Men on dating ts women

[KittyPride]

You see having a penis as a handicap, I simply don't, if you saw what I saw, if you could view yourself through my eyes, then you would never speak about yourself in such a way. Also yes, it most certainly should be the pleasure of the guy you are dating, who else is supposed to enjoy your body? It is obvious you don't enjoy having your penis, so you might as well let me enjoy it, don't you agree?

haha no I dont agree.
I am dating a guy that has no interest in my penis and we have a great time together. again... I dont hate my penis...but Im just not able to top you with it... and call me selfish... but I want to be sure to please a men in all his desires... and if I cant grant a desire he has... I will feel bad... and leave...
I want to make someone happy....

If a man treats me like a woman... with respect and sensitivity... if he is a good kisser and cuddles... I get a rock hard penis lol.... so if any man would want to enjoy my penis in any way... they's have to make me feel good as a woman first.

A lot of chasers just cant do that. They tend to somehow still treat us as boys... yes just because we have a penis lol
Just like sociaty did when I was young.

[EvonRose]

Well if you had read what I was saying There is a pressure to have sex right away with men, and yes I have been pressured... He also had promised things before having sex that never fell trough... So I was lied to and tricked, he stated he had emotional feelings etc etc.. all lies...

I'm young you live and learn.

But this is the pressure we get from chasers, and eventually we become so numb to it, that we are so guarded after a few.

Me being in the sex industry has got nothing to do with courtship, I really hate people generalizing that because we are escorts that we know everything in personal relationships.... I know everything about money, and traveling, and hustling.

I'm 21 mind you, I don't think many people here have been with someone at 21 and it lasted....

[EvonRose]

I don't go against such studies, Evon, but one should also not blindly accept such findings. Experts on human sexuality are after all also known to change their mind on things quite often.

Seeing how beautiful you are, I'm sure you have no difficulty attracting hetero men. I'm also sure that you can have a perfectly fine relationship with such a man on a platonic basis. But a man sexually attracted to you is not just interested in your feminine splendor. He will also want to savour that special treasure between your legs, and that at least to some degree would make him bisexual in my book. Not gay but also not strictly hetero.
Same thing applies of course to women who develop a passion for tgirls.

By the way, some studies have also shown that we are all basically bisexual.

Well that study is dumb.... We may be in a way intersex but know many ts that hate men physically and are lesbian...

We are not a sexuality we are a gender....

[Tyler___Durden]

Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.

Un-Gendering at it's best.
Blinks rapidly, then LOL.
Coz you are taking the piss, yes?

sorry lol.. I dont really understand what you mean hehe

You are defining Trans as a separate and permanent 'Other gender'.
I've a friend who identifies thus. And there is a huge historical record (pre-christian) to support the 3rd/Other gender view.

However, almost every Ts woman I know, identifies as female,
regardless of surgery's planned / undergone.
That also applies to all of my Ts friends who Escort / do Porn.
Yes we call ourselves 'transsexuals', 'shemales' 'chicks with dicks' or whatever. But that is only in ads or DVD covers. Outside work, referring to any of us as anything other than female would cause great offence.

My point is that you view appears to me to be at variance with the self-image of most women who have a Transsexual background.
(Not that this invalidates your self identity....though your post struck me as trolling. My apologies if this was not the case. xx)

[mathematics1900]

Thanks for your answer and understanding. Love you for it.
You also asked a good question...
Im sorry if Im hard on you.... dont mean it that way... honest...

Your question: Is a penis what makes a boy? You have a penis, but you obviously are not a boy. So I am curious as to what you think defines someone to be a boy?

Thats a great question for me. Because I was treated and raised as a boy because of my genitals. But I remember thinking as a child I would one day prove them wrong, and I did.

For me being being a TS feels like rape yes. Emotional, physical and psychological. But not every Tgirl feels this way. We are no group actually and there are a lot of difference in genderdysforia.

But to answer your question... No my penis does not make me a boy. But what I do with it does. Thats how I feel it... and believe it to be. I dont hate my penis so much. I even enjoy getting rock hard and can even feel proud because of that. And I have reached my sexual potential... at least almost.
I am a pre op TS feminine bttm. Thats my sexuality... wether its oral or anal... I enjoy the two just as much.
Of course I would like to make love as a real woman with the body of a GG but I am at ease with my cock.

