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[GrimFusion]

Damn, Nicole... those are some sweet-ass lens flares.
No lightning bolts, though? Lens flares and lightning bolts are a photoshopper's best friend. lol.

[mathematics1900]

Wow, literally read this entire thread and I learned quite a bit. Kelly Shore, I have always been a long time admirer of your physical body, and never would of imagined before reading your numerous posts that you would possess such insight and intuition about people. I agree with basically everything you've said, you are truly an enlightened individual.

Evon, I've read a lot of what you've said and I have thought long and hard about your particular stances, and this story says it best:

"I recently dated a guy in Miami who I felt was a chaser, but I gave him the benefit until I started seeing the signs...he never had time to take me out. Only time he had was to see me in my place for sex. And when we did [HAVE SEX] he would leave as oppose to staying with me for the night or courting.

Courting is the step people take before they move on to sleeping with each other. This man wasn't courting you, you were sleeping with him and expecting him to stick around. If you want men to stick around the last thing you should do is sleep with them...

This was very unhealthy and I don't like men like that. I am too good, to be handled so carelessly, and I deserve better, he used me and he lied to me...Straight men don't treat me this way, they take me out for dinner, or wine, or movies... But I never feel comfortable with a chaser...But regardless we risk it giving a guy a chance, and it's the guys chance to prove himself worthy. If not we are the only ones who get hurt by it. So we have to protect that.

Of course it was unhealthy, but not in the way you believe. It was unhealthy because your expectations for the relationship are unrealistic. I just don't understand how you can be a working girl and be so naive to the true behaviors of men?

This is just a theory, but you can't move past differences until those differences have been acknowledged. You want to be treated like a genetic girl, but guess what? You aren't a genetic girl, and you are never going to be a genetic girl. That wasn't in your cards, that isn't who you are, you might have the emotional frame, the mindset, and even the soul of a woman, but unfortunately you weren't lucky enough to be born into a woman's body. This is your plight, the cross you'll be carrying until you die.

It is the same non-sense as telling black people they are the same as white people. No they aren't, there are anatomical differences, there are cultural differences, different family structures, and different core values inside the communities. Now how are we ever supposed to move past all these differences if nobody wants to bring them up?

Unfortunately psychology is a very young science, and I think a lot of confusion occurs when the normal turbulence of life gets intermingled with the negative internal dialog most people on this board have been experiencing their entire lives. Who here is really open to change, because I still see the gay community ostracizing the transgender community, the transgender community ostracizing their fanbase (non-100% hetero-men), and the rest of the world confused about how to treat all these groups. Hard to look at the big picture though because each individual is trying to simply find acceptance. So after all this, the long spiel, what I was really trying to say Evon, about what your problem is and why you have the attitude you do...you're just lonely.

[KittyPride]

I'm not sure I'm getting SRS either. It's something I used to want badly. We'll see. But I have a feeling it will happen in about 2 years. I'm gonna start doing the psych testing by next fall, just to see.

Why would you...if you can live with the fact that you are build differently...and if you can enjoy it...i would not do it...but im no expert on anyone's feelings or life...

Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.

[KittyPride]

Not really? I mean, are you equating contempt with mistrust? I'd imagine by the time dude's get familiar enough to date, any real sense of contempt for men would be gone. Contempt would make transwomen not want to date men in the first place. I'd say there's a genuine mistrust when anybody gets mistreated in relationship after relationship, and it simply becomes assumed that anybody new will resort to the same behaviors exhibited in past relationships. That's a problem dating anyone. It's a little more prolific in trans communities, but I'd figure that's mostly due to the kind of men who end up mistreating transwomen anyway. Vicious cycle shit, ya dig? Bitches like bad dudes, and all that other cliche crap.


Artificial superiority complex? How else are you going to mentally separate from public misunderstanding? If you can't change someone's confused opinions and you can't walk away, it's way easier just to think you're better than them. Even though it sounds backward, it's more mature than endlessly bickering with dudes.


It's a porn term. It's like calling an escort a prostitute. It's practically the same thing, but it sounds more insulting. Sadly, half the dudes that refer to transwomen as shemales don't know it's insulting. The other half are purposefully goating. Tripping out on them is easier than determining which one is which and attempting to educate. Then again, this is a porn forum. Do we really need transwomen jumping from thread to thread and explaining why posts are insulting? Fuck that. Shit takes too much time.


