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    Quote Originally Posted by EvonRose View Post
    Allysa, it doesn't matter wether your an escort or not do not think for once it's just the guys that call you, Its a dumb thing to say that it was partly your mistake. These kind of men lurk not just on our ad, but on all form of online sites, dating, clubs, bars etc... He has not lived our lifestyle so he goes of on what he perceives and it's wrong in many levels..

    When your young and people are everywhere trying to take advantage of you sometimes you fall for it.

    These men don't know what it's like starting at 16 in this industry with a shy and meek personality, not to mention gullible and naive. These type of men prey on that weakness, No one is to blame but the men, when they contact you trough your ad knowing your an escort they have a braincell to realize you charge, and shouldn't expect anything. So it's their fault for taking advantage of that.
    Thanks girl yes now im more stronger and more careful in meeting this type of guys. If you want to date or make friends with me Ill make sure its a date or make friends type of meet up. No touching allowed unless i find them hot and yummy lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by tsadriana View Post
    Lets just say that outhere are quality men but the most percentage is the quantity ones ,thats why is hard to beleve most of them.
    Agree so hard to believe most of them. I dont know the need to lie, just for the purpose of meet up! Grrrr!



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    Then there is the where do you meet people? Club life at some point starts to look unattractive. Once I hit 40 things like theatre and dining out and museums had much more appeal than clubbing. Where do you meet people at that point? I had a couple escort experiences and decided i don't think it's for me. I'd rather have a real emotional connection than the illusion of one any day and in the abscence of real would prefer to remain in reality. I also think it's silly to think any guy attracted to the physical form of someone pre op doesnt have some measure of blended sexuality. So what? Who cares imo society has so many sexual hang ups it's the real root of all the nuerosis talked about in the thread. Sex acts don't create identity
    beyond the most superficial levels. Charactor, compassion, empathy, acceptance have nothing to do with the physical. i've been mostly out of commited relationships since I got divorced. I did quite a bit of sexual exploration afterwards as well. I really just feel sorry for those of you hung up on labels with sexuality or conflicted about what people would say if they "fill in the neurosis". Wanting things black and white when they aren't is just an invitation for internal conflict. I'd rather have my skin fit and be judged than to pretend that my attraction to transgendered woman is entirely rooted in my predominant heterosexuality. Anyway maybe I'll bump into someone at the corner deli tommorow...who knows?

    I think it's a shame anyone would have issue with saying he finds you women attractive or taking you out. I'd tell anyone who asked me " On my continueing journey of self discovery i found I had a deep attraction to transgendered women." i mean so what be Popeye and enjoy life or be afraid and cheat yourself. The attraction isn't the fetish thing either that's being attacted to an object not a type of person being one I am open to....I did meet someone pretty damn mean who was transgendered she reminded me of my wife. The unattractiveness was her behavior she was stunning to look at. I just don't do mean. I treat people right and have no use for anyone who doesn't.



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    I really appreciate guys who are honest to say to me that they really want to meet and fuck me but they dont have money. Its good for me as long as i find them hot and yummy ill fuck them lol

    But the guys who will tell they want date or make friends just to get a freebie sex and I dont feel they are serious for a date or friendship! Ewwww total waste!



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    Quote Originally Posted by amberskyi View Post
    I have always said that if a guy doesn't want to date a girl for no other reason than the fact that she is a ts than he is a chaser.
    I don't care about a guys past, what I do care about is if he sees me as a person or as an experience/fantasy
    Uh...It should not be "wrong" that a man knows that he likes transsexuals or prefers transsexuals over genetic women or men as men. It is extremely important to understand that so many people fall somewhere between the rigid orientation markers of:

    Gay 100% 90% 80% 70% 60% 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0%
    0 % 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Straight

    There are loads of guys that can't mentally do the math on their sexuality for years and years of their lives; look at the number of guys that come to this forum and ask " I like transsexuals, does that make me (100%) gay?

    The answer? No. Liking or being attracted to transsexuals alone does not make you gay.

