowledge? Do you think the majority of the population spends time reading on the extensive amounts of possibilities that would cause bed wetting? You are getting more and more delusional as this progresses. Yes, it is pretty uncommon otherwise you wouldn't of had to inform me about it. Ahhh, a porn forum, where sounding intelligent doesn't matter if you've got tits? I see, I just misunderstood what you're about and now I'm getting a better picture, no worries, we'll get there together Evon.

When the attack is on grammar and punctuation you really don't need to respond. it means you won the argument and someone is just tossing red herrings and trying to create straw men to escape admitting it

Lol, right...it isn't as if someone sounds ridiculous calling me stupid when their literacy is worse than my 10 year old niece.