Reality check. You've never felt like that? I figure you have and you matured past it by experience. Everybody has fantasies, even if they aren't necessarily sexual. Eventually most of the girls get it, so the issue works itself out.


We're totally sluts. I'm such a slut, I've been sleeping with the same woman for the last five years. She calls it a serious relationship, but I'm just in it for the boring and predictable sex. lol. Dudes that aren't sluts still get called chasers. That's not the reason dudes get called chasers in the first place. Dudes that just want the dick are chasers. Dudes that can't be seen in public kissing other dudes but have a perma-woody for anything in a dress with a bulge... that's a chaser. Guys who run game like they're interested, but hit&quit, then move on... that's a chaser. Unfortunately, the same term ends up getting applied to just about any dude in any kind of non-favorable situation.

Maybe, but what's the alternative? "We've been dating for four months, but it's totally okay that you haven't introduced me to anybody you know, honey". That's a bad sign. To any dude in a month-long relationship, hearing "You haven't introduced me to your mother yet!" is also a bad sign. Is that a valid generalization to make about the majority of transwomen? Fuck if I know, I just haven't heard of anything like that happening.



It's tit for tat, and a little more tit than tat when tempers flare. People eventually realize they're being over-scrutinizing or biased and they mature. If they don't, they end up friendless and alone. Fuck'em.

Nice post Grim!

[pimpdog]

About the guys not sticking around, alot of girls look ALOT less passable after a guy cums, just the honest truth.

[yosi]

I prefer a boyfriend in every city...

you are a men chaser

[KittyPride]

This is just a theory, but you can't move past differences until those differences have been acknowledged. You want to be treated like a genetic girl, but guess what? You aren't a genetic girl, and you are never going to be a genetic girl. That wasn't in your cards, that isn't who you are, you might have the emotional frame, the mindset, and even the soul of a woman, but unfortunately you weren't lucky enough to be born into a woman's body. This is your plight, the cross you'll be carrying until you die.

The difference is that men expects us to be men...but when they find out we are not interested in fucking them...they run...same goes for a lot of men that just dont date us out of prejudice.
I know i can be a great girlfriend...but since the world thinks of TS as MEN instead of woman...you dont get the chance....and when a guy falls for you...and finds out you are a TS...he has to deal with these prejudices also...he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the world...cause we are considered men...that the difference.

[KittyPride]

I did not have my friends and family say that i am any different from a girl...not even my boyfriend...nor anyone i meet at work or on the streets...
Just the fact that i was born a TS makes me a man to a lot of prejudiced people...and thats the shit we deal with...

[GrimFusion]

About the guys not sticking around, alot of girls look ALOT less passable after a guy cums, just the honest truth.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You best be trollin', sucka. That's fuckin' funny, though in a creepy, disrespectful way I just couldn't imagine myself 'getting behind'.

[Nicole Dupre]

Why would you...if you can live with the fact that you are build differently...and if you can enjoy it...i would not do it...but im no expert on anyone's feelings or life...

Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.

You're funny. lol Really? Oh, wow. I had no idea. I thought they'd install ovaries and a birth canal too, and that I'd menstruate once a month. *smfh

No shit, Eartha Kitt. I don't want it to change because I believe my internal plumbing will be changed. I want it purely for cosmetic reasons. If you must know, it's castration that puts me off more than the rest of it. Castration is often what girls say changed their perspective on it the most; that they weren't prepared for it emotionally. I have the tiniest little nuts anyway, but they do seem to still work. lol As Ashley and my ex so tactfully pointed out, "all you trannys have brown dicks, balls, and assholes". And it's somewhat true if you're on hormones. I actually see it in LOTS of photos here. If I remember correctly, Domino and Hazel Tucker have it too.I forget what they call it, but it's from hormones. It's just the pigmentation of the skin. It's nothing a doctor's going to get alarmed over, but I'm not especially fond of it either. So they can jam the whole thing inside me and shape it into a cunt for all I care anyway. lol I think cocks on any chick look fucking GROSS TBH....

(Countdown to some dick-thirsty loser disagreeing with me. lol)