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[Nicole Dupre]

Damn, Nicole... those are some sweet-ass lens flares.
No lightning bolts, though? Lens flares and lightning bolts are a photoshopper's best friend. lol.

It's not PS. It's Photoscape. I have and use both programs. Photoscape is free and easy to use. I find it practical for quick BS like that.

[Nicole Dupre]

Courting is the step people take before they move on to sleeping with each other. This man wasn't courting you, you were sleeping with him and expecting him to stick around. If you want men to stick around the last thing you should do is sleep with them...

This is just a theory, but you can't move past differences until those differences have been acknowledged. You want to be treated like a genetic girl, but guess what? You aren't a genetic girl, and you are never going to be a genetic girl. That wasn't in your cards, that isn't who you are, you might have the emotional frame, the mindset, and even the soul of a woman, but unfortunately you weren't lucky enough to be born into a woman's body. This is your plight, the cross you'll be carrying until you die.

It is the same non-sense as telling black people they are the same as white people. No they aren't, there are anatomical differences, there are cultural differences, different family structures, and different core values inside the communities. Now how are we ever supposed to move past all these differences if nobody wants to bring them up?

Unfortunately psychology is a very young science, and I think a lot of confusion occurs when the normal turbulence of life gets intermingled with the negative internal dialog most people on this board have been experiencing their entire lives. Who here is really open to change, because I still see the gay community ostracizing the transgender community, the transgender community ostracizing their fanbase (non-100% hetero-men), and the rest of the world confused about how to treat all these groups. Hard to look at the big picture though because each individual is trying to simply find acceptance.

Good post. Let me just point out, personally, I don't see the grass being very much greener or think that SRS is going to change the important stuff. For example, I never got to go to the prom with a boy. I didn't get my period and tits when all the other girls did in 6th and 7th grade. So yeah. Those missing pieces of the socialization process are the cross that the primary TS bears. But the girls who just want the porn and escort life don't particularly give a shit. Some do, But there are LOTS of secondary TS sex workers. I didn't think so 2 years ago even. But now I do. I see the difference now. It's a real one. Secondary transsexuals think more like hetero crossdressers.

[KittyPride]

You're funny. lol Really? Oh, wow. I had no idea. I thought they'd install ovaries and a birth canal too, and that I'd menstruate once a month. *smfh

No shit, Eartha Kitt. I don't want it to change because I believe my internal plumbing will be changed. I want it purely for cosmetic reasons.

Well believe me... Ive seen girls do it.... get SRS and then claim they are no longer transsexual... to return after years to online community's. I dont know how they do it. Personally I never forget I am TS... lol
I dont know how others can forget a thing like that, lol.

If you must know, it's castration that puts me off more than the rest of it. Castration is often what girls say changed their perspective on it the most; that they weren't prepared for it emotionally. I have the tiniest little nuts anyway, but they do seem to still work. lol

Got myself two tiny nuts too with using androcur. But when I stop using androcur... they still work. I dont like the idea of a knife in that area or any area of my body for that matter lol.

As Ashley and my ex so tactfully pointed out, "all you trannys have brown dicks, balls, and assholes". And it's somewhat true if you're on hormones

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God girl you had me checking myself there for a moment lol
What exactly do you mean?? Can you give an example?

eeew?
You saying I need to bleech my penis ? lol
Well... I have noticed that the skin of my penis has become thinner...but I dont think it changed color. Hmmmzzz...Or maybe so gradually I haven't noticed?

[Nicole Dupre]

Well, I have to go to WORK NOW; not spend "my inheritance". Pfffttt. Fucking moron.

I have a good life because I earned it. Keep guessing with your photographer "friend", genius. I love it. lol

[KittyPride]

Those missing pieces of the socialization process are the cross that the primary TS bears. But the girls who just want the porn and escort life don't particularly give a shit. Some do, But there are LOTS of secondary TS sex workers. I didn't think so 2 years ago even. But now I do. I see the difference now. It's a real one. Secondary transsexuals think more like hetero crossdressers.

True... missing out on the socialisation was the worst part for me. It still bothers me each day and has resulted that I feel I dont really belong.
I dont belong with girls (cause I have missed out on a lot of things in life) and I dont belong with boys.
It makes me feel like an outcast... or at the least outsider. And it does hurt me.
I guess I too want to belong.
If I could belong with other Tgirls I'd be happy... but we are so different. I never found a home with them.

I just have 1 good Tgirlfriend... but I like to hang around men... and not talk about girl stuff and TS stuff too much. It depresses me anyway lol.

[Nicole Dupre]

Well believe me... Ive seen girls do it.... get SRS and then claim they are no longer transsexual... to return after years to online community's. I dont know how they do it. Personally I never forget I am TS... lol
I dont know how others can forget a thing like that, lol.

The most sane transsexuals I know are post-ops who are well aware of being TS. lol I fucking love those bitches too. They're much cooler than 95% of the aimless loser M2Fs here. Trust.

[mathematics1900]

The difference is that men expects us to be men...but when they find out we are not interested in fucking them...they run...same goes for a lot of men that just dont date us out of prejudice.
I know i can be a great girlfriend...but since the world thinks of TS as MEN instead of woman...you dont get the chance....and when a guy falls for you...and finds out you are a TS...he has to deal with these prejudices also...he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the world...cause we are considered men...that the difference.