    Our society often preaches these absolute ideas that don't hold up during intellectual dissection and rational discussion. It is mostly a very puritanical idea that people are born ( God created) 100% and ANYTHING else is the trickery of Satan or the wrath of God ( how ironic?) for not truly loving God in ones own heart. I don't want to go very deep into this particular part but the horrifying number of gay people that have killed themselves after exhausting every method to de-gay themselves says it all.

    In closing on this subject it shouldn't be freaky, creepy, concerning, disturbing, gross, perverse etc for someone to like you Amber ( or you Evon) for being the transexual ladies that you are. The man or men that admit this to themselves and to you might actually be more deeply attuned to what they need most in a romantic partnership. This might actually be the first step towards a quality relationship from a man to you, this information should not be a deal-breaker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EvonRose View Post
    That's very ignorant to say. Just because I work it doesn't mean I don't go out and try to live a normal life.

    It's not that I'm disregarding Kelly, However there is another side that you guys refuse to want to see.
    maybe you didn't realize it, but you did. your first response to this thread was that as follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by EvonRose View Post
    If a man truly wants to be in a relationship with me, he would have no problem taking me out, having a blast with me and at the end of the night have no sex, men who want sex at the begging want freebies. If that;s the case I might as well charge.
    the point you missed is that a lot of men do indeed expect sex on the first date- has nothing to do with you being transsexual.

    Quote Originally Posted by alyssaluxor View Post
    AGREE!!!

    If we are escort it doesnt mean in our normal life we are also escort

    In my normal life im not an escort just that simple

    Escorting is just a job
    maybe you don't understand occupational hazard, but most people don't just turn off being what they are simply because "they're no longer on the clock".

    Quote Originally Posted by EvonRose View Post
    These men don't know what it's like starting at 16 in this industry with a shy and meek personality, not to mention gullible and naive. These type of men prey on that weakness, No one is to blame but the men, when they contact you trough your ad knowing your an escort they have a braincell to realize you charge, and shouldn't expect anything. So it's their fault for taking advantage of that.
    i could say the same thing for myself and list my background- but that's not how conversations work. i won't bother addressing the latter half of your reply


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    No I never said to Kelly that i disagree with her, at some point she is right, many ts are jaded and chipped shoulders. however my insight is of a woman who is just careful and that point was missed.

    But we are talking in terms of the regards of tranny chasers, not about men who expect sex not he first date, its about the regard to transexuals. or how they go about it that classify them to me a tranny chaser. I don't miss points.

    Being an escort does make one incapable of emotion, or a love life. So the totality of what your saying is false.

    This is experiences I have gathered and majority of ts women about tranny chasers, I have not said all men, or even mentioned straight men so I really don't know where your coming from...

    kelly was talking about tranny chasers, so what topic are we speaking off on. I am on subject, where did you go? Your assumption of a lifestyle you don't live is destined for a mistake, you just can't state something that is false.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesoul View Post
    maybe you didn't realize it, but you did. your first response to this thread was that as follows:



    the point you missed is that a lot of men do indeed expect sex on the first date- has nothing to do with you being transsexual.



    maybe you don't understand occupational hazard, but most people don't just turn off being what they are simply because "they're no longer on the clock".

    also it's just silly to say that i'll never understand because i've never been a ts escort. i could say you'll never understand how straight men think since you've never been one, but that's not how conversations work and will eventually get us nowhere.

    is this for real? in Asia most dates doesnt have sex on first date. even on the 2nd or 3rd. usually can only have sex here if your bf-gf already

    the process of dating and courting a girl here is kinda tedious



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    Great post Kelly, thank you! I happen to be a trans-attracted man. I've been in a couple of reelationships (3yrs and 8yrs). I've heard the "Oh, you date trans-women. I want a man that hasn't or doesnt date trans-women". WTF! So you would rather be with a man who has no idea on what issues he may have nor what his family and friends would say. These same misguided fools then wonder why thoes guy's have issues and can't handle it. SMH!



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    Quote Originally Posted by alyssaluxor View Post
    is this for real? in Asia most dates doesnt have sex on first date. even on the 2nd or 3rd. usually can only have sex here if your bf-gf already

    the process of dating and courting a girl here is kinda tedious
    This is something culturally very western, Allysa. Men here are stuck on those ways and forget life outside other countries, what do expect from a culture who's divorce rate is 50 percent...



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