Its my overal looks that I feel more insecure about then my cock. lol
What makes a girl or boy isnt the genitals... Its not the looks even... its the heart and soul... thats what I believe.

At least its true for me.

Well thank you for speaking with me, I don't think you understand how much of a treat this has been! I didn't think you were being hard on me, I just think you aren't quite sure how to take me yet, but I will simply win you over with my actions. I am also positive you are attractive, just like a woman to worry about how they look when you've already got a man who obviously doesn't mind. I definitely understand why you feel the way you do then about your penis, if I could ask you just one more question, lol, since you said you really don't want to top with your own equipment, if the guy compromised with you wearing a strap-on would that still be a total no for you?

haha no I dont agree.
I am dating a guy that has no interest in my penis and we have a great time together. again... I dont hate my penis...but Im just not able to top you with it... and call me selfish... but I want to be sure to please a men in all his desires... and if I cant grant a desire he has... I will feel bad... and leave...
I want to make someone happy....

If a man treats me like a woman... with respect and sensitivity... if he is a good kisser and cuddles... I get a rock hard penis lol.... so if any man would want to enjoy my penis in any way... they's have to make me feel good as a woman first.

A lot of chasers just cant do that. They tend to somehow still treat us as boys... yes just because we have a penis lol
Just like sociaty did when I was young.

Interesting, this is very helpful, especially the kissing and cuddling part because I must say yes, most men would assume that to get a tgirl worked up all they have to do is send a picture of their penis, lol.

[EvonRose]

It seems indeed that you' re not getting it. Where in my post do I point to any particular sexual act?

insinuating a guy who is into me like amy penis as well...

False, when I get my sex change a guy say, falls in love with me... Does that make ads admirer, mind you my below is no longer dangling from my legs...

Hs fantasy now is to pound my pussy till he cums... Generalizing a population of ts admirers just won't work.

[EvonRose]

Uhmmm no we are not handicap...

That's like a black person saying their handicap cause they are black..

Unless you lose a leg or an eye, you are perfectly normal...

[allurstouse]

Sorry being TS is a handicap. Any handicap has its gifts... cause it can make you a better person... be more loving compassionate... even strong mentally (cause you go through a lot)...
But having a handicap isnt a "pleasure" and it should not be the pleasure of the guy you are dating.

So very true. It's not always true though. Some people get ground down by the world because of their differences from the norm some get polished up.

[KittyPride]

You are defining Trans as a separate and permanent 'Other gender'.
I've a friend who identifies thus. And there is a huge historical record (pre-christian) to support the 3rd/Other gender view.

However, almost every Ts woman I know, identifies as female,
regardless of surgery's planned / undergone.
That also applies to all of my Ts friends who Escort / do Porn.
Yes we call ourselves 'transsexuals', 'shemales' 'chicks with dicks' or whatever. But that is only in ads or DVD covers. Outside work, referring to any of us as anything other than female would cause great offence.

My point is that you view appears to me to be at variance with the self-image of most women who have a Transsexual background.
(Not that this invalidates your self identity....though your post struck me as trolling. My apologies if this was not the case. xx)

Hi there I identify as female and I dont think Im any different emotionally and mentally from woman. What has made me different though is that I was not allowed to be myself in my youth... that has changed me... for life...

I dont see myself as being a third gender, I belong to woman.
What I meant with it... that pre op or post op... my situation does not change. I have a transsexual body. And there are people out there that will judge me as such. And will not accept me as they would accept a GG.

Thats what I meant.

[KittyPride]

Uhmmm no we are not handicap...

That's like a black person saying their handicap cause they are black..

Unless you lose a leg or an eye, you are perfectly normal...

This is where we disagree entirely.
Skin color and genderdysforia are not even related in any sense.

Let me tell you it in another way.

I view it as a handicap. I should have been born in the body of a girl. Not a boy.
And it really has hurt me a lot and still hurts me.

You cant change that for me.
There are a lot of different kinds of gender dysforia... please accept the way I experience it.