I definitely understand the difference you are referring to, however I don't understand your qualms with fucking your boyfriend. Lots of women say to themselves, "I'm going to fuck the shit out of my man tonight." There are lots of people who perform sexual acts for their partners that they don't particularly enjoy or get turned on by, so why do they do it anyways? Oh yeah, because seeing the person you care for pleasured in itself is a turn on. Why are you so bothered by a man wanting you to fuck him, would it be different if you had the surgery and he asked you to fuck him with a strap-on?

There are lots of people who hold prejudices in this world, and in my personal opinion sexuality can never be an identity. That is another problem, "heterosexual identity" what does that even mean? Is everything I am, and what my core beliefs are have anything to do with my sexual appetite or tastes? I don't think sexuality has anything to do with identity and if you can begin to separate the two you might find yourself letting more people into your life that you previously thought were unworthy.

Good post. Let me just point out, personally, I don't see the grass being very much greener or think that SRS is going to change the important stuff. For example, I never got to go to the prom with a boy. I didn't get my period and tits when all the other girls did in 6th and 7th grade. So yeah. Those missing pieces of the socialization process are the cross that the primary TS bears. But the girls who just want the porn and escort life don't particularly give a shit. Some do, But there are LOTS of secondary TS sex workers. I didn't think so 2 years ago even. But now I do. I see the difference now. It's a real one. Secondary transsexuals think more like hetero crossdressers.

I agree completely, multiple distinctions can be made in almost all areas of human personality, behavior, and motivations. It is just easier to stereotype though, as human beings it makes it much simpler to talk about large conceptual ideas when you generalize and stereotype. However most people just forget that this process doesn't apply to everyone, we are all individuals and we all have our own filters and life experiences. I am just curious to when the gay community and transgender community can reconcile and start setting a better example of what it means to be open minded and accepting of others. Otherwise how is anyone ever going to treat the community with respect when we can't even respect each other?

[KittyPride]

There are lots of people who perform sexual acts for their partners that they don't particularly enjoy or get turned on by, so why do they do it anyways? Oh yeah, because seeing the person you care for pleasured in itself is a turn on. Why are you so bothered by a man wanting you to fuck him, would it be different if you had the surgery and he asked you to fuck him with a strap-on?

You make me sound like a bad person.
Cant you, just for a little bit... and for a moment... try to put yourself in my position? Do you think Im happy that I was born in a male body? Do you think I need any emotional reassurance that I have been born male?
When I still lived as a boy I never topped and did not let anyone near my penis.
Now that I live as a woman I am more relaxed with it...
Its a giant step for me that I am open to someone (a lover) touching it... and even give me oral sex.... I would let a lover do that if it pleased him.

Im not a bad person. If I love another Im not selfish. Of course I want to please a man. But why cant you respect that some girls who feel like woman just cant do it? I would not be able to stay hard... the idea of having to top just makes me feel sick....It feels very masculine to me... and makes me feel bad about being TS even more.

Its not because im selfish or delusional. Sure... I know there are guys out there that like to receive anal sex. Good for them. But why do you insist on me doing it?? Just because I was born in a body that did not match my soul... does not mean I was born to serve men with a lust for receiving anal sex.

I think it is selfish of a lot of T lovers to think that once we have a cock... they think it feels the same for us... and that we can do the same things with it.

On hormones a cock feels totally different....my whole sexuality has changed a lot! Its not the same.

You are so insensitive to judge us girls the way you do.

[catherinefan]

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

I don't go against such studies, Evon, but one should also not blindly accept such findings. Experts on human sexuality are after all also known to change their mind on things quite often.

Seeing how beautiful you are, I'm sure you have no difficulty attracting hetero men. I'm also sure that you can have a perfectly fine relationship with such a man on a platonic basis. But a man sexually attracted to you is not just interested in your feminine splendor. He will also want to savour that special treasure between your legs, and that at least to some degree would make him bisexual in my book. Not gay but also not strictly hetero.
Same thing applies of course to women who develop a passion for tgirls.

By the way, some studies have also shown that we are all basically bisexual.

[KittyPride]

I don't go against such studies, Evon, but one should also not blindly accept such findings. Experts on human sexuality are after all also known to change their mind on things quite often.

Seeing how beautiful you are, I'm sure you have no difficulty attracting hetero men. I'm also sure that you can have a perfectly fine relationship with such a man on a platonic basis. But a man sexually attracted to you is not just interested in your feminine splendor. He will also want to savour that special treasure between your legs, and that at least to some degree would make him bisexual in my book. Not gay but also not strictly hetero.
Same thing applies of course to women who develop a passion for tgirls.

By the way, some studies have also shown that we are all basically bisexual.

I dont really get it.
A lot of guys here insist they are straight but like to take it up the ass etc...
But when a Tgirl is fucked in the ass it must at least be bisexual lol.

A lot of men want to fuck their GGirlfriend in the ass. Its not necessarily a bisexual thing. To fuck a Tgirl in the ass... might be bisexual. But as long as the men has no interest for cock... and does not touch it etc...and is only interested in anal penetration that comes way closer in my view to being straight...
then a man that insist he only likes woman but wants to be fucked by an actual penis!!!!